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Re: Maximat 7 mill head motor issues

 

Ok cool :)
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since I can’t see a centrifugal switch I’m guessing the design is for a running capacitor only,?
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It won’t hurt to put a new one on and hopefully the company looking at the ?motor return it quickly!
Re: Maximat 7 mill head motor issues

 

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1/4 to 1/3 HP motor should do OK with 30-50 microfarad starting caps and with about 6-8 microfarads for a running cap.?

Best Regards,
Andrei

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Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2025 1:39 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [emcoV10lathe] Maximat 7 mill head motor issues
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Thank you :)
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I did select a different range in ohms and got a charge in and out so it’s not totally bad but unknown as you say !
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I wonder if it’s the correct value at 8 uf
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seems a bit on the low side, If anyone knows what they have that would be great to compare known working machines ……
Re: Maximat 7 mill head motor issues

 

Thank you :)
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I did select a different range in ohms and got a charge in and out so it’s not totally bad but unknown as you say !
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I wonder if it’s the correct value at 8 uf
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seems a bit on the low side, If anyone knows what they have that would be great to compare known working machines ……
Re: Maximat 7 mill head motor issues

 

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You’ll need a special tester that can test capacitors; a simple continuity test does not accurately show you whether the cap is good or bad. Here’s a quick youtube video giving some more info:

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chris

eastern canada

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of teamricky.m via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2025 11:57 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [emcoV10lathe] Maximat 7 mill head motor issues

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Thanks chaps :)

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I am a little clearer on how to proceed…..

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the capacitor seems to be ‘open’ according to basic testing with my multimeter set to continuity chime/buzz, I don’t seem to be able to get a chirp or any type of reading….

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the motor is 1 phase

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the wires joined together are paired due to the cable having one extra core so some one just used it up ! Lol

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the information on the motor wires posted here is perfect ;) I think I can wire it back in safely.

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the key on the motor shaft is a very good point as it did fall out when I took the motor off and I remember thinking that’s a tiny part I could have lost !

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the motor has gone off to be checked out properly just in case there is an underlying problem?

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Unfortunately the Capacitor has a bit of its markings rubbed off but I think says :

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8 Uf

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400v

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not sure if it is continuous rating but in any case if that spec is correct I can get the motor repair shop to supply a new one :)

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re the spindle bearings…..Thank goodness they are ok and still tight!
Re: Maximat 7 mill head motor issues

 

Thanks chaps :)
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I am a little clearer on how to proceed…..
?
the capacitor seems to be ‘open’ according to basic testing with my multimeter set to continuity chime/buzz, I don’t seem to be able to get a chirp or any type of reading….
?
the motor is 1 phase
?
the wires joined together are paired due to the cable having one extra core so some one just used it up ! Lol
?
the information on the motor wires posted here is perfect ;) I think I can wire it back in safely.
?
the key on the motor shaft is a very good point as it did fall out when I took the motor off and I remember thinking that’s a tiny part I could have lost !
?
the motor has gone off to be checked out properly just in case there is an underlying problem?
?
Unfortunately the Capacitor has a bit of its markings rubbed off but I think says :
?
8 Uf
?
400v
?
not sure if it is continuous rating but in any case if that spec is correct I can get the motor repair shop to supply a new one :)
?
re the spindle bearings…..Thank goodness they are ok and still tight!
Re: Maximat 7 mill head motor issues

 

Hi R about torque is possibile somebody take out motor and he dont put back key in to keyway this key has small lock pin ,so take out motor and be sure this key is there ,other issue can be some of your tufnol gear has no teeth or gear on quill spindel has no key, so you have to open mill lid with motor and check up it inside ,long time a go i had similar problem just key was gone :)?good luck Roman

