Re: Horrible charging experience in Half Moon Bay
Half Moon Bay is a disaster for EVs. As a tourist spot for people from the valley there should be way more DC fast chargers there, and there should also be a Tesla supercharger (but I won’t hold my breath for that after this past week’s news). At least there are more chargers in the Santa Cruz area…
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On May 5, 2024, at 6:57?PM, Peter Blackford <priuspete@...> wrote:
? Just wondering if PlugShare is still a viable option in that area...??? Or anywhere?? Signed up years ago ( driving electric for 12 years), and have seen a few guests at our Level 2, but never needed to search for one. I had it all planned out to drive my 2019 Nissan LEAF from Sunnyvale to Pescadero and back (with a few other stops along the way). I knew there were several chargers, including 2 EVGo DC Fast Chargers in Half Moon Bay, so that got added to my plan. ? Unfortunately, both EVGo fast chargers were “under maintenance”, as was the Level 2 charger nearby. I headed to a nearby “available” Chargepoint charger, and once I got there, one of the two ports was free, but when trying to use it, the charger kept emitting 3 beeps every second and would not work. ? With four failed attempts in a row, it’s no wonder that people who are on the fence about whether or not to buy an EV may have doubts. I have been a diehard EV advocate since 2011, but today was definitely a highly unpleasant (and scary) experience. I ended up crawling on the freeway, as luckily, my “Very low battery charge” warning lasted nearly 10 miles. By the way, is there some sort of device (a GIDs counter, perhaps) that would give me a more accurate battery charge level? ? Thanks for listening… ? ???? Zz??????
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Re: Horrible charging experience in Half Moon Bay
Mark,
Half Moon Bay is yet another one of the reasons that I ended up buying a Kona, so I can drive all over the Bay Area without needing to recharge. After ten years of going to that town in my i-MiEV, it had again became an 'adventure', after years of reliable charging station availability there.
Even though there are many more stations listed in the town than in past years, their reliability sucks - just check out the PlugShare scores.
EA (by BofA) still shows their single CHAdeMO station inoperable, for months. EVgo used to be very reliable (and Mavericks restaurant has great crepes), but they've let that entire complex disintegrate in the last couple of years and are now showing everything is down. Each of the previously-reliable ChargePoint stations in town now has issues... and we now have more demand than ever... (sigh)
We're back to the old days, when venturing outside of one's round-trip range requires advance planning, with all options along the way identified. PlugShare is still our best friend.
Be sure to carry a portable EVSE with plenty of adapters, although I have yet to eat crow and approach a gas station with an extension cord in hand... ;-)
Glad you made it home ok.
JoeS.
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On May 5, 2024, at 18:43, Mark Robichek <robichek@...> wrote:
I had it all planned out to drive my 2019 Nissan LEAF from Sunnyvale to Pescadero and back (with a few other stops along the way). I knew there were several chargers, including 2 EVGo DC Fast Chargers in Half Moon Bay, so that got added to my plan.
Unfortunately, both EVGo fast chargers were “under maintenance”, as was the Level 2 charger nearby. I headed to a nearby “available” Chargepoint charger, and once I got there, one of the two ports was free, but when trying to use it, the charger kept emitting 3 beeps every second and would not work.
With four failed attempts in a row, it’s no wonder that people who are on the fence about whether or not to buy an EV may have doubts. I have been a diehard EV advocate since 2011, but today was definitely a highly unpleasant (and scary) experience. I ended up crawling on the freeway, as luckily, my “Very low battery charge” warning lasted nearly 10 miles. By the way, is there some sort of device (a GIDs counter, perhaps) that would give me a more accurate battery charge level?
Thanks for listening…
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Re: Horrible charging experience in Half Moon Bay
Just wondering if PlugShare is still a viable option in that area...??? Or anywhere?? Signed up years ago ( driving electric for 12 years), and have seen a few guests at our Level 2, but never needed to search for one.
