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Added two photos of QCTP

 

I added two photos in regard to my Hardinge QC tool post in the photos section under my
folder 'Dan Falck'. The first photo is a shot of one of the tool holders getting milled for a
lower center height to work with the compound.

Dan


Re: Threading Gears

 

Thanks Almus, I spoke with Blueridge on some other parts mostly
handles & division collars (measurement - not sure of the correct
term)... Not inexpensive. I thought there might be another
source. Eric

--- In emcoV10lathe@..., "almus_kenter" <akenter@...>
wrote:

--- In emcoV10lathe@..., "Eric Wilson" <ericdwilson@>
wrote:

Anyone know where is the best place to purchase change gears for
a
V10P would be? Or is it better to buy commercial gears and make
them
fit?
Eric

Try Blue Ridge. They might have them. But I would recommend
that you call them several times to get them to check.

Otherwise watch and wait on ebay. I have a full set for
my V10P.

-Almus


Re: Threading Gears

almus_kenter
 

--- In emcoV10lathe@..., "Eric Wilson" <ericdwilson@...>
wrote:

Anyone know where is the best place to purchase change gears for a
V10P would be? Or is it better to buy commercial gears and make them
fit?
Eric

Try Blue Ridge. They might have them. But I would recommend
that you call them several times to get them to check.

Otherwise watch and wait on ebay. I have a full set for
my V10P.

-Almus


Threading Gears

 

Anyone know where is the best place to purchase change gears for a
V10P would be? Or is it better to buy commercial gears and make them
fit?
Eric


Re: Welcome to the V10P group.

 

Hello Barrie and Group,

Not a proud owner yet, but hoping to find a V10 in the not too distant
future... Any leads would be gratefully received.

Currently I use a couple of Unimat SL1000s: an old Selecta badged cast
iron model from the 50s (built like a tank), and a light-weight alloy
model from the late 60s.
Also I have a couple of old EW lathes from the 50s one of which
supplied parts for the refurbisnment of the other. They are just a
little bigger than the SLs at 2?"x10". The refurbed one is a rare gap
bed version which adds a little extra capacity for occassional
faceplate work.

But as usually happens (or so I'm told...) I find the need of something
with a bigger turning and milling capacity. Due to space and cash
limitations I think the V10 would be ideal.

Regards
´¡²Ô»å°ù¨¦


--- In emcoV10lathe@..., "Barrie Lever" <lancia038@...>
wrote:

Welcome to this group for enthusiasts of the fine Emco V10 series of
lathes, I will post as much information as I can into the files and
photos sections.

New members will have to be approved, this is only to try and filter
out the spam merchants, also the first message from new members will
have to be approved for the same reasons, I hope this will prevent the
rubbish that can be seen in some of the yahoo forums.

Please feel free to contribute or add information, the more the better
the group will be.

Barrie Lever


Re: 5c collet set up for S11

 

Sorry, I don't have a S11, but I do have some experience with the Bison 5C chuck on the
V10P. I use the screw on adapter plate. Instead of making everything a line to line fit and
worrying about the collets repeating every time I put the chuck on the spindle, I made a
sloppy fit and I indicate in the collet, if the work requires it. So, instead of buying the 'Set
Tru' backplate, I just slightly loosen the 3 capscrews that hold the chuck down to the
backplate slightly and then tap the chuck in while placing an indicator on a dowel pin in a
collet. It works well for me.

Dan

--- In emcoV10lathe@..., "almus_kenter" <akenter@...> wrote:


What are the options for 5c collets
in the S11? Royal no longer makes a
manual draw-bar....not that I wanted
to pay that kind of money.

So do I need to go to one of those Bison
5c collet chucks? My understanding
though is that collets that run in
the spindle are more accurate.

Blue ridge has a fast action 5c bar for
the lathe but the cost is ++insane++

Does anybody make a draw bar set up?

I see someone offers plans for one
on ebay but I think that they are just
lifted from an article from Projects
in Metal magazine. Has anyone seen this?


Thanks.

-Almus


5c collet set up for S11

almus_kenter
 

What are the options for 5c collets
in the S11? Royal no longer makes a
manual draw-bar....not that I wanted
to pay that kind of money.

So do I need to go to one of those Bison
5c collet chucks? My understanding
though is that collets that run in
the spindle are more accurate.

Blue ridge has a fast action 5c bar for
the lathe but the cost is ++insane++

Does anybody make a draw bar set up?

I see someone offers plans for one
on ebay but I think that they are just
lifted from an article from Projects
in Metal magazine. Has anyone seen this?


Thanks.

-Almus


Re: super11.....excess V10P?

 

Check the maximum amp setting on the 1 hp. If it will do 4.7 amps,
you can use it temporarily to put power to your new toy. Mine is
running on my 1 hp mill drive temporarily. I'd use the 2hp long term
though.

The Westinghouse drives have a good following. I'd pay extra for
something I was more familiar with.