Hello gentlemen?
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I’m new here and new to vintage Emco machines too :)
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my background is marine engineering and I have questions about my new machine that more experienced ppl will likely know !
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First issue and the main one is the mill motor spins over but has no torque, you can stop the spindle by hand even in low gear ……
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the motor wiring looks suspect to me v’s the wiring diagram?
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at some point the 4core cable has been replaced and the coulors do not match which is a pain !
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first wire issues are two of the motor wires were joined together not per drawing, Earth ok
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so I would need a technique to I’d the wires at the motor end and replace the cable for the correct coulor code
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next question : Is there a controller for the motor or just a simple switch ?
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next question : Is there a manual for the mill only ? I have the standard manual with some details but not what I would consider a full manual / leads onto …..
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how to adjust the spindle bearings if at all possible?
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I think that covers the main points if any folk can help !
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cheers R
Re: Maximat 7 mill head motor question

 

Hi guys i would like to ask any body who own milling machine for 220V EMCOMAT 7 could you send me please picture of capacitor and if you have motor data plate please ,or use this mill similar capacitor like use mill for maximat 10 ,thankyou guys for help ,my regards Roman

Hi Rick

I think Chris has answered you as to the most likely problem being the capacitor if the wiring is correct

Make sure you get a “motor run” capacitor i.e continuous duty

Inso far as the wiring is concened don’t get too fussed about the colours

The 240V motor has 3 windings all the same plus an earth

One winding is connected to Neutral

The second winding is connected to Line

The third winding is connected via a capacitor also to Line

This is reflected in the picture in the manual

Hope this makes sense

There is no separate manual for the mill that I have seen so if any member has one please scan it for us ?

The mill is controlled by the white button switch on the far right of the switch bank

Regards,

Carvel


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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of teamricky.m via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2025 1:26 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [emcoV10lathe] Maximat 7 mill head motor issues

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Hello gentlemen?

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I’m new here and new to vintage Emco machines too :)

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my background is marine engineering and I have questions about my new machine that more experienced ppl will likely know !

?

First issue and the main one is the mill motor spins over but has no torque, you can stop the spindle by hand even in low gear ……

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the motor wiring looks suspect to me v’s the wiring diagram?

?

at some point the 4core cable has been replaced and the coulors do not match which is a pain !

?

first wire issues are two of the motor wires were joined together not per drawing, Earth ok

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so I would need a technique to I’d the wires at the motor end and replace the cable for the correct coulor code

?

next question : Is there a controller for the motor or just a simple switch ?

?

next question : Is there a manual for the mill only ? I have the standard manual with some details but not what I would consider a full manual / leads onto …..

?

how to adjust the spindle bearings if at all possible?

?

I think that covers the main points if any folk can help !

?

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cheers R
Re: Maximat 7 mill head motor issues

 

Mill (if it's 4 speed model) should only have 4 wires and none should be shorted together. One must be hardwired to the motor body, so should be easy to find. Other 3 are equals in 3ph motors but are different in 1ph motors so it depends on what you have. Posting your motor nameplate picture is a good starting point.
Single phase mill is normally controlled by a somewhat complicated switch. Three phase one is a simple switch. You can use a VFD on a 3ph model, on a 1ph you cannot (you would need a pretty rare type of VFD).
There are plenty of manuals in the files section. Not sure there is one specifically for the FB-1 mill but you can scrape the info together from different sources for sure.
Spindle bearings on the mill are not adjustable. You can replace top ones, bottom one has inner race integrated with the spindle and would be PITA to service. Lathe spindle can be adjujsted, look for keyword "preload" in the old topics


Regards

Vedran


On Tue, Apr 29, 2025 at 1:26?PM teamricky.m via <teamricky.m=[email protected]> wrote:
Hello gentlemen?
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I’m new here and new to vintage Emco machines too :)
?
my background is marine engineering and I have questions about my new machine that more experienced ppl will likely know !
?
First issue and the main one is the mill motor spins over but has no torque, you can stop the spindle by hand even in low gear ……
?
the motor wiring looks suspect to me v’s the wiring diagram?
?
at some point the 4core cable has been replaced and the coulors do not match which is a pain !
?
first wire issues are two of the motor wires were joined together not per drawing, Earth ok
?
so I would need a technique to I’d the wires at the motor end and replace the cable for the correct coulor code
?
next question : Is there a controller for the motor or just a simple switch ?
?
next question : Is there a manual for the mill only ? I have the standard manual with some details but not what I would consider a full manual / leads onto …..
?
how to adjust the spindle bearings if at all possible?
?
I think that covers the main points if any folk can help !
?
?
cheers R
Re: Maximat 7 mill head motor issues

