Re: FB610 bandsaw blade position on the wheels: in the middle or near the edge?

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David,

I love that old iron.? I live out on the edge of civilization so I don't have ready access.?

Short story.? In about 2004 I bought a used, cheap Chiuting thickness planer. It produced smooth, flat, evenly thicknessed boards with horrible snipe.? I traded in on a Felder.

Last week I bought a 20" Oliver band saw directly from Oliver in Seattle. ?

What do the machines have in common??? I learned in the process of buying the Oliver that it is the store front brand of Geetech, aka Chiuting.? According to Bloomberg, another familiar sounding name, this is a publicly traded Taiwanese company.? Their customer list includes several woodworker recognizable names such as Jet, Powermatic, Laguna, Wilton, Sawstop, Grizzly and a bunch more.? Then there is also metal working machinery, plastic injection systems and other lines beyond.

The amount of Chiuting design content that goes into a given machine undoubtedly ?varies according to customer and contract.? Laguna and Oliver share some common dna but ?are not twins.? Its more than just sharing castings or grades of castings.? Its much more complicated.? An Ancestry.com ?(Incestry.com) tree would be interesting.?

Check out Oliver at the IWF.? They make nice machines.? Maybe it's based on experience gained from other brands.

Jon S

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Kumm
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2020 8:50 PM
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Subject: Re: [FOG] FB610 bandsaw blade position on the wheels: in the middle or near the edge?

Bandsaws are simple and there are good ones made in Taiwan.? Many US companies made wonderful large saws,? Northfield still does ( a few anyway ).? The fact there are few manufacturers now leads me to believe there isn't much profit or volume in the business.? How many ACM 740 get built and sold now, even world wide?? At least there are enough choices for the few of us who want them.? There are also great cast iron saws for less than half of the cost of new steel.? Dave

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Subject: Re: [FOG] FB610 bandsaw blade position on the wheels: in the middle or near the edge?

I prefer “robust rigidity” to all the other terms. ?LOL

David Best - Sent from my iPad

On Feb 20, 2020, at 7:13 PM, mark thomas <murkyd@...> wrote:

?To be fair, the terms are ambiguous.? You're using "strong" more or less as a synonym for "yield strength", but I think it's more common to use it as a vague and ill-defined term to describe a combination of more specific properties.? On the other hand, "stiff" does have a more precise meaning in materials and mechanics.?

Thinking more about bandsaws, it occurs to me that perhaps the optimal stiffness is part art, not just bean counting.? Probably too stiff is bad -- you want some flex to absorb shocks, etc.?

As a tangent, my Dad gave me The New Science of Strong Materials when I was about 10.? I still have it decades later and pick it up now and then.? Great book:

New Science of Strong Materials

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