My float has the arm wire going through through the center of it along
the length of the float. The wire has a clip looking device
that keeps the float from sliding off the wire. It looks like the
float could be replaced but I can't find a float available like that.
I could buy a sending unit that has the copper float and they look like
they could be replaced with the ones on those links, that snap into the
hook.
The sending unit I am looking to buy has a float that is very much like
mine. They say they make all kind of vintage reproduction sending
units and have for 30 years. This one has the 3/8" pickup for the 428
CJ engine. It looks like mine in everyway except it has a wire with
insulation going from the electrical connector to the variable
resistor. Mine just has a metal strap with no insulation.

Gary in SoCal

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf
Of Chris Scheers
Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2020 11:15 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [fairlaneregistry] Fuel level sensor

Interesting. I recently had the sending unit out of my '69 wagon and
those floats appear to be compatible with it.

The float arm is wire and has a hook at the end that the float snaps into.

Is yours different?

I know that the SW sending unit is different from the other models.


At 11:24 AM 1/2/2020, Gary Wittman wrote:

Chris,

I saw those floats but they are not compatible with my mine. They
work with a newer style sending unit. I have found a new sending
unit that is made by APC which looks very much like my original
sending unit. I will probably order that one.

Gary in SoCal

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On
Behalf Of Chris Scheers
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2019 4:02 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [fairlaneregistry] Fuel level sensor

At 11:12 AM 12/31/2019, gary.wittman@... wrote:

I finally got around to removing the fuel level sensor out of the
tank to see if anything was wrong with it. The screen was falling
apart at the seam and the float was partially compromised.
The screen consisted of two layers and each layer was still intact.
I rotated the screen layers so the seam gaps were not aligned and
used zip ties on each end to hold them in place on the intake tube.
I synched the zip ties very tight so they would not slip off, and I
hope the fuel does not cause them to relax. I also put one zip tie
loosely around the middle to stabilize the gap there.
The float was in good shape for the most part but on one end some
of the outer skin was broken off at the edge. The foam underneath
appeared to be close cell but was kind of eroding out of there. I
applied a thin layer of epoxy over the exposed foam with a little
overlap onto the intact skin. I felt this would help to keep the
foam from deteriorating more. Of course the best thing to do would
be to replace the float, but I doubt those are available by themselves.
I will probably order a new fuel level sensor unit as a back up in
case my repair does not work. My fuel gage was reading just under
1/4 and I drained out about 5 gallons. I will see if the gage
changes after the repair.

Not all epoxies are gasoline safe. Some will deteriorate.

New brass floats are available. Here are a couple.


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There are also plastic ones in the after market. I don't have any
experience with them.

I don't know how well zip ties will hold up to gasoline. Please

let me know.

I normally take off the sock/screen and throw it away. They tend to
fall apart and the pieces can plug the fuel system.

Whether or not you remove the sock, I recommend putting an inline
filter between the hard line and the fuel pump. There are some clear
ones that are handy to tell if you actually have fuel making it to the pump.

I was concerned about the longevity of these plastic filters, but
some of the ones I have have been going for over 10 years now.

?

I ordered the "filter sock" from VansAuto in Wapun WI, . cost me $9.00.? Went on perfectly after the old one fell apart when I removed it.? Happy New Year to all from Arizona.

Gene, 68GTConvert.

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I too have the inline filter and I think it is before the fuel pump.? It is a plastic one.

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Checking the resistance through the range from ‘’full’’ to ‘’empty’’ was one of the first things I did after removing the sensor from the fuel tank.? I wanted to make sure it was in spec and it was.

?

Gary in SoCal

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of D. Hadley via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2020 3:51 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [fairlaneregistry] Fuel level sensor

?

Exactly Ted.

On my Torino I put one of those glass inline filters in the engine compartment. The placement of it is where the line just comes out of the apron in front of the drivers side shock tower. just BEFORE entering the fuel pump. It is placed such that it is suspended in mid air & WON'T hit or touch anything) & is far enough away from any real heat (like the exhaust manifolds). I have extra replacement filter cartridges in the trunk for it IF/When needed. My carb (an Autolite 4100) also has an inline screw in metal filter with nipple that the rubber fuel line connects to. This is AFTER the fuel pump.

Gary I also HIGHLY & STRONGLY suggest that while you have the sender out, you TEST BOTH the "Empty" & "Full" position of the float with ohm meter readings in both positions. I say this again (like I stated before in your previous thread), that the resistance if off/not correct WILL cause the Fuel Gauge to NOT read as it should when it should.