I had it all planned out to drive my 2019 Nissan LEAF from Sunnyvale to Pescadero and back (with a few other stops along the way). I knew there were several chargers, including 2 EVGo DC Fast Chargers in Half Moon Bay, so that got added to my plan. ? Unfortunately, both EVGo fast chargers were “under maintenance”, as was the Level 2 charger nearby. I headed to a nearby “available” Chargepoint charger, and once I got there, one of the two ports was free, but when trying to use it, the charger kept emitting 3 beeps every second and would not work. ? With four failed attempts in a row, it’s no wonder that people who are on the fence about whether or not to buy an EV may have doubts. I have been a diehard EV advocate since 2011, but today was definitely a highly unpleasant (and scary) experience. I ended up crawling on the freeway, as luckily, my “Very low battery charge” warning lasted nearly 10 miles. By the way, is there some sort of device (a GIDs counter, perhaps) that would give me a more accurate battery charge level? ? Thanks for listening… ? ???? Zz??????
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Horrible charging experience in Half Moon Bay
I had it all planned out to drive my 2019 Nissan LEAF from Sunnyvale to Pescadero and back (with a few other stops along the way). I knew there were several chargers, including 2 EVGo DC Fast Chargers in Half Moon Bay, so that got added to my plan. ? Unfortunately, both EVGo fast chargers were “under maintenance”, as was the Level 2 charger nearby. I headed to a nearby “available” Chargepoint charger, and once I got there, one of the two ports was free, but when trying to use it, the charger kept emitting 3 beeps every second and would not work. ? With four failed attempts in a row, it’s no wonder that people who are on the fence about whether or not to buy an EV may have doubts. I have been a diehard EV advocate since 2011, but today was definitely a highly unpleasant (and scary) experience. I ended up crawling on the freeway, as luckily, my “Very low battery charge” warning lasted nearly 10 miles. By the way, is there some sort of device (a GIDs counter, perhaps) that would give me a more accurate battery charge level? ? Thanks for listening… ? ???? Zz??????
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Tesla supercharger team axed
Tesla’s roughly 58,000 Superchargers have set the standard for EV drivers the world over. Musk’s decision to slow expansion will be felt most acutely in North America, where the network accounts for 74% of all ultra-fast chargers tracked by BloombergNEF. The company has consistently installed more ultra-fast chargers in North America than all other networks combined. The first quarter of the year was no exception: Tesla installed a record 3,680 Superchargers, while its competitors collectively installed fewer than half that number. Tesla’s imminent slowdown may put a damper on the region’s?. BNEF forecast in its?Long-Term Electric Vehicle?Outlook that there needs to be around 400,000 ultra-fast chargers in North America?to serve a fleet of 40 million battery-electric vehicles by 2030, and lay the foundation?for over 90 million EVs just five years later. Charging?is a??in Europe, where Tesla’s slowdown won’t be felt as strongly.?A total of 390 companies added more than 13,000 ultra-fast chargers in the first quarter, which was 11 times greater than Tesla’s installations. Perhaps Musk is betting that the North American charging industry will look more like Europe’s in the years to come, and isn’t inclined to commit the capital required to keep growing the network at pace in an increasingly crowded market.
---------------------------------- For all the plaudits that Tesla’s Supercharger network?deserves, the amount of money required to keep its extensive charging network up to date shouldn’t be underestimated.
Making its stations suitable for non-Tesla EVs likely will necessitate installing longer cables for bigger pickups and SUVs. And with almost every automaker slated to produce?, more stations will require Tesla’s latest?Version 4 hardware, which only makes up around 7% of its network currently. If Musk can realize his?robotaxi vision, stations may also need to integrate??or??technology. No matter what precipitated Musk’s moves, the dialing back of Tesla’s Supercharger ambitions adds to the already??around EVs in the?US. Automakers have no time to feel sorry for themselves having been left in the lurch soon after switching to Tesla’s charging connector. The Ionna joint venture that??have set up to build at least 30,000 chargers needs?to get off the starting blocks quickly. And there are some reasons for optimism that new entrants can help fill the void, with more than 50 companies joining the sector after having won funding from the National Electric Vehicle Infrastructure (NEVI) Formula Program. Even if there may be some merit to streamlining in the face of increasing competition and in order to focus on robotaxis, the chaos surrounding Tesla’s Supercharger operation is poised to ripple across the industry for months to come.
