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EV5 timing belt
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Someone once told me that whether your timing belt breaking damages the
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engine will depend on what the car is doing at the instant it breaks. So it's certainly best to replace it before it breaks, of course. -----Original Message-----
From: Peter Jansen [mailto:pjansen@...] Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 1999 5:33 PM To: 'ev_update@...' Subject: [ev_update] Re: EV5 timing belt Even though everyone says NO, I can assure you it CAN cause damage. Such as 5 exhaust valves and one intake valve in my case. $2200, thank you very much. Definitely worth replacing it at the specified interval, as I now have learned. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ MyPoints-Free Rewards When You're Online. Start with up to 150 Points for joining! eGroups.com home: - Simplifying group communications |
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LTVess@aol.com
In a message dated 9/8/99 3:35:41 PM, pjansen@... writes:
<<Even though everyone says NO, I can assure you it CAN cause damage. Such as 5 exhaust valves and one intake valve in my case. $2200, thank you very much. Definitely worth replacing it at the specified interval, as I now have learned.>> What is the specified interval? There is no mention of it in the owner's manual except to "check the condition of the belt" at something like 60,000 miles. I asked the FLVWD about replacing the timing belt at 70,000 miles and they said to not worry about it. They said it will go for more than 100,000 miles, and if it does break, nothing will be damaged. I've had timing belts in other VWs break and nothing happen, but they were not EVs which are a different bird altogether. . . Todd |
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Harry Thompson
I can safely say based on experience that no damage occurs to the 5
cylinder Eurovan when the timing belt breaks. The VR-6 is probably an interference engine meaning the pistons would hit the valves if the timing belt broke. I believe the replacement interval is 60k. It does leave you stranded when it breaks. Has anyone done this job themselves? I replaced the front brake pads on my 93 MV this past weekend. A one hour job which turned into a 5 hour night mare due to a stuck caliper sliding pin. Harry Thompson 93 EV MV ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: . |
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gbnvic@aol.com
I just replaced my timing belt on my 93ev myself-not a fun job
(although faster once you've done it once) at 88kmiles. The serpentine belt showed very significant cracking; the timing belt showed no appreciable wear. I foolishly cranked the engine by hand while the cam was at top dead center-a sure prescription for disaster if there was an interference problem. Nothing bad happened. However, the EV uses hydraulic valve lifters, and since there was no oil pressure, the valves probably provided little "resistance", and thus were not damaged. While under acceleration with high pressure on the adjuster, interference probably can happen and cause damage. btw, I bought the 2 VW tools from Zelenda: the vibration damper holder and the serpentine tensioner pulley tool. The ~$140 investment was very well worth it, as I used both tools many times during the job. I can't imagine trying to do it with out them. I replaced the water pump at the same time, as it was going bad (faint grinding noise while running). That is the worst part of the job, as it requires removal or bending up of the back timing belt cover. I bent the cover, and in bending it back, it now rubbed the camshaft pulley. I had to wire it with aircraft safety wire to prevent the rubbing. I was unable to remove the camshaft pulley (the correct way to do the job) to get the plate out, even with a top of the line snap-on puller. Given the complexity of the job, I would either recommend either DIY if you're mechanically competent, or take it to a VW dealer with real EV experience. Even with the right tools, it is a long job, and I'm sure the labor, expecially for the water pump, is expensive. ltves-@... wrote: original article: Such as 5 exhaust valves and one intake valve in my case. $2200, thank youvery much. Definitely worth replacing it at the specified interval, as Inow have learned.>>owner's manual except to "check the condition of the belt" at something like60,000 miles. I asked the FLVWD about replacing the timing belt at 70,000miles and they said to not worry about it. They said it will go for more than100,000 miles, and if it does break, nothing will be damaged. I've hadtiming belts in other VWs break and nothing happen, but they were not EVs whichare a different bird altogether. . . |
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Chris Noeske
What is the phone number of the place that sells the tools? And how much
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were each of them. -----Original Message-----
From: gbnvic@... [mailto:gbnvic@...] Sent: Friday, November 05, 1999 5:46 AM To: ev_update@... Subject: [ev_update] Re: EV5 timing belt I just replaced my timing belt on my 93ev myself-not a fun job (although faster once you've done it once) at 88kmiles. The serpentine belt showed very significant cracking; the timing belt showed no appreciable wear. I foolishly cranked the engine by hand while the cam was at top dead center-a sure prescription for disaster if there was an interference problem. Nothing bad happened. However, the EV uses hydraulic valve lifters, and since there was no oil pressure, the valves probably provided little "resistance", and thus were not damaged. While under acceleration with high pressure on the adjuster, interference probably can happen and cause damage. btw, I bought the 2 VW tools from Zelenda: the vibration damper holder and the serpentine tensioner pulley tool. The ~$140 investment was very well worth it, as I used both tools many times during the job. I can't imagine trying to do it with out them. I replaced the water pump at the same time, as it was going bad (faint grinding noise while running). That is the worst part of the job, as it requires removal or bending up of the back timing belt cover. I bent the cover, and in bending it back, it now rubbed the camshaft pulley. I had to wire it with aircraft safety wire to prevent the rubbing. I was unable to remove the camshaft pulley (the correct way to do the job) to get the plate out, even with a top of the line snap-on puller. Given the complexity of the job, I would either recommend either DIY if you're mechanically competent, or take it to a VW dealer with real EV experience. Even with the right tools, it is a long job, and I'm sure the labor, expecially for the water pump, is expensive. ltves-@... wrote: original article: Such as 5 exhaust valves and one intake valve in my case. $2200, thank youvery much. Definitely worth replacing it at the specified interval, as Inow have learned.>>owner's manual except to "check the condition of the belt" at something like60,000 miles. I asked the FLVWD about replacing the timing belt at 70,000miles and they said to not worry about it. They said it will go for more than100,000 miles, and if it does break, nothing will be damaged. I've hadtiming belts in other VWs break and nothing happen, but they were not EVs whichare a different bird altogether. . . ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- eGroup Home: -- Free email groups at eGroups.com |
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sanae@mindspring.com
I'm forever getting ready to do this as well. Can you tell us how long
it took to do this (did you do anything else besides replace the timing belt and water pump?). Did you take any pictures? I'm hoping to talk the wife into taking a few so I can document it all, thought it might prove useful for others later. Since you were game for this project, have you by chance flushed your coolant or brake fluid... or changed the AT filter and fluid? If, so I'd be interested in hearing how they went. Jerry gbnvi-@... wrote: original article: I just replaced my timing belt on my 93ev myself-not a fun joban interference problem. Nothing bad happened. However, the EV usesvery well worth it, as I used both tools many times during the job. I can'tit requires removal or bending up of the back timing belt cover. I bentI had to wire it with aircraft safety wire to prevent the rubbing. I wasto get the plate out, even with a top of the line snap-on puller.if you're mechanically competent, or take it to a VW dealer with real EVwrites: damage. Such as5 exhaust valves and one intake valve in my case. $2200, thank youverymuch. Definitely worth replacing it at the specified interval, as Inowhave learned.>>owner's |
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brandon@cardinalventures.com
if you're mechanically competent, or take it to a VW dealer with real EVAs a hardcore Audi fan, I might also suggest that any Audi dealer or better yet, Audi-knowledgeable garage would be quite at home with the EV 5. The tools are so well known on the Audi email lists that everyone refers to them by number. Brandon Hull '91 Audi ersatz S2 www.20v.org/s2/ '00 EV MV on order |
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