--- In emcoV10lathe@..., "almus_kenter" <akenter@...> wrote:

I was thinking of getting a Westinghouse unit as I
have a 1hp unit already and figured on making use
of already having beaten the learning curve...though
the 2hp unit is 275.00


-a


Re: super11.....excess V10P?

 

The short version:

Bypass all the switches, wire the VFD outputs directly to terminals 1,
2 and 3 in the motor junction box. Leave 4, 5 and 6 unconnected.
This is the low speed side of the motor. At 60 hz, you have all the
same speeds as your low settings. Spin it to 120hz, and you have your
high speed settings. Added bonus, you have any range in between,
which is nice because its a large gap from 1100 to 2200.

This works nicely, and the motor is obviously rated for 3320 rpm,
which is what you are turning at 120 hz. You pull around 1.4 hp
across the entire speed range. If you jumper across from 4 to 5 and 5
to 6, you can make a bit more power at 60 hz, but you have to run 30
to 60 rpm. At 30 rpm on the high speed circuit, you'll be making less
than 1 hp. Using the low speed circuit is a better way to go.

I'm thinking the stock switches can be used for control. Hopefully in
the next few days I'll figure out the pinout on the big barrel switch
(B1). Should be able to use the safety disconnect to shut off power
to the drive, and use the speed selector switch to move the VFD
through preset 60 and 120 hz settings in forward and reverse. I'll
let you know when I figure out which pins will work.

If you haven't purchased a VFD yet, I'd give consideration to making
sure it has two options: remote inputs (for wiring though the barrel
switch or other switches for preset frequency) and the ability to use
a braking resistor. Threading in close to a shoulder gets easier when
you have a braking resistor.

--- In emcoV10lathe@..., "almus_kenter" <akenter@...> wrote:

Sorry for all the postings. Yes how do you deal with the 2spd
motor?


-Almus


Re: super11.....excess V10P?

almus_kenter
 

Let me know if you want some info on how to deal with the 2 speed motor.
Sorry for all the postings. Yes how do you deal with the 2spd
motor?


-Almus


Re: super11.....excess V10P?

almus_kenter
 

I'm using an Automation Direct GS2-22P0 from www.automationdirect.com.
Let me know if you want some info on how to deal with the 2 speed
motor.

I looked at that VFD unit. Pretty reasonable cost @235.00

I was thinking of getting a Westinghouse unit as I
have a 1hp unit already and figured on making use
of already having beaten the learning curve...though
the 2hp unit is 275.00


-a


Re: toolposts

almus_kenter
 

Here is a QC tool post that looks like it would fit:



Though I am not sure how "Quick" it is given
that you use a wrench.


Even the blurb says it fits the V10


-Almus


Re: super11.....excess V10P?

almus_kenter
 

--- In emcoV10lathe@..., "davedamouth" <ddamouth@...> wrote:

Would this be the recent Ebay machine from Indiana?
Illinois.

The machine is pristine. It came with a 3 jaw.
and that is about it.

It must have had a bunch of other stuff that is
lost amongst the boxes... The guy sent me
boxes of random lathe parts; stuff that
obviously does not go with this lathe.
A thread on face plate, all kinds of bizarre
tooling from other lathes.

There was tantalizing evidence of other things;
I got +one+ of the three outside jaws from the 3jaw.

a piece of the emco tool post grinder.

A wrench that goes with the collet draw bar.


Sort of tragic when you realize that all these things
that are so valuable together but
valueless by themselves.... Who wants a
single jaw for a 3 jaw?

I looked at the parts list in the files section.
GREAT help.... anyone have a manual??

-Almus


Re: super11.....excess V10P?

 

Would this be the recent Ebay machine from Indiana?

I'm currently sorting through an almost new 11 from a public school.
Seriously well built machine. Makes my old 9x20 and Atlas 12x36 seem
like toys.

Let me know if you need any pics or measurements to compare against.

I have the 4 way post. The ability to move the handle out of the way
to tighten a bolt without loosening the post is a nice touch.

I'll let you know which way things go once I get a quick change post on
it.

I'm using an Automation Direct GS2-22P0 from www.automationdirect.com.
Let me know if you want some info on how to deal with the 2 speed motor.

The exploded parts views from Barrie are in the files section. There
are several different views of the same assembly, seems the latest are
for C6E models (check your serial number) Mine is C6P-8407014, but the
C6E drawings seem pretty accurate so far.


super11.....excess V10P?

almus_kenter
 

My long quest for a super-11 has finally ended.
I managed to get a pristine unit indirectly from
a machine-shop that closed.

When I finally get it up and running I will
probably be parting with my V10P and/or Compact8.
If I manage to get the S11 in the same location
as my V10P my wife will (hopefully) never know the difference.
If anyone has any interest in the machines drop my a line.
I am located in SE New Hampshire.
Proceeds of sale will feed the tooling needs
of the S11.