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Re: Link to EV charging interview
Today: I heard Jerry Pohorsky on the radio! He is everywhere! Kim ------------------------------------- T. Kim Parnell, Ph.D.,P.E.?Fellow, ASME Past-Chair, IEEE-SCV Section Director & Past Chair, IEEE-CNSV Parnell Expert Consulting Parnell Engineering & Consulting 1150 Kelsey Drive? Sunnyvale, CA 94087 E-mail:? kim.parnell@...? Cell:? ? (408) 203-9443? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? <-- My LinkedIN Profile
On Sun, Apr 28, 2024 at 9:26?PM T.Kim Parnell via <kim.parnell= [email protected]> wrote:
Jerry: Nice interview! You are a Star now. Have you received any Endorsement deals yet today? Kim ------------------------------------- T. Kim Parnell, Ph.D.,P.E.? Fellow, ASME Past-Chair, IEEE-SCV Section Director & Past Chair, IEEE-CNSV Parnell Expert Consulting Parnell Engineering & Consulting E-mail:? kim.parnell@...? Cell:? ? (408) 203-9443? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? <-- My LinkedIN Profile
On Sun, Apr 28, 2024 at 9:19?PM Jerry Pohorsky via <jerry.pohorsky= [email protected]> wrote: Hello,
Here is a link to the KPIX TV EV charging news report video.? No commercials or interruptions. It originally aired at 5 and 6 PM on Sunday 4-27-24.
Jerry?
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Re: Tesla Charging Cable, Back-In Parking, and Charging Port Location
On Apr 29, 2024, at 1:24?PM, JoeS. <siudzinski@...> wrote:
Back-in parking is far safer than going in forward into a parking spot. Many references, for example, randomly, - I don't care, it's WAY slower.. I have to wait for people all the time. (yes, I'm including both pull in and pull out.. have to wait FAAAAAAR longer for people to back into a parking spot.. Thankfully with my smart, sometimes I can make my way past them while they're taking forever)
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Tesla Charging Cable, Back-In Parking, and Charging Port Location
Back-in parking is far safer than going in forward into a parking spot. Many references, for example, randomly, -
's%20Better%20to%20Back%20Into%20a%20Parking%20Space,-Backing%20into%20a&text=In%20a%20recent%20study%20by,out%20of%20a%20parking%20spot.
It's a skill that all should have, and practice.
The length of the Tesla Supercharger cables is perfect for Teslas, even though I believe that Tesla was misguided in the charging port location because:
a) When at a curbside charging station the cable (if it even reaches) juts out into traffic and can be snagged by a bicycle and is a problem not just with Teslas but all cars that have their charging port on the driver's side.
b) Home charging means that the car has to be far enough from the wall for the driver's door to open, which consumes about three feet of unnecessary space in the garage, not to mention having to maneuver around the charge cord.
A charging port on the passenger side rear fender allows for easy curbside charging and a very short (3') charging cable to the EVSE at a home garage, and, most importantly, increases usable space between cars in a garage by about 3'. Ask me how I know.
How Tesla is going to deal with their short cables to support other cars without having adapters with cables will be 'interesting'.
Flame suit on.
JoeS.
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On Apr 29, 2024, at 10:20, mattack <mattack@...> wrote:
Funny how Newsom is in front of a Tesla EVSE, but apparently they don't have any larger cords. (I rented a Tesla for one day, and would not buy one unless I could ALSO buy an extension cable so I wouldn't have to park backwards at superchargers.)
The cables are so short, I had to back up so far that my wheels hit the parking curb.
I hope Tesla's new "open for all" chargers also have longer cords.
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Re: EV Charging interview tonight on KPIX TV
Funny how Newsom is in front of a Tesla EVSE, but apparently they don't have any larger cords. (I rented a Tesla for one day, and would not buy one unless I could ALSO buy an extension cable so I wouldn't have to park backwards at superchargers.)
The cables are so short, I had to back up so far that my wheels hit the parking curb.
I hope Tesla's new "open for all" chargers also have longer cords.
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Re: EV Charging interview tonight on KPIX TV
EVs are in dire need of a national organization?
that can be an easy, routine go-to for reporters nationwide.
