On Feb 1, 2025, at 9:39?AM, Mark Walker via groups.io <skyview@...> wrote:

? I can't believe the helo guys wouldn't have seen the landing lights of the RJ.? They should have been blinding them at close range.? Maybe looking inside at instruments too much,? Mark

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On Friday 01/31/2025 at 9:29 pm, Michael Bellino via groups.io wrote:

Hi Ann, et al.,

Thank you for sharing that video. IMHO, Juan Browne's 'blancolirio' YouTube channel is the best overall for accident reporting. He did a follow-up to this video the following day:?

In a nutshell, it appears that while there were a number of contributing factors (ATC short handed, night vision goggles, etc....) the root cause was that the helicopter flew well above their allowed airway. The limit was 200 ft, specifically to be clear of jets landing overhead. Just before they struck the CRJ, they were at 350ft and climbing. They collided with the CRJ at about 400ft.?

It has been confirmed that the soldiers were wearing Night Vision Goggles (NVGs) on their training flight.

As someone who participates in the design of Night Vision goggles (as did Nestor), I can confirm that the field of view (FOV) is very much restricted with standard NVGs. Also depth perception is significantly reduced. I've tried walking through woods with NVGs and it's not easy.?

If the pilots had had a thermal channel integrated (and on) with their NVGs (for example the that Nestor and I worked on) they would have certainly seen the thermal signature of the CRJ well in advance.

Cheers,

Mike

On Thursday, January 30, 2025 at 04:57:12 PM EST, Ann Lanzara via groups.io <net3pacer@...> wrote:

here is an interesting summary

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