David from WNY

On Wednesday, January 1, 2020, 12:19:06 PM EST, Ted <tedlupu@...> wrote:

?

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I put a new sending unit in my Montego and the filter fell off as I was installing it. they sure don’t make them like they use too. I installed two of those plastic clear filters on it. one from the fuel line coming into the engine bay just before it goes into the fuel pump so that you can see any crap that might be coming from the gas tank. also put a second one on the fuel line going into the carb. I like the plastic clear filters better than the glass ones. cause a friend of mine had a glass one on his 49 Mercury and it exploded one night on his way to a show and the car caught fire,by the time the fire dept. got there it was half way gone. total lose. very nice Mercury gone cause of a cheap part. I took the glass one off of my Torino and have been using the clear plastic ones now for 15 years or more. I replace them every year peace of mind and cheap insurance for all my cars. I pick them up at the swap meets for two for $5 they cost close to that for one at the auto parts store. I even use smaller ones on my two lawn tractors. HAPPY NEW YEAR to EVERYONE have a Great & Healthy one IN 2020!!!!

Chris,

I saw those floats but they are not compatible with my mine. They work
with a newer style sending unit. I have found a new sending unit that
is made by APC which looks very much like my original sending unit. I
will probably order that one.

Gary in SoCal

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf
Of Chris Scheers
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2019 4:02 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [fairlaneregistry] Fuel level sensor

At 11:12 AM 12/31/2019, gary.wittman@... wrote:

I finally got around to removing the fuel level sensor out of the
tank to see if anything was wrong with it. The screen was falling
apart at the seam and the float was partially compromised.
The screen consisted of two layers and each layer was still intact.
I rotated the screen layers so the seam gaps were not aligned and
used zip ties on each end to hold them in place on the intake tube.
I synched the zip ties very tight so they would not slip off, and I
hope the fuel does not cause them to relax. I also put one zip tie
loosely around the middle to stabilize the gap there.
The float was in good shape for the most part but on one end some of
the outer skin was broken off at the edge. The foam underneath
appeared to be close cell but was kind of eroding out of there. I
applied a thin layer of epoxy over the exposed foam with a little
overlap onto the intact skin. I felt this would help to keep the
foam from deteriorating more. Of course the best thing to do would
be to replace the float, but I doubt those are available by themselves.
I will probably order a new fuel level sensor unit as a back up in
case my repair does not work. My fuel gage was reading just under
1/4 and I drained out about 5 gallons. I will see if the gage
changes after the repair.

Not all epoxies are gasoline safe. Some will deteriorate.

New brass floats are available. Here are a couple.


nter.com_en_trucks_fuel-2Dsystem_gas-2Dtank-2Dsending-2Dunit_68-2D9275-
2Df-2Dgas-2Dtank-2Dfloat-2Dbrass-2Dp65&d=DwICAg&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7j
XrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=N8oEXv3gdNIkwN69ThQUPVlE_vq-tSNUrzZ9bSiy8BE&m=
cqC3QyD_y6NP0hH0FARVUUC3lHQc69W6R-59xaOqopA&s=-W-d6-DKSuSCIqXYYQptngxQu
gGv1WBPz-CW70_fMcA&e=


ss-2DFord-2DFuel-2DSending-2DUnit-2DFloat_dp_B01GFDB428_ref-3Ddp-5Fcsx-
5Fsw-5Fimage-5Fcsd-5F0&d=DwICAg&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_Cdpgn
VfiiMM&r=N8oEXv3gdNIkwN69ThQUPVlE_vq-tSNUrzZ9bSiy8BE&m=cqC3QyD_y6NP0hH0
FARVUUC3lHQc69W6R-59xaOqopA&s=Q7pwOjqCWwLVLEWcHJIsiuCEYB1KXLAbf9z5bT7yq
9E&e=

There are also plastic ones in the after market. I don't have any
experience with them.

I don't know how well zip ties will hold up to gasoline. Please let me know.

I normally take off the sock/screen and throw it away. They tend to
fall apart and the pieces can plug the fuel system.

Whether or not you remove the sock, I recommend putting an inline
filter between the hard line and the fuel pump. There are some clear
ones that are handy to tell if you actually have fuel making it to the pump.

I was concerned about the longevity of these plastic filters, but some
of the ones I have have been going for over 10 years now.


