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Re: Getting started in shaper tooling #shapertools


 

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Interesting -- I had the same experience. I had to pay a small import fee (i.e. $75) of approximate $1200 in tooling from Whitehill UK. ¡­ From memory the US Custom agent stated ¡°The fee could be avoided if the package was broken up and shipped into smaller amounts¡±.. ??My other orders from Germany with similar tooling amounts has had zero challenges from US Customs¡­? Not sure why or reasons ???

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Chris Perren

512-415-6951

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Christopher Edwards
Sent: Monday, May 25, 2020 12:26 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FOG] Getting started in shaper tooling #shapertools

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So far, I have bought all my Shaper tooling from Whitehill in the UK. I live just outside Nashville, TN.

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My last order was for around $1200. I did get a notice, in my mail, to call US Customs when the package arrived here in the USA. It asked me to call the Customs office, I guess to figure out if there would be any import tax duty.

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When I called, they asked me what the items were and how they would be used. I explained, stating they were for home/hobbyist use, ?and they released the package, without any duty fees payable. I had the package a couple of days later.

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Chris Edwards

(407) 902-1358 cell

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On May 25, 2020, at 12:14 PM, Michael Garrison Stuber <mtgstuber@...> wrote:

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Based on this thread I added Whitehill and Royce-Ayr to the sources wiki page (/g/felderownersgroup/wiki/18408)

I know the last time I mentioned the Wiki there was a problem with the permissions.? I believe Brian fixed them so that all members can edit.

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On 5/25/2020 8:14 AM, "jmkserv@... wrote:

In my experience no one is interested in grinding knives for the Universal head as there is no money in it for them unless they are carbide. That substantially?raises the cost. To see the full range of knives that are available for the?universal head either 40mm or 50mm you have to get a Dimar, CMT or similar catalog. For longer run profiles I personally use a triple knife 50mm head from Royce-Ayr. It takes thinner carbide with a back plate. The 3 knives give a beautiful cut in any wood I've tried. The knives and head are also profiled for?hardwood. Not surprising but most generic tooling is profile for softwood.? In these times I prefer to give my money to a company based in NA for tooling, then going overseas. Royce-Ayr,? FS Tools and Leitz are all 45 minutes from me with reps coming to my small shop. Mike has suggested that Whitehill makes tooling for Felder which is remotely possible but I've never heard of tooling coming from anyone except German sources.

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On Mon, May 25, 2020 at 10:44 AM imranindiana via <imranindiana=[email protected]> wrote:

I thought you could get custom knives for both 40mm & 50mm safety cutters. They had a graph paper for you to draw one out. Remember it being the cheapest option to get profiles, for hobbyist or short runs, as long as 40mm/50mm is acceptable. I have never ordered any. Has anyone done so?

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There were other similar cutters with custom knives as an option. I have not checked this out in a while so will take a bit of looking to see who is still around.

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Imran


On May 25, 2020, at 8:51 AM, TJ Cornish <tj@...> wrote:

?I am awaiting delivery of a CF531. This will be my first shaper. I'm familiar with router bits of course and the fantastic custom stuff you can do with shaper tooling like rail and stile cutters, but am trying to get my head around how you do normal things such as coves and roundovers.

I like the idea of a multi-knife head like the Felder 40mm safety head, and I understand the function of chip limiters which sure seem like a good idea to me, but the knife choices that are available from the Felder site are in many cases, really odd and I struggle to see how I would use them. Conspicuously absent are a set of radiuses - 6mm, 9mm, 12mm, etc., sizes that are ubiquitous in router bits and probably some of the first profiles new router users buy. This seems true even in the Amana line - there are a lot of strange choices, but finding normal knives is challenging.

I understand the idea of shifting the head up or down to get several profiles on one knife, but again, a lot of the knives I see don't seem particularly useful.? What am I missing? How do you best do normal things on a shaper??

For example, this is one of the few knives that makes sense to me:??It has the roundover and cove profiles for an 8mm radius on one knife, and I can see how to use both of these. Why aren't there similar knives in other radiuses?

In non-replacable tooling, I've found roundover cutters like these:??but I'm surprised that I can't find the comparable stuff in the replacable knives world.

What am I missing?? Thanks in advance.


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John Kee

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