Ang.:Re: Ang.:Re: [electricboats] Sizing motor for 45-50¡¯ boats
Nice setup, Steve !You wrote :??"places the biggest bearing where it will take the forward thrust".Ther might be situations, where you will need the use of full reverse (when anchoring), but
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Carsten
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Re: Material Choices
Carsten, That'll do. Always good to know. Thanks. At first glance to my novice eye the specs the material you specified looks fairly tough to machine. Is the comparative machining issue with SS due to
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Dan Pfeiffer
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Re: Ang.:Re: [electricboats] Sizing motor for 45-50¡¯ boats
Amazing thoughts! Thank you so much for all this information. I'm plodding along an slowly progressing.? Here are my existing thoughts. Dan, I'm planning on riffing from your plans, spinning the
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Steven Borg
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Re: Material Choices (was:Sizing motor for 45-50¡¯ boats)
Hey guys FaceTime my understanding of working with springs for many years I would worry about stress corrosion machining stainless steel and using it underwater unless you passivated after. Any pieces
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Phil Costello
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Re: Material Choices (was:Sizing motor for 45-50¡¯ boats)
Educated machinist at a nuclear test facility in Denmark. Worked as production planner and programmer of CNC multiple axis lathes and milling machines for 18 yearsSwitched to large marine producers,
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Carsten
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Material Choices (was:Sizing motor for 45-50¡¯ boats)
I found this info: https://steelnavigator.ovako.com/steel-grades/34crnimo6/ Is a 4340 a similar alloy? I can get that from McMaster. Cost is the about the same as SS. How hard will it machine in my
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Dan Pfeiffer
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Re: Sizing motor for 45-50¡¯ boats
We used the thrust bearing from Aqua Drive on 25kW motors. http://www.aquadriveusa.com/articles/pdf/passagemaker_may-june2008-aqd.pdf
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Reuben Trane
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Re: Ang.:Re: [electricboats] Sizing motor for 45-50¡¯ boats
Hi, Dan I will suggest 34CrNiMo6 alloy for your shaft.
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Carsten
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Re: Ang.:Re: [electricboats] Sizing motor for 45-50¡¯ boats
That drawing I sent was a bit old. There are ongoing revisions as I sort out design issues. MOUNTING PLATE I chose aluminum for the motor plate/reduction gear for a couple reasons. Mostly it's easier
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Dan Pfeiffer
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Re: Ang.:Re: [electricboats] Sizing motor for 45-50¡¯ boats
Dan, I have reviewed your drawings. Very interesting, a hybrid boat ! When you are using a toothbelt drive, you actually don't need a Drivesaver, as the toothbelt will slip or break in a crash-stop
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Carsten
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Re: Ang.:Re: [electricboats] Sizing motor for 45-50¡¯ boats
Carsten, Can you elaborate? What kind of steel would you recommend for the short shaft on the reduction gear? And you thin the SS hub is not worth the added expense? I can certainly paint all this
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Dan Pfeiffer
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Re: Sizing motor for 45-50¡¯ boats
Eniquest in Australia may be able to help. [email protected]> wrote:
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Robert McArthur
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Re: Sizing motor for 45-50¡¯ boats
Dan, this is an incredibly useful reply! Thank you!! I really like your approach, especially since I don't have an intermediate location to put an inline thrust bearing. (Although it wouldn't be hard
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Steven Borg
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Re: Sizing motor for 45-50¡¯ boats
Either that, or your reduction ratio is not right. Need to get your motor turning a fast as possible when fully loaded. This will reduce motor amps which equates to heat. At full load I see around 40
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ChristopherH
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Re: Sizing motor for 45-50¡¯ boats
Your speed / amp draw chart looks right on. My 10 kwt system on 48 volts starts *heating* up above 3.5 knots and 20 min. on my 34 foot trawler turning the big prop. Had a conversation with Canadian
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orest iwaszko
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Re: Ang.:Re: [electricboats] Sizing motor for 45-50¡¯ boats
Thanks, Dan ! Save your money on stainless (exept the shaft part from cutless bearing to prop).You have an inboard, and mechanical properties of good ol "rusty" steel are usually better than ss. Could
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Carsten
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Re: Sizing motor for 45-50¡¯ boats
I have also spent a lot of time looking for thrust bearing options. That Python Drive looks like a great solution where there is room to fit it. Looks like it will leave some room in the wallet too.
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Dan Pfeiffer
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Re: Ang.:Re: [electricboats] Sizing motor for 45-50¡¯ boats
(sorry if this is a repeat - I posted it 8hrs ago and it never showed up) I have also spent a lot of time looking for thrust bearing options. That Python Drive looks like a great solution where there
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Dan Pfeiffer
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Re: Sizing motor for 45-50¡¯ boats
I've been searching for a used telcom generator but haven't found a deal yet. 48V DC generators aren't that common but I've still got time. Can't buy anything until I sell the house.
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twowheelinguy
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Re: Sizing motor for 45-50¡¯ boats
Have you sourced the 8kW 48vdc generator?
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Reuben Trane
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