Hey, has anybody heard from Dave Hadley?
Dave, are you out there?
Greg in balmy N.O.
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I figured you were hunkered down in all that mess. I'm glad to hear you're ok. I can't imagine what that's like. Almost 80° here in N.O.
Greg
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Monday, 05 December 2022, 00:12PM -06:00 from D. Hadley via groups.io dhadley390@...:
Sorry a bit late to the show. We got abt 2 ft (give or take) of heavy wet snow, But the next town over was in a driving ban. I had to get a prescription and drove there. It was bad, but no worse than we have gotten other times and was passable using normal winter driving cautions when needed. They closed ALL the expressways (the 400 Expressway/RT 400 by me was closed till Monday. I was up on the roof removing some of the snow. But as Dave B said, it warmed up and rained quite a bit so most of of the snow was melted & we were down to green grass again.
Good to hear Dave was ok too in all that.
Thanks for checking.
Dave from WNY.
On Saturday, November 26, 2022, 08:15:40 PM EST, Peter Mahaits < astro@...> wrote:
Dave, You covered all the Dave's in Western NY. Thanks, Pete . On 2022-11-26 11:46 a.m., Dave Buchanan via groups.io wrote:
If its me Dave, that you are asking then we are OK here. I got about two feet is all and its pretty much melted already. Just north of Dave Hadleys place by less than twenty miles got 77 inches at last count but I went through there Thanksgiving Morning and evening and the snow was pretty much melted down to about 18 inches to two feet on the ground.? Its probably almost gone now since? it has been in the 50s.? Dave?
Buchanan
On Saturday, November 26, 2022 at 01:58:41 AM EST, Peter Mahaits wrote:
Dave,
I heard of the major snowfall in your area.
Are you OK?
Pete from the Loops
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A little late to the game but here goes.
Depending on the manufacture it can be called different things. GM has a "Protect-O-Plate/Tag/Buck tag" which IIRC is affixed/part of the firewall (as in one would have to cut it out as well as some of the sheet metal to remove it to "rebody" a car (done for valuable cars and can have bad legal issues involved depending on how & what was done. NOTE there ARE LAWS that can be looked up involving this type of thing and is usually ILLEGAL) in addition to IIRC maybe some important tags affixed to the core support.
Our cars '68 to at least '71 (and I think '66 & 67) have the full VIN # also stamped on the Top rail of the inner fender apron (about over the wheel area) and I know on the '68 - '71 can ONLY be seen IF the fenders are removed. AS an FYI they start (and IIRC end) with a 5 point open/outline star. In addition to this there are other HIDDEN VIN # stampings that Law Enforcement know of to help ID stolen cars (this for more modern cars like sometime in the 60s & up. I know on newer Fords like sometime in the 90s & up Ford stuck little white VIN stickers in a lot of places/on body panels of the car. I remember a T-Bird I looked at that had them stuck on metal body panels & parts in the trunk of the car.
Also on '68 & up Fords Partial VIN #s were stamped on a cast in/machined "pad" on the Engine Block & Transmission. Depending on which Engine & which Transmission will determine where the Partial VIN is stamped/located & will match the car's VIN. The Partial VIN will contain the 1st two Digits of the VIN & the Whole Consecutive Serial # of the VIN.
See attachments for Partial VIN # Locations on FE & C6 (1st attachment) and 289/302 (2nd clearly showing Full Partial VIN & 3rd pic better showing location on Top Back of Block Just behind Intake & Just ahead of the Transmission Bell Housing mounting, NOTE the 3 larger hoses on the bottom Right are from/to the Heater Core on the Firewall to aid in locating the Partial VIN stamping pad) & C4 (4th pic showing closeup of Partial VIN # & 5th pics showing the Raised Boss/Pad Location on Top Main Body of transmission towards the Rear of the body above the Vent Tube Boss in the case. NOTE Bell Housing on Left & Tailshaft Housing on Right. The 2nd through the 5th attachment are pics of the Original #s Matching 302 & C4 from my '68 Fairlane 500 4 Door which is a factory AC car, FULL VIN # 8A34F109090
I at this time DON'T know where the Partial VIN # Locations are for other Engines and Transmissions for our year cars.
Hope this helps
David from WNY
On Saturday, November 26, 2022, 01:56:37 AM EST, Peter Mahaits <astro@...> wrote:
Will and others, I've never heard of a, "buck tag", before. I eagerly await enlightenment. Pete from the Loops . On 2022-11-25 3:46 p.m., Will wrote:
Happy Thanksgiving everyone!
