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my van was broken into and i intend to prevent it from happening
again. it seems easy to run a cable thru the two front door handles
and lock it. but how to prevent opening the slider? i have been
thinking about some sort of cable thru the slider window and passenger
front window. or thru the two door handles . or some sort of bolt thru
the body that can be locked. has anybody done this?
i have seem some pretty heavy duty external locks on german vans
headed thru south america, but i didnt want to go that far.

forsalexxx wrote:

My van was broken into and I intend to prevent it from happening
again... but how to prevent opening the slider? I have seem some
pretty heavy duty external locks on German vans headed thru South
America, but I didn't want to go that far

I would guess that the *appearance* of security is more important than actual security. If your van looks hard to break into, the thief won't try and will pick another target.

This could include an obvious security system (with stickers and blinking lights), large obvious extra locks, perhaps even bars or wire mesh on the windows (I've seen stick-on plastic tinting film that had printed images of the little wires that they embed in security glass).

I replaced all of the door lock knobs with straight ones from the VW
dealer that are similar to the ones on my 2000 Jetta. They do not have
a cap-are just straight and they drop down out of site down the hole
when I lock the doors. Unless you have the remote or a key you can not
open the door from inside or outside on my 2002 EVC when it is locked
this way. Of course they can always break a glass but will have to
climb through a window to get in and out with anything. Don't know if
this would work on your EVC, but I got the idea after someone else in
the group posted this as a reasonable option.

Miles Koppersmith
2002 EVC

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i did have stickers , and i did have wire mesh that was wired to the
door frame , and they cut the wires. and i had totally removed the
little plastic door lock extensions.
what do you mean by obvious locks?....and how would you rig it to
prevent opening the sliding door?

-i had already removed the stock plastic knobs, but you could still
reach into the hole with a pliers and pull it back up. how do you stop
that?
also, i think they just cut out the wired screen in the slider to
reach that lock hole. so i want some way to prevent the sliding door
from opening at all. maybe a cable thru the passenger side window
across the pillar and thru the slider window.

forsalexxx wrote:

I did have stickers, and I did have wire mesh that was wired to the
door frame, and they cut the wires. And I had totally removed the
little plastic door lock extensions.

Ouch! It sounds like you were up against a determined thief. Was there something visible inside that he might have thought was especially valuable?

What do you mean by obvious locks?....and how would you rig it to
prevent opening the sliding door?

Commercial vans have aftermarket locks installed that at least *look* more robust than the factory locks. I haven't investigated where these come from, though.

If you flip the childproof switch on the edge of the sliding door, then when it is locked, you can't open it from either the inside or outside with the handle. If you also installed the flush buttons, then the only way to unlock the door is with the key or remote button.

Re Securing sliding door:

I've seen UPS, etc. delivery trucks with heavy
hockey puck locks, & found one on line at:

www.accessconnect.com/prodpage20.htm


"Security Locks For Car, Truck, Suv and Van - - - -
...Take a look at our line sheet . .. The THP1
hockey puck trailer door lock has a 3/8" diameter
internal shackle."

Perhaps someone makes a smaller version? - or, how
about adding a hasp & padlock inside - so it can be
seen throuh the glass?

Please let us know your solution.

Jack_son

==================================================
--In ev_update@..., Lee Hart <leeahart@..> wrote:

forsalexxx wrote:

I did have stickers, and I did have wire mesh that was wired to

the

door frame, and they cut the wires. And I had totally removed the
little plastic door lock extensions.

Ouch! It sounds like you were up against a determined thief. Was

there

something visible inside that he might have thought was especially

valuable?

What do you mean by obvious locks?....and how would you rig it to
prevent opening the sliding door?

Commercial vans have aftermarket locks installed that at least

*look*

more robust than the factory locks. I haven't investigated where

these

come from, though.

If you flip the childproof switch on the edge of the sliding door,

then

when it is locked, you can't open it from either the inside or

outside

with the handle. If you also installed the flush buttons, then the

only

way to unlock the door is with the key or remote button.

I've got these padded cables for locking down canoes and kayaks.
They work well and are well made. The canoe ones are 13 feet long so
you could loop them around seats, door handles and the like. Not
sure how you'd get out of the car afterwards, though.




Duane
2000 EVC

--- In ev_update@..., "forsalexxx" <forsalexxx@...> wrote:

-i had already removed the stock plastic knobs, but you could still
reach into the hole with a pliers and pull it back up. how do you

stop

that?
also, i think they just cut out the wired screen in the slider to
reach that lock hole. so i want some way to prevent the sliding door
from opening at all. maybe a cable thru the passenger side window
across the pillar and thru the slider window.