"I just had a Zoom meeting with Max Darrow who is a reporter from KPIX TV in San Francisco.? He contacted me through the "Contact Us" feature on our??website requesting someone to comment "
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Re: Link to EV charging interview
Jerry: Nice interview! You are a Star now. Have you received any Endorsement deals yet today? Kim ------------------------------------- T. Kim Parnell, Ph.D.,P.E.? Fellow, ASME Past-Chair, IEEE-SCV Section Director & Past Chair, IEEE-CNSV Parnell Expert Consulting Parnell Engineering & Consulting 1150 Kelsey Drive? Sunnyvale, CA 94087 E-mail:? kim.parnell@...? Cell:? ? (408) 203-9443? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? <-- My LinkedIN Profile
On Sun, Apr 28, 2024 at 9:19?PM Jerry Pohorsky via <jerry.pohorsky= [email protected]> wrote: Hello,
Here is a link to the KPIX TV EV charging news report video.? No commercials or interruptions. It originally aired at 5 and 6 PM on Sunday 4-27-24.
Jerry?
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Link to EV charging interview
Hello,
Here is a link to the KPIX TV EV charging news report video.? No commercials or interruptions. It originally aired at 5 and 6 PM on Sunday 4-27-24.
Jerry?
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Re: EV Charging interview tonight on KPIX TV
It was short & sweet but a good plug
for charging stations. ? (Pardon the poor pun.)
??? ?? ???? Thanks,?? ??? ??? ???? Lou
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On 4/28/2024 4:34 PM, Jeff Chan wrote: On Sun, 2024-04-28 at 12:36 -0700, Lou via groups.io wrote:
Hi Jerry,
???? Good diplomacy!? Thank you.
I realize that news media likes to exhibit ostentatiously
to increase ratings rather than rely on scientific fact.
I hope you related that hydrogen is not yet practical
as an ecological fuel so subsidizing hydrogen fueling
stations is currently a waste of funding.
???? The only thing holding battery swapping back is
a need for infrastructure. ? The refueling time is quicker
than petroleum, hydrogen, or charging.
???? I'll look for a TV at 5 PM.??? ??? ??? Lou
Due to fast charging, battery swapping is not needed. Tesla already
tried this with a battery swap service at Harris Ranch, and Better
Place went bankrupt trying battery swap.
Jeff C.
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Re: EV Charging interview tonight on KPIX TV
Here is the link to the 4/28 evening news story that includes an
interview with Jerry:?
On 4/28/2024 10:24 AM, Jerry Pohorsky
wrote:
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Hello,
The
video?link for Gavin Newsom's charging infrastructure
announcement that I included earlier is not the best link
for his video clip.? Here is a direct link that avoids other
TV announcements and commercials.
Jerry
On Sun, Apr 28, 2024 at
10:05?AM Jerry Pohorsky via <jerry.pohorsky= [email protected]>
wrote:
Hello,
I just had a Zoom meeting
with Max Darrow who is a reporter from KPIX TV in San
Francisco.? He contacted me through the "Contact Us"
feature on our
website requesting someone to comment on Gavin
Newsom's recent announcement that the State of
California will be investing a large amount of money
to build up the public access EV Charging
infrastructure.??
There is a short video clip
of Newsom driving up to a Tesla Charging station in a
Ford Mach-e EV and plugging in to demonstrate that
Tesla has opened up their charging network to
non-Tesla EVs.? I found the video clip online.? Here
is?the link:? see
the YouTube link above instead
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Re: EV Charging interview tonight on KPIX TV
On Sun, 2024-04-28 at 12:36 -0700, Lou via groups.io wrote:
Hi Jerry,
???? Good diplomacy!? Thank you.
I realize that news media likes to exhibit ostentatiously
to increase ratings rather than rely on scientific fact.
I hope you related that hydrogen is not yet practical
as an ecological fuel so subsidizing hydrogen fueling
stations is currently a waste of funding.
???? The only thing holding battery swapping back is
a need for infrastructure. ? The refueling time is quicker
than petroleum, hydrogen, or charging.
