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In a message dated 6/18/08 11:55:45 AM, freeda.peeple@... writes:

I need a roof rack on my 99 EVC, but not much money. Has anyone here
installed a "homemade rack" or where can I buy a cheap one? Go Westy
want like 300 bucks! It's nowhere near worth that, IMO!

Thanks, Billy

Billy:

Unless you 'absolutely' have to have a roof rack.......I would suggest no
going that route.
The roof rack and whatever you mount there will impact your gas mileage at
least 2-4 mpg.

I have removed my Yakima Tracks towers and just put everything inside.
An alternative would be a rear hitch mounted carrier......no drag.

Kent Kirkley
'97EVC


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I need a roof rack on my 99 EVC, but not much money. Has anyone here
installed a "homemade rack" or where can I buy a cheap one? Go Westy
want like 300 bucks! It's nowhere near worth that, IMO!

Thanks, Billy

By the time you buy the tubing, welding rod, mounting hardware, metal cutting blades, and fuel to make these purchase's, you will be closer to 300 dollars than you think. Seems like a fair price if the product is made well. I suggest saving money on some other aspect of your life and just buy the thing if you need one. Unless you figure your time is free, I seriously doubt you will actually save much money building one. Every company is entitled to making a gentleman's profit, 300 dollars seems like a bargain to me.
sight unseen though

Thanks for the advice. But I'll bet I can build one for about $100
using parts found at a marine supply & home depot. No welding need be
involved, just good strong stainless steel brackets. I'm just trying
to find someone here that might have done it successfully & cost-
effectively. And I'm unemployed & trying to start up a new business,
so that "$300" of my savings account needs to find it's way into my
stomach! ;)

Best, Billy


--- In ev_update@..., "Downtown Computers" <dkorb@...>
wrote:

By the time you buy the tubing, welding rod, mounting hardware,

metal cutting blades, and fuel to make these purchase's, you will be
closer to 300 dollars than you think. Seems like a fair price if the
product is made well. I suggest saving money on some other aspect of
your life and just buy the thing if you need one. Unless you figure
your time is free, I seriously doubt you will actually save much
money building one. Every company is entitled to making a gentleman's
profit, 300 dollars seems like a bargain to me.

sight unseen though



----- Original Message -----
From: FreedaPeeple
To: ev_update@...
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 11:55 AM
Subject: [ev_update] Most inexpensive roof rack for '99 EVC??


I need a roof rack on my 99 EVC, but not much money. Has anyone

here

installed a "homemade rack" or where can I buy a cheap one? Go

Westy

want like 300 bucks! It's nowhere near worth that, IMO!

Thanks, Billy





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In a message dated 6/18/08 4:05:19 PM, macgroup@... writes:

Did you have the Yakima deflector installed on the front bar?? I have a
Scion xB, and saw the same mileage drop, plus excessive wind noise, but the
mileage pretty much came back with the deflector, and the wind noise was
gone.? Obviously, loading the racks will reduce the mileage, but I wonder if
the deflector will help on the Van when they are empty..

No
My Yakima Tracks are mounted running from near the rear edge of the poptop
forward.
I never got the deflector, thinking the bars were so far back as to be out of
the slipstream.
However, since they did seem to impact the mpg, perhaps the deflector would
have been good to have??

Kent Kirkley
'97EVC


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The GoWesty one is a Yakima -- right?

I found the towers and bars on craigslist for $60, then just needed to
buy the "wide body" brackets from the store. I think they're like $30
a pair. Grand Total $120.


--- In ev_update@..., "FreedaPeeple" <freeda.peeple@...>
wrote:

I need a roof rack on my 99 EVC, but not much money. Has anyone here
installed a "homemade rack" or where can I buy a cheap one? Go Westy
want like 300 bucks! It's nowhere near worth that, IMO!

Thanks, Billy

Kent,



Did you have the Yakima deflector installed on the front bar? I have a
Scion xB, and saw the same mileage drop, plus excessive wind noise, but the
mileage pretty much came back with the deflector, and the wind noise was
gone. Obviously, loading the racks will reduce the mileage, but I wonder if
the deflector will help on the Van when they are empty..



Stuart

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From: ev_update@... [mailto:ev_update@...] On Behalf
Of kgkirkley@...
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 1:33 PM
To: ev_update@...
Subject: Re: [ev_update] Most inexpensive roof rack for '99 EVC??




In a message dated 6/18/08 11:55:45 AM, freeda.peeple@
<mailto:freeda.peeple%40yahoo.com> yahoo.com writes:

I need a roof rack on my 99 EVC, but not much money. Has anyone here
installed a "homemade rack" or where can I buy a cheap one? Go Westy
want like 300 bucks! It's nowhere near worth that, IMO!