-- In ev_update@..., "Miles Koppersmith" <miles@> wrote:

I replaced all of the door lock knobs with straight ones from the

VW

dealer that are similar to the ones on my 2000 Jetta. They do

not have

a cap-are just straight and they drop down out of site down the

hole

when I lock the doors. Unless you have the remote or a key you

can not

open the door from inside or outside on my 2002 EVC when it is

locked

this way. Of course they can always break a glass but will have

to

climb through a window to get in and out with anything. Don't

know if

this would work on your EVC, but I got the idea after someone

else in

the group posted this as a reasonable option.

Miles Koppersmith
2002 EVC

One word of caution.

Replacing the door lock knobs with ones that hide from view can create a safety hazard. In the event of an accident if they are locked or accidentally lock in a collision, no easy way exists to unlock your door (except the remote which may or may not work after the accident, or you may be unconscious and can not press the button).

When I am parked at trail heads I do put the hiding lock knobs on, but put the stock ones back before driving off. This is a pain to do, but I feel safer knowing the doors can be opened in an accident.

Tobi

What i don't understand is why the door knobs are making a difference
- any self respecting thief will have a flat blade and unlock the door
by moving it into the side next to the window and grab the mechanism
in the door, right?
Isn't it all about visual prevention anyway. Anyone who really wants
to get in the van at a trail head can just smash one of the many
windows the van has and enter that way. Just make it painfully obvious
that there is nothing to steal (e.g. leave the empty open camera bag
on the seat (big sign EMPTY on it for the dimmer bulbs)

About being robbed while sleeping in the van is a different story.
Maybe an NRA sticker (magnetic so you can remove the embarrassing
evidence in the morning) or one of those "Guns don't kill people..."
or something equally inappropriate may just do the trick. Crass
Pictograms may help to. If traveling south of the boarder, maybe in
Spanish and English, north of the border add French as needed.
rule - if someone really wants to get in the van, they will.
In Europe they had issues in many southern places that thieves use
sleep inducing gas to tranquilize people in the motorhome and then get
in and steal things. Reimo I think has gas detection kits.

Florian
03 MVWK


--- In ev_update@..., "Tobi - yahoo" <tobibenne@...> wrote:

One word of caution.

Replacing the door lock knobs with ones that hide from view can

create a safety hazard. In the event of an accident if they are
locked or accidentally lock in a collision, no easy way exists to
unlock your door (except the remote which may or may not work after
the accident, or you may be unconscious and can not press the button).

When I am parked at trail heads I do put the hiding lock knobs on,

but put the stock ones back before driving off. This is a pain to do,
but I feel safer knowing the doors can be opened in an accident.

Tobi

Good Point - I should have mentioned this because I do the same thing and yes it is definitely a pain to keep switching out the door lock knobs but like you I realized that in the case of an accident someone might not be able to get us out. So I guess I will keep switching them out whenever appropriate.

Miles

OK. Curiosity got the better of me and I had to try my padded cable
canoe tiedowns to secure the Eurovan doors.

These tiedowns come in pairs. I used one across the front between the
front door inside handles, and the second one looped around the sliding
door top post (the part that travels in the top track) and then around
and under the front underside of the passenger seat. Then I hopped out
the rear hatch.

It worked fine, but it seems like a hassle to play Houdini everytime
you need to get in and out of your own car. Plus, I'm never certain my
rear hatch will open reliably which would leave you by the side of the
road looking like an idiot. ;-)

Regards,
Duane
2000 EVC


--- In ev_update@..., "illinirocketscientist"
<websailn2@...> wrote:

I've got these padded cables for locking down canoes and kayaks.
They work well and are well made. The canoe ones are 13 feet long so
you could loop them around seats, door handles and the like. Not
sure how you'd get out of the car afterwards, though.




Duane
2000 EVC

On one of the few nights that my van was locked but not alarmed, somebody smashed the
side window and took two bags that were in there. This did not happen while camping,
but in front of my house which is in an amazingly "safe" neighborhood. Unfortunately, my
laptop was in one of the bags (although disguised) and I think they were very surprised to
find it there.

I had an alarm put on my car when I bought it because I felt that campers were sitting
ducks for breakins. I realize that may not prevent something from happening, but when
sleeping in an area I'm not completely comfortable in or parking in certain areas I do feel
safer with the alarm activated. When I'm camping around a lot of people, etc. I disarm the
alarm and just lock the door when I'm sleeping so I don't disturb other people.

Gail
2002EVC
Mill Valley, CA

i do not lock the doors while driving. but i see your point. i do have pepper spray handy.