-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Chris Scheers, Applied Synergy, Inc.

Voice: 817-237-3360 Internet: chris@...
Fax: 817-237-3074

I too have the inline filter and I think it is before the fuel pump.? It is a plastic one.

?

Checking the resistance through the range from ‘’full’’ to ‘’empty’’ was one of the first things I did after removing the sensor from the fuel tank.? I wanted to make sure it was in spec and it was.

?

Gary in SoCal

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of D. Hadley via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2020 3:51 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [fairlaneregistry] Fuel level sensor

?

Exactly Ted.

On my Torino I put one of those glass inline filters in the engine compartment. The placement of it is where the line just comes out of the apron in front of the drivers side shock tower. just BEFORE entering the fuel pump. It is placed such that it is suspended in mid air & WON'T hit or touch anything) & is far enough away from any real heat (like the exhaust manifolds). I have extra replacement filter cartridges in the trunk for it IF/When needed. My carb (an Autolite 4100) also has an inline screw in metal filter with nipple that the rubber fuel line connects to. This is AFTER the fuel pump.

Gary I also HIGHLY & STRONGLY suggest that while you have the sender out, you TEST BOTH the "Empty" & "Full" position of the float with ohm meter readings in both positions. I say this again (like I stated before in your previous thread), that the resistance if off/not correct WILL cause the Fuel Gauge to NOT read as it should when it should.

David from WNY

On Wednesday, January 1, 2020, 12:19:06 PM EST, Ted <tedlupu@...> wrote:

?

?

I put a new sending unit in my Montego and the filter fell off as I was installing it. they sure don’t make them like they use too. I installed two of those plastic clear filters on it. one from the fuel line coming into the engine bay just before it goes into the fuel pump so that you can see any crap that might be coming from the gas tank. also put a second one on the fuel line going into the carb. I like the plastic clear filters better than the glass ones. cause a friend of mine had a glass one on his 49 Mercury and it exploded one night on his way to a show and the car caught fire,by the time the fire dept. got there it was half way gone. total lose. very nice Mercury gone cause of a cheap part. I took the glass one off of my Torino and have been using the clear plastic ones now for 15 years or more. I replace them every year peace of mind and cheap insurance for all my cars. I pick them up at the swap meets for two for $5 they cost close to that for one at the auto parts store. I even use smaller ones on my two lawn tractors. HAPPY NEW YEAR to EVERYONE have a Great & Healthy one IN 2020!!!!

?

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? I am Linc..... What more could you possibly need to know?

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Just wanted to jump in and wish all of you a Fantastic New Year with ... Junk yard crawls, barn finds, rod runs, and just hanging out with friends and family.

?

I hope we can communicate a little more with this year.? Sharing some tech tips, parts for sale,and or looking for. Maybe even hooking up with others in your State, local area and have some fun doing stuff.

?

Jack

Louisville, Ky

68 Ranchero GT?

?

?

?

I finally got around to removing the fuel level sensor out of the tank
to see if anything was wrong with it. The screen was falling apart at
the seam and the float was partially compromised.
The screen consisted of two layers and each layer was still intact. I
rotated the screen layers so the seam gaps were not aligned and used
zip ties on each end to hold them in place on the intake tube. I
synched the zip ties very tight so they would not slip off, and I hope
the fuel does not cause them to relax. I also put one zip tie loosely
around the middle to stabilize the gap there.
The float was in good shape for the most part but on one end some of
the outer skin was broken off at the edge. The foam underneath
appeared to be close cell but was kind of eroding out of there. I
applied a thin layer of epoxy over the exposed foam with a little
overlap onto the intact skin. I felt this would help to keep the foam
from deteriorating more. Of course the best thing to do would be to
replace the float, but I doubt those are available by themselves.
I will probably order a new fuel level sensor unit as a back up in case
my repair does not work. My fuel gage was reading just under
1/4 and I drained out about 5 gallons. I will see if the gage changes
after the repair.

Just wanted to jump in and wish all of you a Fantastic New Year with ... Junk yard crawls, barn finds, rod runs, and just hanging out with friends and family.

I hope we can communicate a little more with this year.? Sharing some tech tips, parts for sale,and or looking for. Maybe even hooking up with others in your State, local area and have some fun doing stuff.

Jack

Louisville, Ky

68 Ranchero GT?

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On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 12:16 AM, Dennis Bregitzer

<dennis.bregitzer@...> wrote:

Happy New?Year, Dennis