Thanks, Billy

Billy:

Unless you 'absolutely' have to have a roof rack.......I would suggest no
going that route.
The roof rack and whatever you mount there will impact your gas mileage at
least 2-4 mpg.

I have removed my Yakima Tracks towers and just put everything inside.
An alternative would be a rear hitch mounted carrier......no drag.

Kent Kirkley
'97EVC

****
Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for
fuel-efficient used cars.
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aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)

Or you could also go with the Yakima rear-hatch rack. No hitch needed.
Just straps onto the back. Drawback - it only holds two bikes. I got
mine for about $150 at REI.


--- In ev_update@..., "FreedaPeeple" <freeda.peeple@...>
wrote:

I need a roof rack on my 99 EVC, but not much money. Has anyone here
installed a "homemade rack" or where can I buy a cheap one? Go Westy
want like 300 bucks! It's nowhere near worth that, IMO!

Thanks, Billy

Kent, thanks. But I need to carry a ladder or two for my home improvements biz. I'm wondering if I could get away with installing strong stainless steel "handles" (marine type) along the sides, reinforced with stainless steel plates on the bolted side, on the interior. And then just strapping the ladders directly on the roof with rachett straps? Do you think that would work?

Billy

Jeff, yes I believe they are Yakima. Annd your idea sounds great, but
I need the rack soon & might be impossible to find on CL right now,
though I'll check around. Thx for suggestion.

Billy

--- In ev_update@..., "jeff_westy" <k-and-j.drexel@...>
wrote:

The GoWesty one is a Yakima -- right?

I found the towers and bars on craigslist for $60, then just needed

to

buy the "wide body" brackets from the store. I think they're like

$30

a pair. Grand Total $120.


--- In ev_update@..., "FreedaPeeple" <freeda.peeple@>
wrote:

I need a roof rack on my 99 EVC, but not much money. Has anyone

here

installed a "homemade rack" or where can I buy a cheap one? Go

Westy

want like 300 bucks! It's nowhere near worth that, IMO!

Thanks, Billy

Bruce, it would be for a large ladder or two, so a bike rack wouldn't
quite cut it! ;)

But, thx. Billy

--- In ev_update@..., "Bruce_Gray99" <bruce_gray99@...>
wrote:

Or you could also go with the Yakima rear-hatch rack. No hitch

needed.

Just straps onto the back. Drawback - it only holds two bikes. I

got

mine for about $150 at REI.


--- In ev_update@..., "FreedaPeeple" <freeda.peeple@>
wrote:

I need a roof rack on my 99 EVC, but not much money. Has anyone

here

installed a "homemade rack" or where can I buy a cheap one? Go

Westy

want like 300 bucks! It's nowhere near worth that, IMO!

Thanks, Billy

Geez Billy,



I hope you won’t do this to a rare van worth $20k or more!



I used my ’84 Vanagon Westy for ladder/plywood/lumber hauling for years with
a Yakima rack. I could easily haul 4 10’ sheets of 5/8” T-111 plywood
lashed to the rack.





The problem with doing this on the EVC is that the top is ABS, and will
crack if overloaded. The fiberglass Vanagon Westy top was much stronger,
and the Yakima system has to be installed with tracks on the TOP, not sides,
of the roof for maximum strength. Kent Kirkley has done this and can tell
you how. He told me how, but I haven’t done it yet. Don’t add mock “rain
gutters” to the side.



If you can’t afford the Yakima system, just do what canoe and kayak haulers
do. Put some thick, stiff foam pads (thick enough to clear the vent) on the
roof, and tie the ladders down with long straps. Put ?” rope loops around
the hinges of the hood and rear hatch (they can be left hanging inside when
not used), and run your nylon straps through them. You won’t be drilling
through the side of the van for this. Plywood won’t work this way though.



Here is a link that will give you an idea of what I’m talking about, but it
bolts the loop in:



Good luck!



Stuart

’97 EVC







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From: ev_update@... [mailto:ev_update@...] On Behalf
Of FreedaPeeple^^
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 10:44 PM
To: ev_update@...
Subject: [ev_update] Re: Most inexpensive roof rack for '99 EVC??



Kent, thanks. But I need to carry a ladder or two for my home improvements
biz. I'm wondering if I could get away with installing strong stainless
steel "handles" (marine type) along the sides, reinforced with stainless
steel plates on the bolted side, on the interior. And then just strapping
the ladders directly on the roof with rachett straps? Do you think that
would work?

