Re: Elco vs ePropulsion
The only time and situation I¡¯ve seen people use model airplane props for hydro propulsion was for pedal powered kayaks on Vancouver Island back in 1996. The homemade propulsion units were based on
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Myles Twete
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#32192
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Re: Elco vs ePropulsion
I first did some boat speed and electrical power measurements using the stock prop that came with the motor, to get a performance baseline.
I read an article that said prop efficiency increases with
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cpcanoesailor
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Re: Elco vs ePropulsion
I would love to know how much speed you get from that prop. From the literature I have read and the theory that eprop borrowed from torq. Is the 6 is still only designed for the same top end speed as
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63urban
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Re: Elco vs ePropulsion
Has anybody tried or know how to pick a model airplane prop for electric outboard?Thx?
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sw
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Re: Elco vs ePropulsion
I went with the Navy 6, even though it's a bit big for my skiff, because it offered both high torque and high pitch 3 blade prop options. I would have preferred the lighter/less expensive Navy 3, but
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F. Neil
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Re: Elco vs ePropulsion
Steve,
I think a lot of it has to do with location. St Thomas tends to collect a lot of ruined boats, dreams, and peeps! Guys get a boat in the states, load up the significant other and head out.
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shredderf16
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Re: Elco vs ePropulsion
Matt,
Yes the boat is very efficient. Craig Clos in Australia designed it. He's a retired guy whose hobby is hydrodynamics. He recently finished an 8 meter long cabin cruiser with all the
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shredderf16
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Re: Elco vs ePropulsion
Thanks I will look into themSent from my Bell Samsung device over Canada's largest network.
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63urban
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Re: Elco vs ePropulsion
For a small, easily driven boat, look at APC props. They produce mostly for the R/C airplane market, but have also started producing marine props for human-propelled boats (used by some R2AK
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cpcanoesailor
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Re: Elco vs ePropulsion
Ray motors are old design but I find them very reliable. I have a 60V on a
24 ft pontoon. Years without any trouble. I would do a 48V next time
though.
Harry M
wrote:
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Harry Michalowski
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Re: Elco vs ePropulsion
I looked into elco eprop and torqueedo. I went with eprop but have not been able to use it yet.I went with the navy 30 which is more than I need for my little trimaran.Do we know anyone custom
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63urban
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Re: Elco vs ePropulsion
That¡¯s interesting about all the inoperative torqueedos. I¡¯d be interested to hear what the failures are. They are pretty highly regarded from what I¡¯ve seen. Also interested to hear why the
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steve sawtelle
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Re: Elco vs ePropulsion
Update: I¡¯m excited. I just placed an order for new brushes for my original ETEK motor. Found that Thunderstruck has them again. We¡¯ll see if they fit.
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2022 11:46
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Myles Twete
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Re: Elco vs ePropulsion
On the PM brush motors similar to the ETEK, this is a decent read:
A Short Primer on the History of the Etek Motor, and Other Tales | The Electric Chronicles: Power in Flux (wordpress.com)
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Myles Twete
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Re: Elco vs ePropulsion
Hi Jerry,
Did you say what kind of boat you have? 10 knots at 700 watts sounds like a dream. I imagine 700 watts is the propulsive power At the prop? So motor watts will be something like 1200?
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Matt Foley
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Re: Elco vs ePropulsion
Miles and F Neil,
Thanks for the info. For the 12 foot dinghy I have a 1.2 kw Hang Kai, which like the Elco is a gas lower end modification. Small prop. I've looked around St Thomas at what people
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shredderf16
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Re: Elco vs ePropulsion
I can¡¯t imagine that the drive efficiency loss thru the ¡°90 degree turn from drive shaft to prop¡± amounts to much. The big loss is in using a small prop.
My outboard conversion has served me
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Myles Twete
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Re: Elco vs ePropulsion
Sorry, that post was supposed to be a reply to the "3-5 Kw 48v motor" thread...
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F. Neil
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Elco vs ePropulsion
I would recommend checking out the ePropulsion outboards. I first bought an Elco 9.9 and was not happy with the noise and low efficiency. I then bought an ePropulsion Navy 6.0, which is much quieter,
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F. Neil
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Re: 3-5 Kw 48v motor
Guys,
I'm looking for a raw motor and controller. I'm going to do the Elco if it gets too hard. Advantages to long shaft are that I can gear it way down and use big model airplane props to figure out
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shredderf16
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