Part of my motivation was to get something slightly bigger
that took standard tooling. I was getting tired of
searching for the rare L20 collet stuff, and
proprietary emco tooling. Between the
C8 and the V10 I had most of everything..
but I would often lust at all the 5C collet
stuff.


My new machine is 3PH, has an emco 3Jaw.
It is(++i think++) D1-4 cam lock.
Overall the machine is pretty bare but
it is practically in new shape. No collets,
1-3/8" spindle bore. It has the original
simple/crappy tool-post.

I will need a VFD before it comes to life.

NO manuals or documentation...so if anyone out there has a set they
could photo-copy I would be most grateful.


-Almus


Re: Upload of files

 

Ok I have sent the file to you by pm.

See what you can do with it, I only got about 8% compression with
winzip, seems like there is no problem uploading files around the
1.5Mb size but these 4Mb babes seem to bounce back.

Barr

--- In emcoV10lathe@..., "davedamouth" <ddamouth@...> wrote:

Since I'm waiting for the file anyway, you could email it to me and
let me fight with it for awhile. I should be able to figure out
something. My mailbox can handle the file size, even if yahoo can't.

Off topic: The cabinet doors are open. The doors take a skeleton key
with a 3mm pilot hole. Easy enough to mill one out of 1/4" x 1"
aluminum and grind to fit. Ugly, but doors are open.

--- In emcoV10lathe@..., "Barrie Lever" <lancia038@> wrote:

I am trying to upload a file that I had archived off of the old Super
11 site, the file is 4Mb in size but every time I try to upload it
Yahoo says that it contains no data, it does and I have also tried
zipping the file and then uploading it. I suspect that Yahoo have
changed the allowable upload size (they say upto 5Mb).

This is all the more stupid as the file was obtained from the old
Yahoo Super 11 site! I think I might try splitting the file with
Winzip as if it was being used with floppy disks, any one got any
ideas ?

Barrie


Re: toolposts

 

I also considered installing a riser on the head and tails stocks.
Anyone have thoughts on this? Does anyone know someone who did this
already to their Emco. Eric

--- In emcoV10lathe@..., "Eric Wilson" <ericdwilson@...>
wrote:

I like your idea of removing the compound slide for the QCTP.
That
makes things cleaner to install the QCTP.

Any recommendations on where to buy an AXA (100) QCTP in Ontario,
Canada at a reasonable price?

--- In emcoV10lathe@..., "ddfalck2002" <ddfalck2002@>
wrote:

I was just looking at this. It looks like the it would work, if
we could do something about
the diameter of the handwheel on the compound. If you lower the
compound much the
handwheel is going to touch the cross slide, unless you always
hang it over the edge, at 59
1/2 ¡ã.
I plan on doing something drastic to make mine work. Right now,
I
have my Harding TCTP
sitting on a solid block of steel. I have to change over to the
compound when doing
threading.

Dan


--- In emcoV10lathe@..., "Eric Wilson"
<ericdwilson@>
wrote:

I have a V10P. I was considering changing the base under the
compound
slide to lower it down. I would very much like to change to a
quick
change toolpost, but the AXA (100) series QCTP are too high.
By
making the change, I think I could gain about 1/2" on the
height.
Anyone done this?
Eric


Re: Upload of files

 

Since I'm waiting for the file anyway, you could email it to me and
let me fight with it for awhile. I should be able to figure out
something. My mailbox can handle the file size, even if yahoo can't.

Off topic: The cabinet doors are open. The doors take a skeleton key
with a 3mm pilot hole. Easy enough to mill one out of 1/4" x 1"
aluminum and grind to fit. Ugly, but doors are open.

--- In emcoV10lathe@..., "Barrie Lever" <lancia038@...> wrote:

I am trying to upload a file that I had archived off of the old Super
11 site, the file is 4Mb in size but every time I try to upload it
Yahoo says that it contains no data, it does and I have also tried
zipping the file and then uploading it. I suspect that Yahoo have
changed the allowable upload size (they say upto 5Mb).

This is all the more stupid as the file was obtained from the old
Yahoo Super 11 site! I think I might try splitting the file with
Winzip as if it was being used with floppy disks, any one got any
ideas ?

Barrie


Emco lathes on Ebay

 

Two lathes are on ebay for your interest

item no 7589980646

item no 7589980038

Quite expensive.

Barrie


Upload of files

 

I am trying to upload a file that I had archived off of the old Super
11 site, the file is 4Mb in size but every time I try to upload it
Yahoo says that it contains no data, it does and I have also tried
zipping the file and then uploading it. I suspect that Yahoo have
changed the allowable upload size (they say upto 5Mb).

This is all the more stupid as the file was obtained from the old
Yahoo Super 11 site! I think I might try splitting the file with
Winzip as if it was being used with floppy disks, any one got any ideas ?

Barrie