Billy






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Thanks Kent. Wanna sell you USED rack that you don't USE anymore?? ;)

Best,

Billy


--- In ev_update@..., kgkirkley@... wrote:

In a message dated 6/18/08 11:55:45 AM, freeda.peeple@... writes:

I need a roof rack on my 99 EVC, but not much money. Has anyone

here

installed a "homemade rack" or where can I buy a cheap one? Go

Westy

want like 300 bucks! It's nowhere near worth that, IMO!

Thanks, Billy

Billy:

Unless you 'absolutely' have to have a roof rack.......I would

suggest no

going that route.
The roof rack and whatever you mount there will impact your gas

mileage at

least 2-4 mpg.

I have removed my Yakima Tracks towers and just put everything

inside.

An alternative would be a rear hitch mounted carrier......no drag.

Kent Kirkley
'97EVC


****
Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for
fuel-efficient used cars.
()


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Having just spent close to $3,500 replacing my roof, I would be very, very careful about doing anything that would tortionally stress the roof.

--Michael Wise
'99 EVC, '08 R32
Ketchum, Idaho


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Not sure if you're in CA, but here's a rack and brackets for $125



--- In ev_update@..., "FreedaPeeple" <freeda.peeple@...>
wrote:

Jeff, yes I believe they are Yakima. Annd your idea sounds great, but
I need the rack soon & might be impossible to find on CL right now,
though I'll check around. Thx for suggestion.

Billy

--- In ev_update@..., "jeff_westy" <k-and-j.drexel@>
wrote:

The GoWesty one is a Yakima -- right?

I found the towers and bars on craigslist for $60, then just needed

to

buy the "wide body" brackets from the store. I think they're like

$30

a pair. Grand Total $120.


--- In ev_update@..., "FreedaPeeple" <freeda.peeple@>
wrote:

I need a roof rack on my 99 EVC, but not much money. Has anyone

here

installed a "homemade rack" or where can I buy a cheap one? Go

Westy

want like 300 bucks! It's nowhere near worth that, IMO!

Thanks, Billy

P.S., It is my rack from my Vanagon I sold.



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From: ev_update@... [mailto:ev_update@...] On Behalf
Of jeff_westy
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 12:13 PM
To: ev_update@...
Subject: [ev_update] Re: Most inexpensive roof rack for '99 EVC??



Not sure if you're in CA, but here's a rack and brackets for $125

. <>
vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3902678

--- In ev_update@yahoogrou <mailto:ev_update%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com,
"FreedaPeeple" <freeda.peeple@...>
wrote:

Jeff, yes I believe they are Yakima. Annd your idea sounds great, but
I need the rack soon & might be impossible to find on CL right now,
though I'll check around. Thx for suggestion.

Billy

--- In ev_update@yahoogrou <mailto:ev_update%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com,

"jeff_westy" <k-and-j.drexel@>

wrote:

The GoWesty one is a Yakima -- right?

I found the towers and bars on craigslist for $60, then just needed

to

buy the "wide body" brackets from the store. I think they're like

$30

a pair. Grand Total $120.


--- In ev_update@yahoogrou <mailto:ev_update%40yahoogroups.com> ps.com,

"FreedaPeeple" <freeda.peeple@>

wrote:

I need a roof rack on my 99 EVC, but not much money. Has anyone

here

installed a "homemade rack" or where can I buy a cheap one? Go

Westy

want like 300 bucks! It's nowhere near worth that, IMO!

Thanks, Billy

That's excellent advice. I bought a'95 with a roof rack and the roof
stress cracked within two months. The $400 repair cracked again within
days.

Winnebago anticipates this, or they wouldn't sell replacement roofs!



--- In ev_update@..., mwise@... wrote:

Having just spent close to $3,500 replacing my roof, I would be

very, very careful about doing anything that would tortionally stress
the roof.

--Michael Wise
'99 EVC, '08 R32
Ketchum, Idaho


Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-----Original Message-----
From: kgkirkley@...

Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 16:32:37
To:ev_update@...
Subject: Re: [ev_update] Most inexpensive roof rack for '99 EVC??



In a message dated 6/18/08 11:55:45 AM, freeda.peeple@... writes:

I need a roof rack on my 99 EVC, but not much money. Has anyone here
installed a "homemade rack" or where can I buy a cheap one? Go Westy
want like 300 bucks! It's nowhere near worth that, IMO!

Thanks, Billy

Billy:

Unless you 'absolutely' have to have a roof rack.......I would

suggest no

going that route.
The roof rack and whatever you mount there will impact your gas

mileage at

least 2-4 mpg.

I have removed my Yakima Tracks towers and just put everything inside.
An alternative would be a rear hitch mounted carrier......no drag.

Kent Kirkley
'97EVC


****
Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for
fuel-efficient used cars.
()





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