 

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Hi Rick

I think Chris has answered you as to the most likely problem being the capacitor if the wiring is correct

Make sure you get a “motor run” capacitor i.e continuous duty

Inso far as the wiring is concened don’t get too fussed about the colours

The 240V motor has 3 windings all the same plus an earth

One winding is connected to Neutral

The second winding is connected to Line

The third winding is connected via a capacitor also to Line

This is reflected in the picture in the manual

Hope this makes sense

There is no separate manual for the mill that I have seen so if any member has one please scan it for us ?

The mill is controlled by the white button switch on the far right of the switch bank

Regards,

Carvel


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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of teamricky.m via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2025 1:26 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [emcoV10lathe] Maximat 7 mill head motor issues

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Hello gentlemen?

?

I’m new here and new to vintage Emco machines too :)

?

my background is marine engineering and I have questions about my new machine that more experienced ppl will likely know !

?

First issue and the main one is the mill motor spins over but has no torque, you can stop the spindle by hand even in low gear ……

?

the motor wiring looks suspect to me v’s the wiring diagram?

?

at some point the 4core cable has been replaced and the coulors do not match which is a pain !

?

first wire issues are two of the motor wires were joined together not per drawing, Earth ok

?

so I would need a technique to I’d the wires at the motor end and replace the cable for the correct coulor code

?

next question : Is there a controller for the motor or just a simple switch ?

?

next question : Is there a manual for the mill only ? I have the standard manual with some details but not what I would consider a full manual / leads onto …..

?

how to adjust the spindle bearings if at all possible?

?

I think that covers the main points if any folk can help !

?

?

cheers R
Re: Maximat 7 mill head motor issues

 

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You might want to look at the mill capacitor in the back of the headstock. Mine went out a few years ago and that was the issue. I ended up finding a replacement at our local hvac supplier

Chris
Eastern canada?

Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada’s largest network.

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of teamricky.m via groups.io <teamricky.m@...>
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2025 8:26:09 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: [emcoV10lathe] Maximat 7 mill head motor issues
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Hello gentlemen?
?
I’m new here and new to vintage Emco machines too :)
?
my background is marine engineering and I have questions about my new machine that more experienced ppl will likely know !
?
First issue and the main one is the mill motor spins over but has no torque, you can stop the spindle by hand even in low gear ……
?
the motor wiring looks suspect to me v’s the wiring diagram?
?
at some point the 4core cable has been replaced and the coulors do not match which is a pain !
?
first wire issues are two of the motor wires were joined together not per drawing, Earth ok
?
so I would need a technique to I’d the wires at the motor end and replace the cable for the correct coulor code
?
next question : Is there a controller for the motor or just a simple switch ?
?
next question : Is there a manual for the mill only ? I have the standard manual with some details but not what I would consider a full manual / leads onto …..
?
how to adjust the spindle bearings if at all possible?
?
I think that covers the main points if any folk can help !
?
?
cheers R
Re: Maximat 7 mill head motor issues

 

I’ve added some pics to the group photo gallery :)
Maximat 7 mill head motor issues

 

Hello gentlemen?
?
I’m new here and new to vintage Emco machines too :)
?
my background is marine engineering and I have questions about my new machine that more experienced ppl will likely know !
?
First issue and the main one is the mill motor spins over but has no torque, you can stop the spindle by hand even in low gear ……
?
the motor wiring looks suspect to me v’s the wiring diagram?
?
at some point the 4core cable has been replaced and the coulors do not match which is a pain !
?
first wire issues are two of the motor wires were joined together not per drawing, Earth ok
?
so I would need a technique to I’d the wires at the motor end and replace the cable for the correct coulor code
?
next question : Is there a controller for the motor or just a simple switch ?
?
next question : Is there a manual for the mill only ? I have the standard manual with some details but not what I would consider a full manual / leads onto …..
?
how to adjust the spindle bearings if at all possible?
?
I think that covers the main points if any folk can help !
?
?
cheers R
EMCO MAXIMAT STANDARD for SALE