Was wondering if anyone knows where the buck tag is located on our cars? I don't see mine under the hood anywhere. I had to replace the core support years ago, so if it was there, it's long gone. It's not up near the passenger hood hinge either.?
Will
Denver, CO
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Dave,
Bout time we heard from you. I was getting quite worried about you.
Glad yer fine.
Pete from the Loops
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On 2022-12-05 10:11 a.m., D. Hadley via
groups.io wrote:
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Sorry a bit late to the show. We got abt 2 ft (give or take)
of heavy wet snow, But the next town over was in a driving ban.
I had to get a prescription and drove there. It was bad, but no
worse than we have gotten other times and was passable using
normal winter driving cautions when needed. They closed ALL the
expressways (the 400 Expressway/RT 400 by me was closed till
Monday. I was up on the roof removing some of the snow. But as
Dave B said, it warmed up and rained quite a bit so most of of
the snow was melted & we were down to green grass again.
Good to hear Dave was ok too in all that.
Thanks for checking.
Dave from WNY.
On Saturday, November 26, 2022, 08:15:40 PM EST, Peter
Mahaits <astro@...> wrote:
Dave,
You covered all the Dave's in Western NY.
Thanks,
Pete
.
On 2022-11-26
11:46 a.m., Dave Buchanan via groups.io wrote:
If its me Dave, that you are asking
then we are OK here. I got about two feet is all and
its pretty much melted already. Just north of Dave
Hadleys place by less than twenty miles got 77
inches at last count but I went through there
Thanksgiving Morning and evening and the snow was
pretty much melted down to about 18 inches to two
feet on the ground.? Its probably almost gone now
since? it has been in the 50s.? Dave?
Buchanan
On Saturday, November 26, 2022 at 01:58:41 AM
EST, Peter Mahaits <astro@...>
wrote:
Dave,
I heard of the major snowfall in
your area.
Are you OK?
Pete from the Loops
.
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Sorry a bit late to the show. We got abt 2 ft (give or take) of heavy wet snow, But the next town over was in a driving ban. I had to get a prescription and drove there. It was bad, but no worse than we have gotten other times and was passable using normal winter driving cautions when needed. They closed ALL the expressways (the 400 Expressway/RT 400 by me was closed till Monday. I was up on the roof removing some of the snow. But as Dave B said, it warmed up and rained quite a bit so most of of the snow was melted & we were down to green grass again.
Good to hear Dave was ok too in all that.
Thanks for checking.
Dave from WNY.
On Saturday, November 26, 2022, 08:15:40 PM EST, Peter Mahaits <astro@...> wrote:
Dave, You covered all the Dave's in Western NY. Thanks, Pete . On 2022-11-26 11:46 a.m., Dave Buchanan via groups.io wrote:
If its me Dave, that you are asking then we are OK here. I got about two feet is all and its pretty much melted already. Just north of Dave Hadleys place by less than twenty miles got 77 inches at last count but I went through there Thanksgiving Morning and evening and the snow was pretty much melted down to about 18 inches to two feet on the ground.? Its probably almost gone now since? it has been in the 50s.? Dave?
Buchanan
On Saturday, November 26, 2022 at 01:58:41 AM EST, Peter Mahaits <astro@...> wrote:
Dave,
I heard of the major snowfall in your area.
Are you OK?
Pete from the Loops
.
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I would love to drive my Cobra on that track.? My first wife, who I am still good friends with, is from Bristol.? I was in Bristol there a couple times and drove by the speedway, but was never inside.??
I have run many tracks during my amateur racing career?with SCCA for 32 years.? I does not look like I will be running BMS though.? It is just too far away.? I would probably be disappointed anyway having to drive at slow speed.? I ran Las Vegas Speedway with the Richard Petty Experience in a slightly detuned? NASCAR race car.? We had to follow instructors to insure we would not crash the cars.? Even though we were going 140 mph, I was a little disappointed.? I did not get that rush of being on the edge in the corners.? ?
Gary in SoCal
On Saturday, November 26, 2022 at 05:40:18 PM PST, Tony Avak <avakar@...> wrote:
For those who do not follow the "Friends of the Fairlane Club" on
Facebook, a few days ago we got confirmation that our club is scheduled
to drive on the track at Bristol Motor Speedway on June 30th at 10 AM as
part of our next national meet.? We are still ironing out some of the
details (insurance requirements and how many cars they can expect us to
bring) but it's on!? Doug Bender did all the work to make this happen so
you can send your thanks to him.? Further details will be in the
January-February issue of the Fairlaner.
