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Re: What EVs can use lever #3 chargers?

 

Hi Jeff, Arthur and Benson,
??? Thank you for the explanation. ? My problem
is that Tesla only makes 4 door sedans. ? My plan
is to buy a model S or X and put the motor and
controller in a more practical body style.
??? Your info tells me I should get a newer vehicle
from which to pirate parts. ? Does Tesla allow 2nd
owners to use their fast charging plugs? ?? Or does
it depend what model? ? I don't recall what the Lotus/
Tesla Roadsters used.
??? I have heard that Tesla sold the rights to use their
fast charging plugs to other car companies. ? I just
read an article that Kia is including an adapter to
use both Level #3 plugs for their new cars.

??? I don't have my credit card anywhere on my
computer so it can't be stolen from an app. ? I used
PayPal once and they ripped me off for $64 and
never paid the vendor. ? I was never able to contact
them and all their communication only permitted? a
payment to them. ? It would cost more than $64 to
take them to court.
??? After placing a credit card for AT&T auto pay,
I am reluctant give any company? carte-blanche with
my credit card.
??? After I find out how to pay for the chargers, I'll
have to find out the price per KWH each one charges
to charge.??? Is there and EV version of Gas Buddy?

??? Thank you all for your education on plugs.
Happy Holidays,??? ??? ??? Lou

On 12/24/2024 8:12 PM, Benson Wong via groups.io wrote:

It¡¯s important to point out that buying a CCS to NACS adapter does not mean your car will automatically charge at a Tesla Supercharger. The car with the CCS port needs to have charging capability on the Tesla supercharger network. I believe quite a few cars can charge with the proper adapter but not all. I would recommend doing more research for your own car before buying an adapter. Also not all Tesla Superchargers will work either - I believe it needs to be a version 3 or 4 cabinet as the earlier versions will not work for non-Teslas.

Coincidentally did a road trip down to San Diego today in my Tesla Model 3 and saw a Rivian and a Ford Mustang Mach-E charging at the Tesla Superchargers.

Benson




On 12/24/2024 12:40 AM, Arthur Keller wrote:
I still drive a 2017 Tesla Model X. ?Although I do most of my charging at home, Tesla supercharging is free for as long as the car lasts.
Best regards,
Arthur



On 12/24/2024 1:16 PM, Jeff Chan wrote:
On Tue, 2024-12-24 at 00:14 -0800, Lou via groups.io wrote:



Hi Jeff,
???? Thanks! ? You answered the questions I asked.
So in the US, I would need a CCS1 or NACS connector to access
Level #3 charging. ? I would also need a Tesla or other charger's
credit card to activate the chargers. ? May anyone purchase these
cards or must one own a specific vehicle to use the charger?


??? ??? ??? ??? Thanks again,??? ??? ??? ??? Lou
Hi Lou,
NACS is already the most common fast charger and will be more common
with it effectively becoming the national standard. While it is
possible to adapt CCS to NACS and vice versa, and adapters exist,
they're less commonly used.

With NACS becoming the standard, most EVs will be built with NACS
ports.

(This is talking about the North American area. Standards are
different in China and Europe. Europe is probably the most unified
with the Menekes connected being more common than NACS here.)

Payment is usually handled in an app or in a web site account. Just
like any web or app payment, any credit card (or other payment methods
probably) can be used. It's a normal online shopping transaction.

To do so usually requires setting up an account in the app or on the
web site. One of the parameters of the account set up is payment
method, like any other online purchase.

Hope this helps,

Jeff C.
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