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I can't imagine being marooned due to a serpentine but then I work on my own vehicles.? The part is easy to get.? I carry a spare and an idler pulley.? ?But I guess you could be somewhere that had nobody willing to change a belt?? ?It's a 30 min job a beginner could do.?
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Anyway, no doubt there are other dead in the water examples that would better illustrate the point.??
 

An aside - Have there been any or many failures on trannies that are
known (monitored) to run under 220 F? I wonder sometimes if even
the aftermarket coolers are handicapped by the thermostat's flow restriction
and allow them to overheat under heavy load.
On that note, it goes without saying that everyone with a '97-up Eurovan should have a ScanGauge II mounted to their dash to monitor trans temp real-time. It will alert you immediately if the trans begins to overheat (as well as altering you to a multitude of other problems) and could easily save your trans, your engine, etc. A couple of times mine has alerted me when my trans started to overheat on a prolonged mountain pass (so I pulled over for a short time and it was fine), and once it saved me when I had an electrical problem, giving me enough time to hightail it home before nightfall. The small form factor has lots of convenient locations on the dash, and it just plugs into the OBDII port on your dash or column so no wiring is required. There is a special version with unique factory firmware specifically for Eurovans, which we stock. (It will still work on other vehicles, but the reverse is not true; the off-the-shelf version sold elsewhere has known compatibility issues with the Eurovan's OBDII system.) This is literally a must-have if you drive a Eurovan (other than the 5 cylinder ones, which won't support it) - it can pay for itself ten times over if you need it just once. <>

Ron Salmon
The Bus Depot Inc.
www.BusDepot.com
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+1 plug for the scan gauge. Best multi sys ?gauge by far. I have an older version that isn’t EV specific that works just fine w my 4-cyl 1.9l TDI and it does not have an “alert” function: ie it’s up to you the user/driver to be monitoring fastidiously to catch any aberrations that may be consequential. Maybe the newer versions that Ron carries does??
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Justin
2000 EVW 1.9TDI Syncro 5-spd
505k mi :-)
 

Great idea!? I just bought one!? Thank you!!!
 

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Steve- A serpentine belt is easy to get in some places. Not 200 miles north of Los Angeles in the Central Valley in a “town” that consisted of 5 gas stations, fast food and 2 hotels. ?The thing is, I like to go camping in remote places where it’s easy to get stuck if something goes wrong. This was basically the straw that broke the camels back.?

Dan



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On Nov 22, 2024, at 12:02?PM, Steve via groups.io <seaweedsteve@...> wrote:

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I can't imagine being marooned due to a serpentine but then I work on my own vehicles.? The part is easy to get.? I carry a spare and an idler pulley.? ?But I guess you could be somewhere that had nobody willing to change a belt?? ?It's a 30 min job a beginner could do.?
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Anyway, no doubt there are other dead in the water examples that would better illustrate the point.??
 

My general practice is to keep the "old" belt as a spare, when I get it changed. ?The idea is that I know it fits and it will likely be in good enough shape to get me to where I can get a replacement. ?Of course this means you have to do the belt change twice, in the case of an unforeseen failure. ?OTOH you don't have to spend money on a replacement until later. ?I use this scheme on ignition parts, sensors, thermostats, etc. ?I dislike being stranded for a simple part that can be swapped out in the field. ?./Mike
 

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I find the belt isn’t the issue, it’s not having the proper tool to lever the tension pulley. Both times I have done the timing belt, the serp was almost the worst part. If you don’t have that tool, what is the best method to putting new one on? I did see that tool online somewhere and it was some obnoxious cost (been a long time since I looked).


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On Nov 23, 2024, at 12:04?AM, mike.ayukawa via groups.io <mike.ayukawa@...> wrote:

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My general practice is to keep the "old" belt as a spare, when I get it changed. ?The idea is that I know it fits and it will likely be in good enough shape to get me to where I can get a replacement. ?Of course this means you have to do the belt change twice, in the case of an unforeseen failure. ?OTOH you don't have to spend money on a replacement until later. ?I use this scheme on ignition parts, sensors, thermostats, etc. ?I dislike being stranded for a simple part that can be swapped out in the field. ?./Mike
 

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Serpentine belt: no fancy tool need, just a M8 bolt. ?You can carry an extra one, or in a pinch use one of the 3 that hold the tensioner.
There's a good writeup here:?
 

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I should have been more specific…the 5 cylinder doesn’t have that bolt. VR6 definitely easy, had on my Corrado.
Sean Robinson?

On Nov 23, 2024, at 7:56?AM, Michael Diehr via groups.io <md03@...> wrote:

?Serpentine belt: no fancy tool need, just a M8 bolt. ?You can carry an extra one, or in a pinch use one of the 3 that hold the tensioner.
There's a good writeup here:?
 

Understood.? ?As far as the Rand? R, on my VR6, the only needed tool is a bolt and socket. I carry a few in the tool box.? ?But then I suspect that earlier models were different.? ?Maybe earlier parts are more rare now as well.? So the argument that these are too old might hold true for the earliest versions of the T4.? I made a point of buying a 2001+ and often forget that they are not all the same.
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As mentioned belts etc are just too easy to carry and I do on all my vehicles.? ?BUT again, I'm a DIY guy.? ?I guess I might not be swapping parts out when I pass 80.? ?Coming soon.? Hope they get the fountain of youth working soon!?
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And +1 for that scan gauge.? 100%.
 

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For the serpentine belt tool on an older Eurovan, I have a ‘93 and in a pinch fashioned a ‘tool’ using an aluminum flat bar (about 1” by .125”) from the hardware store. ?Easy to slip it in beside the tensioner and pry it open a bit to release / reinstall belt.?

On Nov 23, 2024, at 7:22?AM, Steve via groups.io <seaweedsteve@...> wrote:

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Understood.? ?As far as the Rand? R, on my VR6, the only needed tool is a bolt and socket. I carry a few in the tool box.? ?But then I suspect that earlier models were different.? ?Maybe earlier parts are more rare now as well.? So the argument that these are too old might hold true for the earliest versions of the T4.? I made a point of buying a 2001+ and often forget that they are not all the same.
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As mentioned belts etc are just too easy to carry and I do on all my vehicles.? ?BUT again, I'm a DIY guy.? ?I guess I might not be swapping parts out when I pass 80.? ?Coming soon.? Hope they get the fountain of youth working soon!?
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And +1 for that scan gauge.? 100%.

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