Tony
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Ok. That answers it, thanks Dennis. As for my build sheet, if it was in the front seat, it's long gone. The back of the driver's side front seat broke on my parents and my dad had to replace it. I tore out the interior when I got it blasted and never saw it.
Will Denver, CO
On Nov 26, 2022 10:05 PM, Dennis Bregitzer <dennis.bregitzer@...> wrote: I just googled Shelby I'd tags...those are tags put on by Shelby with their numbers for that car. Those tags are not there when originally being built by Ford.
On Sat, Nov 26, 2022, 11:59 PM Dennis Bregitzer via <dennis.bregitzer= [email protected]> wrote: I'm thinking our build sheet is to Ford as the buck tag is to Chrysler. They have a tag very similar to our door tag that has all the options for that car mounted to the top of the left fender. Many of our members have found the build sheets in their cars.
On Sat, Nov 26, 2022, 10:13 PM Peter Mahaits < Astro@...> wrote:
I have the door tag, or Data Plate, curious that I've never heard of
a buck tag.
Pete from the Loops
.
On 2022-11-26 6:48 p.m., Will wrote:
I have that tag on my drivers door. I've been
watching Dennis Collins on youtube rescuing Shelby's and they
all have buck tags under the hood along with Mopar's. Maybe ours
don't, was just curious if ours ever had them. I also have a
Marti Report on my car, the best money I ever spent! I just wish
I could've showed it to my Mother, it was her first new car. I
think she would've loved to see it.
Will
Denver, CO
On Nov 26, 2022 6:31 PM, Tony Avak
<avakar@...> wrote:
Will, I think what you call a Buck Tag is what we
usually call the Data Plate or (Ford's name) Warranty
Plate.? On our cars it is located on the driver's door
just below the door latch.? If yours is missing you can
have one remade by Marti Auto Works.? They prefer that
you send them a photo of the old tag but if it is gone
you can probably send a photo of your VIN and they can
look up the info on your car from their data base.? They
may charge more for that, though.
Tony
On 11/25/2022 6:46 PM, Will wrote:
Happy Thanksgiving everyone!
Was wondering if anyone knows where the buck tag is
located on our cars? I don't see mine under the hood
anywhere. I had to replace the core support years ago,
so if it was there, it's long gone. It's not up near the
passenger hood hinge either.?
Will
Denver, CO
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At 05:46 PM 11/25/2022, Will wrote: Happy Thanksgiving everyone!
Was wondering if anyone knows where the buck tag is located on our cars? I don't see mine under the hood anywhere. I had to replace the core support years ago, so if it was there, it's long gone. It's not up near the passenger hood hinge either. To the best of my knowledge, the 68-69 Fairlanes don't have them. I don't know what year Fords have them, if any. The closest you will see is the door data plate on the driver's door. Sometimes you may find a build sheet tucked into the seat springs or in the dash, but placement is inconsistent and the sheet may not be readable any more. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Chris Scheers, Applied Synergy, Inc. Voice: 817-237-3360 Internet: chris@... Fax: 817-237-3074
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I just googled Shelby I'd tags...those are tags put on by Shelby with their numbers for that car. Those tags are not there when originally being built by Ford.
On Sat, Nov 26, 2022, 11:59 PM Dennis Bregitzer via <dennis.bregitzer= [email protected]> wrote: I'm thinking our build sheet is to Ford as the buck tag is to Chrysler. They have a tag very similar to our door tag that has all the options for that car mounted to the top of the left fender. Many of our members have found the build sheets in their cars.
On Sat, Nov 26, 2022, 10:13 PM Peter Mahaits < Astro@...> wrote:
I have the door tag, or Data Plate, curious that I've never heard of
a buck tag.
Pete from the Loops
.
On 2022-11-26 6:48 p.m., Will wrote:
I have that tag on my drivers door. I've been
watching Dennis Collins on youtube rescuing Shelby's and they
all have buck tags under the hood along with Mopar's. Maybe ours
don't, was just curious if ours ever had them. I also have a
Marti Report on my car, the best money I ever spent! I just wish
I could've showed it to my Mother, it was her first new car. I
think she would've loved to see it.
