Re: Recommendation for 48 v inboard motor + generator.
Have you looked into the Victron Quattro Charger/Inverters? There are models that can output up to 140 amps at 48V. This would allow use of less expensive, AC generators. Then you would have AC power
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ChristopherH
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Re: Recommendation for 48 v inboard motor + generator.
Thanks Dan. You're a trove of good information!
Have you had any issues with the ME1616?
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Robert McArthur
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Re: Recommendation for 48 v inboard motor + generator.
I have not built the genset yet. It was suggested to me by one of the engineers at Thunderstruck that I could do it with the ME1616 with a rectifier and regulator. But I have not researched it any
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Dan Pfeiffer
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Re: Re Power for SV/Retreat Time Catamaran
John,
Looking back and wondered how things went for you?
We have a 35,000lb, 12.5:1 L:B power cat, 50' x 17' which runs 23" x 18"
props.
At 750rpm (1500rpm using 2:1 reduction) we get about 7kn using
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Robert McArthur
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Re: Recommendation for 48 v inboard motor + generator.
Dan (and anyone else who wants to explain!),
Delving back a little...
I just got a quote from one of the few marine DC genset places, and
unfortunately it matches what I could find from the others -
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Robert McArthur
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Re: Newbie - 20+ foot boat for wide/long river in Guyana, South America
I agree with Eric. That said, more and more electric outboards are coming on the market and prices should become competitive.
Building your own battery saves thousands if not tens of thousands of
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Reuben Trane
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Re: Newbie - 20+ foot boat for wide/long river in Guyana, South America
Thanks Eric, Reuben
This is really interesting. The summary below is perfect. It looks like the electric conversion cost has to drop significantly in order for this to be a feasible,
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rragbeer@...
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Re: Newbie - 20+ foot boat for wide/long river in Guyana, South America
Reuben is getting closer to what might be required.
Raj, is your regular trip 30 miles round trip or one way?
In either case, your current boat converted to Torqeedo power as suggested will have a
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Eric
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Re: Newbie - 20+ foot boat for wide/long river in Guyana, South America
Your 75HP could be replaced with a 55kW motor and produce the same types of speed with similar (or same) boat and loads.
Let’s assume 50kWh for your 1-hour round trip. That would be the size of
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Reuben Trane
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Re: Newbie - 20+ foot boat for wide/long river in Guyana, South America
I currently have a 75HP two stroke on a custom built wooden 20 ft deep V. We use this for almost every trip now.
Thanks
Raj
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2023 4:52 PM
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rragbeer@...
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Re: Newbie - 20+ foot boat for wide/long river in Guyana, South America
The basic ratio developed by this group almost 15 years ago, and used widely across the industry now is: 1kW/ton to achieve 95% hull speed. ?For my boat, Bermuda 30, full keel ketch, 10,800#
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Eric
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Re: Newbie - 20+ foot boat for wide/long river in Guyana, South America
One more question - with the load you carry (persons and gear) - how much HP do you now require to go the speed you want and size and type of current boat.
a deep V hull is not needed for river
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Reuben Trane
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Re: Splitting 48V System Into Two Boxes?
I want to say thanks to all of you for the depth of knowledge and the thought you all put into your responses.
I will reply with some pics when I install over the next couple weeks.
Aaron Smith
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aaron smith
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Re: Newbie - 20+ foot boat for wide/long river in Guyana, South America
For a reference point, hull speed for a 30 foot boat is about 9mph ->so over 3 hours for the trip.? At hull speed a very conventional electric boat could have the range at a very reasonable price.?
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Re: Newbie - 20+ foot boat for wide/long river in Guyana, South America
Raj,
Besides William Atkin, I suggest you look at the designs of Phil Bolger. In some ways they are kindred spirits, a generation or so apart. Both were very practical designers.
Some people
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Greg DeCowsky
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Re: Newbie - 20+ foot boat for wide/long river in Guyana, South America
Hi Reuben
I have not yet finalized on a boat size. The more information I collect, especially from the responses I have had so far, I am more I am inclined to consider a vessel which I can use for
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rragbeer@...
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Re: Newbie - 20+ foot boat for wide/long river in Guyana, South America
I’m an advocate for electric propulsion. Before being able to offer any suggestions, one needs a bit more info.
1. How big a boat are you considering?
2. What speed do you want to go and for how
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Reuben Trane
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Re: Newbie - 20+ foot boat for wide/long river in Guyana, South America
Raj,
There was an article in Professional Boat Builder about someone who created an electric catamaran for service similar to your short trips. It was highlighted on the
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Terry Slattery
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Re: Newbie - 20+ foot boat for wide/long river in Guyana, South America
I will be carrying about 8 persons max plus likely one piece luggage each. The typical load will be 2 to 3 persons.
The boat does not have to be big, heavy and fast. I do have a 23 foot
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rragbeer@...
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Re: Newbie - 20+ foot boat for wide/long river in Guyana, South America
Thank you Greg. This is a great link and does open up new ideas and a different approach. I’ll investigate further.
Raj
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2023 10:48 AM
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rragbeer@...
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