???? I'll look for a TV at 5 PM.??? ??? ??? Lou
Due to fast charging, battery swapping is not needed. Tesla already tried this with a battery swap service at Harris Ranch, and Better Place went bankrupt trying battery swap. Jeff C.
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Re: EV Charging interview tonight on KPIX TV
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On 4/28/2024 10:05 AM, Jerry Pohorsky wrote:
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Hello,
I just had
a Zoom meeting with Max Darrow who is a reporter from KPIX
TV in San Francisco.? He contacted me through the "Contact
Us" feature on our website requesting
someone to comment on Gavin Newsom's recent announcement
that the State of California will be investing a large
amount of money to build up the public access EV Charging
infrastructure.??
There is a
short video clip of Newsom driving up to a Tesla Charging
station in a Ford Mach-e EV and plugging in to demonstrate
that Tesla has opened up their charging network to non-Tesla
EVs.? I found the video clip online.? Here is?the link:
Max had
several questions for me and he recorded the Zoom meeting.?
Not sure what parts will actually be used for the interview
that will be aired tonight 4-28-24 on KPIX TV News at 5 and
6 PM.
I avoided
all of the technical discussion in my email reply to Max's
original inquiry and kept it simple as Sybil advised.? I
also mentioned the suggestion of "try before you buy" to
encourage the EV curious viewers to contact a dealer or
rental agency to test drive an EV to see if it would work
for them.? Hopefully that message will survive the "cutting
room floor".
Jerry
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Hi Jerry,
Although your message re EV charging in general is
very thorough and fascinating reading for me, ?I went
back to your other email containing Max’s specific
question.
He basically wants a “congratulations to Newsom -
this will be a boon for current EV owners and help erase
the range anxiety of those hesitant to purchase or lease
a new or used EV
It will be the general public listening to/ watching
CBS Bay
Atea.? So hope you’ll do the best sales pitch ever to
get those ICE owners over to a GM, Ford, Hyundai or Kia
dealer to test drive an EV!
Max will gain some detailed insights from your
message to him, but keep it simple for the viewers
Make EV charging on the road sound easy and
accessible - not complicated
Although mentioning that ___% on EV owners charge at
home.? This extended system of EV chargers will benefit
people traveling to go skiing, driving vacations,
?visiting distant relatives, etc
I set my DVR to record CBS Bay Area on Monday and
Tuesday. Does Max know when the interview will air?
Cheers and applause!
Sybil
?Hello Max,
Thanks for contacting us.
I would be happy to speak with you
about EV charging on Sunday.
While I don’t have a Tesla, many of
our members do and I am familiar with their
charging network.? Several auto manufacturers have
agreed to participate with Tesla and make future
models compatible with the Tesla charging system
which is being branded as NACS (North America
Charging Standard).
Until those manufacturers start
integrating the NACS charging connector into their
EVs, there is an adapter that non-Tesla drivers
can use in the meanwhile.
It remains to be seen what other
charging station manufacturers will do.?
Eventually this will get sorted out just like the
VHS and Betamax video tape player conundrum did
several years ago.? Who knows, maybe in the future
NACS may become obsolete and replaced with a
wireless?charger system.
To further add to the current
confusing EV charging situation, there are 3
charging levels.
Level 1 uses the standard SAE J1772
plugs and delivers a slow and time consuming
charge from a 120 volt AC outlet.
Level 2 charging is significantly
faster and uses the same SAE connector from a 240
volt AC outlet.
Level 3 is completely different but
very fast.? It supplies DC power to the EV which
?can charge an EV in a mater of minutes.? However
while EV drivers can use a level 1 or level 2
charger at home, the huge amount of power used for
level 3 charging is only available at commercial
or industrial locations. ?
Also, to complicate matters further,
there are 3 somewhat incompatible Level 3 charging
standards.
Nissan uses the Chademo standard
although this ?is being phased out like Betamax
was.? Most other automakers like Ford, GM, VW,
Hyundai, Kia, and Toyota use the CCS standard.?
The third standard is Tesla. ?
Hopefully this brief tutorial will
give you some insight into the present situation
and why these multiple “standards” make expansions
of the EV charging network a fairly complex and
challenging task.
