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Re: Off topic, I will delete in a day or so.


wn4isx
 

I apologize, I thought the helium kills MEMS oscillators to be vaguely related to electronics but not related enough to stay "live" and intended to provide enough information for those interested in a relatively obscure failure mode of a device that is growing in popularity to be worthwhile posting.
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In the future I will try to only post stuff I consider valuable and relevant enough to remain live.
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My 'I won't delete' stuff wasn't about my own posts it was about posts with what I consider to be directly in violation of either US law or Groups IO rules.
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A "go here to steal this copyrighted material" falls under both categories. Even if the poster didn't fully appreciate the full legal ramifications of the post.
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I talked with a lawyer about a family legal mater, I own about 50 acres in Eastern Kentucky I want to donate to a trust for that side of my family. The land is worthless, no minerals, farmed to exhaustion by the wrong farming techniques, home to way too many copperheads, but the land has been in our family since a Revolutionary War land grant. I'm 73, have no children and wanted to protect the land after I'm gone. At 73 with total knee replacements in both knees, the chances of me ever hiking there again are remote.
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Our family lawyer is a junior partner in a local firm, she's also a cousin. She brought in a senior lawyer to discus possible conflict of interest because she owns the adjacent ~50 acres and wants to place her land in the same trust.
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The senior lawyer's specialty is intellectual property so I asked about the link to allow direct access to IEEE papers and was told that link was illegal and would be viewed in a copyright suit as furthering a criminal enterprise and the person posting it could well face criminal charges and a civil tort with significant financial losses. Group IO could have received a 'take down order' for this entire group.
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Of course I have no idea what the odds are the IEEE would ever find out, or if they are as draconian as some reports suggest, so I played it safe. an act I regret more then you can possibly understand or accept. If I had it to do over, I'd comment mentally to myself and carry on ignoring the post.
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My "I won't delete" applied to any post by anyone other then myself if I have reason to believe it violates the law or Groups IO rules. I will not delete anyone else's post if it includes detailed directions for obvious criminal acts such as "This is how to run a drug ring." This group is on it's own from me for that perspective.
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In the future I will try to refrain from posting topics that relate to electronics but are not clearly part of this groups mission, or might have a very small group interested in some arcane topic, as I understand it.
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In spite of my "I won't delete" if I realize I post something that violates Group IO policy, criminal law, or places me at risk of a civil tort, I will delete such posts without hesitation.
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However I doubt that will ever happen because I am extremely careful about the links I post.
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Sidebar as they said during a widely publicized trial....
When my department got our first Internet access, Bill Clinton had just given a speech and I was asked to find it. So I typed in Whitehouse.xxx, not knowing anything about domains I had no idea the proper domain would have been ".gov". Instead I brought up a webpage with naked women leaning out of every window in a photo of the Whitehouse. The entire office staff was there, 3 female producers, and 4 female administrative assistants. I froze in shock and disbelief for about 30 seconds before fumbling for the power switch and eventually turning the PC off. I was told later my freckles looked like dots of black ink against my white skin. We were visited by the 'campus porn patrol' later that day and given a stern warning about accessing such sites. The division head made it clear it was an innocent error, that none of us understood the xxx part of a webpage.
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So I accept being careful isn't always enough.
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It is possible, though extremely unlikely, I'll mess up the xxx and place a link to somewhere I don't mean to by accident, or a typo in the header of an address which could lead someplace unwanted.. Or a web page creator could let his lease expire and someone else take over who might post odd stuff. I'll admit if the later happens sometime after I make a post I'll probably never know about it unless someone flames me for the link. If I find out about such an incident, I will delete my post without hesitation.
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Again, please accept my apology and a promise to never ever post "OT will delete in x days" again along with a promise not to play Group IO's watchman and censor.
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If I post something I intend for it to remain online until Groups IO goes away.
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The only other exception to the "I won't delete' I can think of might be if I decided to leave this group, then I reserve the right under US copyright law to protect my material by deleting it. Since I'm not planning on leaving, that is unlikely and frankly I don't see that anything I've written and posted online in any group is worth that much effort.
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Without getting into the weeds or being accused of practicing law, under US Copyright law, the person who writes something other then a set of data owns what they wrote. There is no requirement to file a copyright form and copy of the material with the library of congress or to specifically claim copyright pm the work, the act of creating it makes it protected under US law.? ]paraphrased from the US Copyright office[
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J.D. Salinger, of Catcher in the Rye, stopped publication of letters he wrote based on the fact he owned the copyright of said letters.
[note the law then required filing forms to obtain copyright ownership.]
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Not that anyone would be the least bit interesting in collecting much less publishing the wit and wisdom of wn4isx.
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