--- In ev_update@..., "Florian" <fkahlert@...> wrote:

What i don't understand is why the door knobs are making a difference
- any self respecting thief will have a flat blade and unlock the door
by moving it into the side next to the window and grab the mechanism
in the door, right?
Isn't it all about visual prevention anyway. Anyone who really wants
to get in the van at a trail head can just smash one of the many
windows the van has and enter that way. Just make it painfully obvious
that there is nothing to steal (e.g. leave the empty open camera bag
on the seat (big sign EMPTY on it for the dimmer bulbs)

About being robbed while sleeping in the van is a different story.
Maybe an NRA sticker (magnetic so you can remove the embarrassing
evidence in the morning) or one of those "Guns don't kill people..."
or something equally inappropriate may just do the trick. Crass
Pictograms may help to. If traveling south of the boarder, maybe in
Spanish and English, north of the border add French as needed.
rule - if someone really wants to get in the van, they will.
In Europe they had issues in many southern places that thieves use
sleep inducing gas to tranquilize people in the motorhome and then get
in and steal things. Reimo I think has gas detection kits.

Florian
03 MVWK


--- In ev_update@..., "Tobi - yahoo" <tobibenne@> wrote:

One word of caution.

Replacing the door lock knobs with ones that hide from view can

create a safety hazard. In the event of an accident if they are
locked or accidentally lock in a collision, no easy way exists to
unlock your door (except the remote which may or may not work after
the accident, or you may be unconscious and can not press the button).

When I am parked at trail heads I do put the hiding lock knobs on,

but put the stock ones back before driving off. This is a pain to do,
but I feel safer knowing the doors can be opened in an accident.

Tobi

the flat blade will do the 2 front doors. i am not sure about the
slider.thats why i want a bolt or other device to keep the slider closed.
trailheads are probably hopeless, but empty shotgun shells, beer cans,
and a note that says ill be back soon might help.
i am not worried about being in the van. i have a 12g for that. and i
see nothing embarrasing about the nra.

--- In ev_update@..., "illinirocketscientist"
<websailn2@...> wrote:

OK. Curiosity got the better of me and I had to try my padded cable
canoe tiedowns to secure the Eurovan doors.

These tiedowns come in pairs. I used one across the front between the
front door inside handles, and the second one looped around the sliding
door top post (the part that travels in the top track) and then around
and under the front underside of the passenger seat. Then I hopped out
the rear hatch.

It worked fine, but it seems like a hassle to play Houdini everytime
you need to get in and out of your own car. Plus, I'm never certain my
rear hatch will open reliably which would leave you by the side of the
road looking like an idiot. ;-)

Regards,
Duane
2000 EVC


--- In ev_update@..., "illinirocketscientist"
<websailn2@> wrote:

I've got these padded cables for locking down canoes and kayaks.
They work well and are well made. The canoe ones are 13 feet long so
you could loop them around seats, door handles and the like. Not
sure how you'd get out of the car afterwards, though.




Duane
2000 EVC

this is pretty much my idea also. but why not put the cable lock on
the outside so you leave via the slider, then lock it, and return the
same way.

--- In ev_update@..., Lee Hart <leeahart@...> wrote:

forsalexxx wrote:

I did have stickers, and I did have wire mesh that was wired to the
door frame, and they cut the wires. And I had totally removed the
little plastic door lock extensions.

Ouch! It sounds like you were up against a determined thief. Was there
something visible inside that he might have thought was especially

valuable?

What do you mean by obvious locks?....and how would you rig it to
prevent opening the sliding door?

Commercial vans have aftermarket locks installed that at least *look*
more robust than the factory locks. I haven't investigated where these
come from, though.

If you flip the childproof switch on the edge of the sliding door, then
when it is locked, you can't open it from either the inside or outside
with the handle. If you also installed the flush buttons, then the only
way to unlock the door is with the key or remote button.

thank you...i did not even know there WAS a chidproof lock.

--- In ev_update@..., "jack_son_73" <jackr1@...> wrote:

Re Securing sliding door:

I've seen UPS, etc. delivery trucks with heavy
hockey puck locks, & found one on line at:

www.accessconnect.com/prodpage20.htm


"Security Locks For Car, Truck, Suv and Van - - - -
...Take a look at our line sheet . .. The THP1
hockey puck trailer door lock has a 3/8" diameter
internal shackle."

Perhaps someone makes a smaller version? - or, how
about adding a hasp & padlock inside - so it can be
seen throuh the glass?

Please let us know your solution.

Jack_son

==================================================
--In ev_update@..., Lee Hart <leeahart@> wrote:

forsalexxx wrote:

I did have stickers, and I did have wire mesh that was wired to

the

door frame, and they cut the wires. And I had totally removed the
little plastic door lock extensions.

Ouch! It sounds like you were up against a determined thief. Was

there

something visible inside that he might have thought was especially

valuable?

What do you mean by obvious locks?....and how would you rig it to
prevent opening the sliding door?

Commercial vans have aftermarket locks installed that at least

*look*

more robust than the factory locks. I haven't investigated where

these

come from, though.

If you flip the childproof switch on the edge of the sliding door,

then

when it is locked, you can't open it from either the inside or

outside

with the handle. If you also installed the flush buttons, then the

only

way to unlock the door is with the key or remote button.

how would i get out?