While hydrogen fuel cell vehicles
are actually EVs, the price of the fuel and the
scarcity of fueling stations has turned this
alternative into a very small niche market,
despite the huge investment made by the state of
California to create the “Hydrogen Highway”. ?
The internal combustion and diesel
vehicles are similarly challenged with 3 octane
levels and diesel - although drivers have become
accustomed to it over the years.
Other options for these vehicles
exist to a much smaller degree, such as natural
gas, propane, biodiesel and alcohol fuels like
ethanol and methanol.
So this comparison puts the multiple
EV charging standards into perspective.
The electric grid infrastructure
issue is a whole other bag of worms that I won’t
get into here. ? There was an excellent article on
this topic I can send to you which is based on the
fact that Amazon has installed the largest
charging network in the United States - primary
for their own use. ? They discovered it was a lot
more expensive, difficult, and time consuming than
they expected.
Jerry Pohorsky
Electric Vehicle Association?
Silicon Valley Chapter President
408-464-0711 voice or text
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Thanks for doing this interview Jerry! It definitely helps to increase the visibility of EAASV and the Electric Vehicle & Charging Infrastructure. Kim ------------------------------------- T. Kim Parnell, Ph.D.,P.E.?Fellow, ASME Past-Chair, IEEE-SCV Section Director & Past Chair, IEEE-CNSV Parnell Expert Consulting Parnell Engineering & Consulting 1150 Kelsey Drive? Sunnyvale, CA 94087 E-mail:? kim.parnell@...? Cell:? ? (408) 203-9443? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? <-- My LinkedIN Profile
On Sun, Apr 28, 2024 at 10:25?AM Jerry Pohorsky via <jerry.pohorsky= [email protected]> wrote: Hello,
The video?link for Gavin Newsom's charging infrastructure announcement that I included earlier is not the best link for his video clip.? Here is a direct link that avoids other TV announcements and commercials.
Jerry On Sun, Apr 28, 2024 at 10:05?AM Jerry Pohorsky via <jerry.pohorsky= [email protected]> wrote: Hello,
I just had a Zoom meeting with Max Darrow who is a reporter from KPIX TV in San Francisco.? He contacted me through the "Contact Us" feature on our website requesting someone to comment on Gavin Newsom's recent announcement that the State of California will be investing a large amount of money to build up the public access EV Charging infrastructure.??
There is a short video clip of Newsom driving up to a Tesla Charging station in a Ford Mach-e EV and plugging in to demonstrate that Tesla has opened up their charging network to non-Tesla EVs.? I found the video clip online.? Here is?the link:? see the YouTube link above instead
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Re: EV Charging interview tonight on KPIX TV
Hello,
The video?link for Gavin Newsom's charging infrastructure announcement that I included earlier is not the best link for his video clip.? Here is a direct link that avoids other TV announcements and commercials.
Jerry
On Sun, Apr 28, 2024 at 10:05?AM Jerry Pohorsky via <jerry.pohorsky= [email protected]> wrote: Hello,
I just had a Zoom meeting with Max Darrow who is a reporter from KPIX TV in San Francisco.? He contacted me through the "Contact Us" feature on our website requesting someone to comment on Gavin Newsom's recent announcement that the State of California will be investing a large amount of money to build up the public access EV Charging infrastructure.??
There is a short video clip of Newsom driving up to a Tesla Charging station in a Ford Mach-e EV and plugging in to demonstrate that Tesla has opened up their charging network to non-Tesla EVs.? I found the video clip online.? Here is?the link:? see the YouTube link above instead
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EV Charging interview tonight on KPIX TV
Hello,
I just had a Zoom meeting with Max Darrow who is a reporter from KPIX TV in San Francisco.? He contacted me through the "Contact Us" feature on our website requesting someone to comment on Gavin Newsom's recent announcement that the State of California will be investing a large amount of money to build up the public access EV Charging infrastructure.??
There is a short video clip of Newsom driving up to a Tesla Charging station in a Ford Mach-e EV and plugging in to demonstrate that Tesla has opened up their charging network to non-Tesla EVs.? I found the video clip online.? Here is?the link:
Max had several questions for me and he recorded the Zoom meeting.? Not sure what parts will actually be used for the interview that will be aired tonight 4-28-24 on KPIX TV News at 5 and 6 PM.
