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Re: Good first shaper bit


 

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This is the kind of spiral cutter Lucky is talking about. ? This particular one is a Rangate product and comes with a rub bearing for template work and has nickers top and bottom. ?I have a similar version made by Leitz. ?Terrific cutter.?



I often get asked ¡°I¡¯m new to shapers and want to get cutters for it, what should I buy?¡±. ? In my own experience, that¡¯s putting the cart before the horse, and if you aren¡¯t careful you¡¯ll spend a lot of money on tooling that¡¯s rarely or never used. ? I learned this the hard way. ? The best strategy for shaper tooling is to let the projects you commit to making drive the acquisition of the shaper tooling. ??

For instance, if you think you¡¯ll be doing a lot of tenon cutting for joinery, a pair of deep cutting rebate cutters might seem ideal - stack one cutter above the other with a spacer in between and presto, you have a variable thickness tenoner. ? Then a year later you realize all your tenon work is done with a Festool domino router. ? I¡¯ve seen this specific scenario many times. ?

To be sure, some cutters are more general use than others, and a spiral rebate cutter like Lucky mentioned facilitates template/pattern work, edge rebates, and can even be useful as dimensioning timber. ?

Lots of people will say to get a variable thickness grooving cutter. ?The utility of a groover is entirely dependent on the projects you undertake. ? I have two variable width groomers in my shaper tool inventory, and they are the least used cutters in my collection because of the type of work I do. ??

Then there are the bargain hunters who lunge after cutters because they are on sale, or offered at a whopping discount to new. ?I¡¯ve been guilty of this myself. ?So you buy that super screaming deal of a panel raising cutter, then once you use it you discover it doesn¡¯t have the profile shape you want, or is too large to go down into the shaper cavity below the cast iron top like you thought. ? Research what fits your machine, and buy what you know you need and will meet all the needs of your project and fit the machine.

Rangate¡¯s Cutter Share program is a terrific way to test out shaper tooling. ? You can rent most of their standard cutters for a few months for a project, then if you decide you need to own it, you can buy that set at a discount.?

My very strong encouragement is to let your projects drive your cutter purchases, and resist the temptation to buy a bunch of tooling on a prospective basis. ?

David Best - Sent from my iPad

On Feb 11, 2020, at 6:01 PM, imranindiana via Groups.Io <imranindiana@...> wrote:

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David,

I do not have a spiral head like you describe. Just a question, does it have nickers top and bottom to do clean rebates like a rebate head. If not how do you rate rebate quality compared to a rebate head with nickers - I assume you have one.

Imran

On Feb 12, 2020, at 3:00 AM, David Luckensmeyer <dhluckens@...> wrote:

?In general, the most used cutter by my colleagues and me, is a spiral cutter between 80-125mm diameter, and 60-100mm tall. The exact size depends on your machine¡¯s capacity to tilt the cutter through a full 45 degrees.?

This cutter can rebate timber, on the top or bottom, forward or backward, very cleanly, and at a myriad of sizes. You can put an angle on the edge of a piece of timber. You can chamfer edges at basically any size. You can even ¡°raise¡± a panel by rebating the front to fit into a table-saw-made groove and complete cabinet work.?

Many places make a cutter like I¡¯ve described above, including Hammer, Felder, Rangate, etc. I have a 125mm dia. Spiral cutter from Leitz. I love it and use it all the time.?

And your second cutter should be an adjustable groover, unless you have the dado set?

Warm regards,
Lucky

On 12 Feb 2020, at 7:50 am, robsimmons67 via Groups.Io <robsimmons67@...> wrote:

?So after getting my C3-41 I am not sure what a good first but would to get. I do have a router table but I do want to use the shaper. Any advice on what a good bit or two to get? Just have no idea where to start.?

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