Will
Denver, CO
|
I'm thinking our build sheet is to Ford as the buck tag is to Chrysler. They have a tag very similar to our door tag that has all the options for that car mounted to the top of the left fender. Many of our members have found the build sheets in their cars.
On Sat, Nov 26, 2022, 10:13 PM Peter Mahaits < Astro@...> wrote:
I have the door tag, or Data Plate, curious that I've never heard of
a buck tag.
Pete from the Loops
.
On 2022-11-26 6:48 p.m., Will wrote:
I have that tag on my drivers door. I've been
watching Dennis Collins on youtube rescuing Shelby's and they
all have buck tags under the hood along with Mopar's. Maybe ours
don't, was just curious if ours ever had them. I also have a
Marti Report on my car, the best money I ever spent! I just wish
I could've showed it to my Mother, it was her first new car. I
think she would've loved to see it.
Will
Denver, CO
|
I have the door tag, or Data Plate, curious that I've never heard of
a buck tag.
Pete from the Loops
.
On 2022-11-26 6:48 p.m., Will wrote:
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
I have that tag on my drivers door. I've been
watching Dennis Collins on youtube rescuing Shelby's and they
all have buck tags under the hood along with Mopar's. Maybe ours
don't, was just curious if ours ever had them. I also have a
Marti Report on my car, the best money I ever spent! I just wish
I could've showed it to my Mother, it was her first new car. I
think she would've loved to see it.
Will
Denver, CO
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That's awesome! I spent the extra money to get the framed copy. Well worth it
Will Denver, CO
On Nov 26, 2022 7:59 PM, Tony Avak <avakar@...> wrote:
My car was also purchased new by my
parents.? I've wanted a full Marti Report for my car but somehow
never got around to it.? Maybe I'll get one for myself for
Christmas!
Tony
On 11/26/2022 9:48 PM, Will wrote:
I have that tag on my drivers door. I've been
watching Dennis Collins on youtube rescuing Shelby's and they
all have buck tags under the hood along with Mopar's. Maybe ours
don't, was just curious if ours ever had them. I also have a
Marti Report on my car, the best money I ever spent! I just wish
I could've showed it to my Mother, it was her first new car. I
think she would've loved to see it.
Will
Denver, CO
On Nov 26, 2022 6:31 PM, Tony Avak
<avakar@...> wrote:
Will, I think what you call a Buck Tag is what we
usually call the Data Plate or (Ford's name) Warranty
Plate.? On our cars it is located on the driver's door
just below the door latch.? If yours is missing you can
have one remade by Marti Auto Works.? They prefer that
you send them a photo of the old tag but if it is gone
you can probably send a photo of your VIN and they can
look up the info on your car from their data base.? They
may charge more for that, though.
Tony
On 11/25/2022 6:46 PM, Will wrote:
Happy Thanksgiving everyone!
Was wondering if anyone knows where the buck tag is
located on our cars? I don't see mine under the hood
anywhere. I had to replace the core support years ago,
so if it was there, it's long gone. It's not up near the
passenger hood hinge either.?
Will
Denver, CO
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My car was also purchased new by my
parents.? I've wanted a full Marti Report for my car but somehow
never got around to it.? Maybe I'll get one for myself for
Christmas!
Tony
On 11/26/2022 9:48 PM, Will wrote:
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
I have that tag on my drivers door. I've been
watching Dennis Collins on youtube rescuing Shelby's and they
all have buck tags under the hood along with Mopar's. Maybe ours
don't, was just curious if ours ever had them. I also have a
Marti Report on my car, the best money I ever spent! I just wish
I could've showed it to my Mother, it was her first new car. I
think she would've loved to see it.
Will
Denver, CO
|
I have that tag on my drivers door. I've been watching Dennis Collins on youtube rescuing Shelby's and they all have buck tags under the hood along with Mopar's. Maybe ours don't, was just curious if ours ever had them. I also have a Marti Report on my car, the best money I ever spent! I just wish I could've showed it to my Mother, it was her first new car. I think she would've loved to see it.
Will Denver, CO
On Nov 26, 2022 6:31 PM, Tony Avak <avakar@...> wrote:
Will, I think what you call a Buck Tag
is what we usually call the Data Plate or (Ford's name) Warranty
Plate.? On our cars it is located on the driver's door just below
the door latch.? If yours is missing you can have one remade by
Marti Auto Works.? They prefer that you send them a photo of the
old tag but if it is gone you can probably send a photo of your
VIN and they can look up the info on your car from their data
base.? They may charge more for that, though.