 

Hi Guys , one very nice lady's? husband passed away and she woould like sale his lathes and some tools because house is toobig for her and she would like buy smaller so most tools? should go , price shi wand is 500 pound included tools for lathe ,other tools have individual price , lathe is power by 220v motor ,lathe need some TLC like every old lathe .She life in Scotland near Glasgow airport +- 20 min fare ,if somebody is interesting let me know my regards Roman? ?

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Re: FB2 milling attachment or complete FB2 wanted please

 

Hi Ollya try facebook there is groupe specializate for 6 speed mill for emco FB2?

so i belive you can quickly find somebody who will know about this mill you looking for?regards Roman


Hi I'd really like the 6 speed FB2 mill attachment to go on my V10P rather than the 4 speed one.
Is anyone selling one please?
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Aren't there some copies too - anyone know what they're called please?
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new V10P owner based in Aylesbury, UK
FB2 milling attachment or complete FB2 wanted please

 

Hi I'd really like the 6 speed FB2 mill attachment to go on my V10P rather than the 4 speed one.
Is anyone selling one please?
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Aren't there some copies too - anyone know what they're called please?
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new V10P owner based in Aylesbury, UK
Selling my imeprial quadrant for maximat v10

 

Hello.
Got this with my metric maximat v10.
Don't cut imperial threads, so it's up for grabs.
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Thank you and best regards
Re: question about email comunication

 

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All

We are not aware of any problems with the Group Email

Just assumed everyone was having a break ?

On that note Happy Easter / Easter weekend everyone ?

Regards,

Carvel

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Co-moderator

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of roman fox via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2025 5:34 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [emcoV10lathe] question about email comunication

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Hi Andrei, i hope all have holiday and this is only this reason?B-):-D.
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Datum: 20. 4. 2025 15:48:54
P?edmět: Re: [emcoV10lathe] question about email comunication

I went to the group home and it looks like there were very few messages in April (only about 20).

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Best Regards,

Andrei

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Dan B via groups.io <molliemixer@...>
Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2025 10:42 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [emcoV10lathe] question about email comunication

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I too have not received many emails lately, and I just assume that it is because there has been a lack of activity. Looking at the "Messages" section for this group, there has been what appears to be very little activity lately.?

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DanB USA
Re: question about email comunication

 

Hi Andrei, i hope all have holiday and this is only this reason?B-):-D.

I went to the group home and it looks like there were very few messages in April (only about 20).

Best Regards,
Andrei

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Dan B via groups.io <molliemixer@...>
Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2025 10:42 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [emcoV10lathe] question about email comunication
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I too have not received many emails lately, and I just assume that it is because there has been a lack of activity. Looking at the "Messages" section for this group, there has been what appears to be very little activity lately.?
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DanB USA
Re: question about email comunication

 

Hi Dan i soo it too there ,but normaly during weekend is here very bussy here?:-DB-)?and i hope is like you suggest .
regards Roman

I too have not received many emails lately, and I just assume that it is because there has been a lack of activity. Looking at the "Messages" section for this group, there has been what appears to be very little activity lately.?
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DanB USA
Re: question about email comunication

 

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I went to the group home and it looks like there were very few messages in April (only about 20).

Best Regards,
Andrei

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Dan B via groups.io <molliemixer@...>
Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2025 10:42 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [emcoV10lathe] question about email comunication
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I too have not received many emails lately, and I just assume that it is because there has been a lack of activity. Looking at the "Messages" section for this group, there has been what appears to be very little activity lately.?
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DanB USA
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