I avoided all of the technical discussion in my email reply to Max's original inquiry and kept it simple as Sybil advised.? I also mentioned the suggestion of "try before you buy" to encourage the EV curious viewers to contact a dealer or rental agency to test drive an EV to see if it would work for them.? Hopefully that message will survive the "cutting room floor".
Jerry
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Hi Jerry,
Although your message re EV charging in general is very thorough and fascinating reading for me, ?I went back to your other email containing Max’s specific question.
He basically wants a “congratulations to Newsom - this will be a boon for current EV owners and help erase the range anxiety of those hesitant to purchase or lease a new or used EV
It will be the general public listening to/ watching CBS Bay Atea.? So hope you’ll do the best sales pitch ever to get those ICE owners over to a GM, Ford, Hyundai or Kia dealer to test drive an EV!
Max will gain some detailed insights from your message to him, but keep it simple for the viewers
Make EV charging on the road sound easy and accessible - not complicated
Although mentioning that ___% on EV owners charge at home.? This extended system of EV chargers will benefit people traveling to go skiing, driving vacations, ?visiting distant relatives, etc
I set my DVR to record CBS Bay Area on Monday and Tuesday. Does Max know when the interview will air?
Cheers and applause! Sybil ?Hello Max,
Thanks for contacting us. I would be happy to speak with you about EV charging on Sunday.
While I don’t have a Tesla, many of our members do and I am familiar with their charging network.? Several auto manufacturers have agreed to participate with Tesla and make future models compatible with the Tesla charging system which is being branded as NACS (North America Charging Standard).
Until those manufacturers start integrating the NACS charging connector into their EVs, there is an adapter that non-Tesla drivers can use in the meanwhile.
It remains to be seen what other charging station manufacturers will do.? Eventually this will get sorted out just like the VHS and Betamax video tape player conundrum did several years ago.? Who knows, maybe in the future NACS may become obsolete and replaced with a wireless?charger system.
To further add to the current confusing EV charging situation, there are 3 charging levels.
Level 1 uses the standard SAE J1772 plugs and delivers a slow and time consuming charge from a 120 volt AC outlet.
Level 2 charging is significantly faster and uses the same SAE connector from a 240 volt AC outlet.
Level 3 is completely different but very fast.? It supplies DC power to the EV which ?can charge an EV in a mater of minutes.? However while EV drivers can use a level 1 or level 2 charger at home, the huge amount of power used for level 3 charging is only available at commercial or industrial locations. ?
Also, to complicate matters further, there are 3 somewhat incompatible Level 3 charging standards. Nissan uses the Chademo standard although this ?is being phased out like Betamax was.? Most other automakers like Ford, GM, VW, Hyundai, Kia, and Toyota use the CCS standard.? The third standard is Tesla. ?
Hopefully this brief tutorial will give you some insight into the present situation and why these multiple “standards” make expansions of the EV charging network a fairly complex and challenging task.
While hydrogen fuel cell vehicles are actually EVs, the price of the fuel and the scarcity of fueling stations has turned this alternative into a very small niche market, despite the huge investment made by the state of California to create the “Hydrogen Highway”. ?
The internal combustion and diesel vehicles are similarly challenged with 3 octane levels and diesel - although drivers have become accustomed to it over the years.
Other options for these vehicles exist to a much smaller degree, such as natural gas, propane, biodiesel and alcohol fuels like ethanol and methanol.
So this comparison puts the multiple EV charging standards into perspective.
The electric grid infrastructure issue is a whole other bag of worms that I won’t get into here. ? There was an excellent article on this topic I can send to you which is based on the fact that Amazon has installed the largest charging network in the United States - primary for their own use. ? They discovered it was a lot more expensive, difficult, and time consuming than they expected.
Jerry Pohorsky Electric Vehicle Association? Silicon Valley Chapter President
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Foothill College "Possible Self" A Day On The Hill Saturday May 4, 2024
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You are invited to Foothill College "Possible Self" event.? The
Silicone Valley EVA will be having a booth and displaying electric
vehicles.
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Mark Robichek
T.Kim Parnell