Tony
On 11/25/2022 6:46 PM, Will wrote:
Happy Thanksgiving everyone!
Was wondering if anyone knows where the buck tag is located on our
cars? I don't see mine under the hood anywhere. I had to replace
the core support years ago, so if it was there, it's long gone.
It's not up near the passenger hood hinge either.?
Will
Denver, CO
|
For those who do not follow the "Friends of the Fairlane Club" on
Facebook, a few days ago we got confirmation that our club is scheduled
to drive on the track at Bristol Motor Speedway on June 30th at 10 AM as
part of our next national meet.? We are still ironing out some of the
details (insurance requirements and how many cars they can expect us to
bring) but it's on!? Doug Bender did all the work to make this happen so
you can send your thanks to him.? Further details will be in the
January-February issue of the Fairlaner.
Tony
|
Will, I think what you call a Buck Tag
is what we usually call the Data Plate or (Ford's name) Warranty
Plate.? On our cars it is located on the driver's door just below
the door latch.? If yours is missing you can have one remade by
Marti Auto Works.? They prefer that you send them a photo of the
old tag but if it is gone you can probably send a photo of your
VIN and they can look up the info on your car from their data
base.? They may charge more for that, though.
Tony
On 11/25/2022 6:46 PM, Will wrote:
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
Happy Thanksgiving everyone!
Was wondering if anyone knows where the buck tag is located on our
cars? I don't see mine under the hood anywhere. I had to replace
the core support years ago, so if it was there, it's long gone.
It's not up near the passenger hood hinge either.?
Will
Denver, CO
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Most of the ones I've seen are riveted on and about that size
Will Denver, CO
On Nov 26, 2022 6:16 PM, Peter Mahaits <Astro@...> wrote:
Will,
Is that tag about 3" X 1 1/2" and usually wired on?
Pete from the Loops
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On 2022-11-26 5:17 a.m., Will wrote:
It's the data tag first attached to automobiles
when their first welded togther. It carries all the info about
that vehicle, engine, trans, body color. # in production line,
etc.
Will
Denver, CO
On Nov 25, 2022 11:56 PM, Peter Mahaits
<Astro@...> wrote:
Will and others,
I've never heard of a, "buck tag", before.
I eagerly await enlightenment.
Pete from the Loops
.
On 2022-11-25 3:46 p.m., Will wrote:
Happy Thanksgiving everyone!
Was wondering if anyone knows where the buck tag is
located on our cars? I don't see mine under the hood
anywhere. I had to replace the core support years ago,
so if it was there, it's long gone. It's not up near the
passenger hood hinge either.?
Will
Denver, CO
|
Will,
Is that tag about 3" X 1 1/2" and usually wired on?
Pete from the Loops
.
On 2022-11-26 5:17 a.m., Will wrote:
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
It's the data tag first attached to automobiles
when their first welded togther. It carries all the info about
that vehicle, engine, trans, body color. # in production line,
etc.
Will
Denver, CO
|
Dave,
You covered all the Dave's in Western NY.
Thanks,
Pete
.
On 2022-11-26 11:46 a.m., Dave Buchanan
via groups.io wrote:
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Show quoted text
If its me Dave, that you are
asking then we are OK here. I got about two feet is all and
its pretty much melted already. Just north of Dave Hadleys
place by less than twenty miles got 77 inches at last count
but I went through there Thanksgiving Morning and evening and
the snow was pretty much melted down to about 18 inches to two
feet on the ground.? Its probably almost gone now since? it
has been in the 50s.? Dave?
Buchanan
On Saturday, November 26, 2022 at 01:58:41 AM EST, Peter
Mahaits <astro@...> wrote:
Dave,
I heard of the major snowfall in your area.
Are you OK?
Pete from the Loops
.
|
If its me Dave, that you are asking then we are OK here. I got about two feet is all and its pretty much melted already. Just north of Dave Hadleys place by less than twenty miles got 77 inches at last count but I went through there Thanksgiving Morning and evening and the snow was pretty much melted down to about 18 inches to two feet on the ground.? Its probably almost gone now since? it has been in the 50s.? Dave?
Buchanan
On Saturday, November 26, 2022 at 01:58:41 AM EST, Peter Mahaits <astro@...> wrote:
Dave,
I heard of the major snowfall in your area.
Are you OK?
Pete from the Loops
.
|
Will