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Hey, I'm running Direwolf 1.6 on a Rasberry Pi 4 and I would like to see if its possible to use this Pi as a traditional Kantronics/Paccomm esque TNC (with the "cmd:" type prompt via a USB-Serial adapter. I have a terminal program running on my Apple //e Enhanced from 1982 and would like to control direwolf as if it were a TNC from the 80s. Is this possible? (Ignore the fact that I'm using an Apple II, I would like this setup to work with any serial terminal)
Thanks!
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You need to be more specific in what you expect from Direwolf. the cmd: prompt was used to change settings in the old hardware TNCs. Most of those settings are now in the Direwolf.ini file (or the ini file you specify on the command line with '-c').
Are you just trying to put Direwolf in the old K (converse) mode to have keyboard-to-keyboard QSOs? Or are you expecting that your terminal program will be able to change some (or all) of the parameters set in the ini file? These would be things like: MYCALL, BTEXT, DIGI
? These 'may' or 'may not' make sense for Direwolf.
For QSOs, if your APPLE IIe terminal program allows connection through TCP/IP, you could try connecting that way.?
On Thursday, December 2, 2021, 09:03:53 AM EST, elgunn.cmma@... <elgunn.cmma@...> wrote:
Hey, I'm running Direwolf 1.6 on a Rasberry Pi 4 and I would like to see if its possible to use this Pi as a traditional Kantronics/Paccomm esque TNC (with the "cmd:" type prompt via a USB-Serial adapter. I have a terminal program running on my Apple //e Enhanced from 1982 and would like to control direwolf as if it were a TNC from the 80s. Is this possible? (Ignore the fact that I'm using an Apple II, I would like this setup to work with any serial terminal)
Thanks!
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Interesting challenge!? I have an old pre-IBM computer (a 1977-era
MAI Jolt) and TV Typewriter system that still works.? It would be
cool to do some packet radio with it.
I think what you might do is to use the internal serial port on the
Raspberry Pi (GPIO 14 Tx, 15 Rx) to get a Linux serial console into
the Pi, or a USB serial dongle if that's handy.? The tty consoles
are enabled in the Pi's config; they default off.? Connect that to
the Apple serial port and its TTY emulator.? Once you can log into
the Pi, you can run axcall to connect to the packet nodes, or
potentially linpac to do the multi-session stuff if the terminal
emulator supports the right TTY model.
Have fun!
Greg? KO6TH
Rob Giuliano via groups.io wrote:
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You need to be more
specific in what you expect from Direwolf.
the cmd: prompt was used to
change settings in the old hardware TNCs.
Most of those settings are
now in the Direwolf.ini file (or the ini file you specify on
the command line with '-c').
Are you just trying to put
Direwolf in the old K (converse) mode to have
keyboard-to-keyboard QSOs?
Or are you expecting that
your terminal program will be able to change some (or all)
of the parameters set in the ini file?
These would be things like:
MYCALL, BTEXT, DIGI
? These 'may' or 'may not'
make sense for Direwolf.
For QSOs, if your APPLE IIe
terminal program allows connection through TCP/IP, you could
try connecting that way.?
Hey, I'm running Direwolf
1.6 on a Rasberry Pi 4 and I would like to see if its
possible to use this Pi as a traditional
Kantronics/Paccomm esque TNC (with the "cmd:" type prompt
via a USB-Serial adapter. I have a terminal program
running on my Apple //e Enhanced from 1982 and would like
to control direwolf as if it were a TNC from the 80s. Is
this possible? (Ignore the fact that I'm using an Apple
II, I would like this setup to work with any serial
terminal)
Thanks!
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>Interesting challenge!? I have an old pre-IBM computer (a 1977-era
MAI Jolt) and TV Typewriter how about a Teletype Model 33? This thing at 100 wpm was a screamer for the days. Mike K6MFW
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Oh, yeah.? Used them many, many times.? Also the 35's.? Mechanical
marvels, both.? They'd be a bit harder to use in this situation,
being current loop interfaces (vs RS-232), but should work if you
can find the rolls of paper and inked ribbon.
Greg? KO6TH
Michael Wright wrote:
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>Interesting
challenge!? I have an old pre-IBM computer (a 1977-era MAI Jolt)
and TV Typewriter
how about a Teletype Model 33? This thing at 100 wpm was a
screamer for the days.
Mike K6MFW
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Hello Elgunn,
This feature has been requested for Direwolf a few times in the
past.? I suppose that Direwolf could add native support such a thing
some day but it's a bit of a backwards step.? If or until that day
comes, you can consider setting up Direwolf+BPQ32 and enabled BPQ's
TNC2 emulator to offer this type of "front end":
??
Mapping those virtual "PTS" serial interfaces to a physical
/dev/ttyUSB* serial device to connect to your legacy terminal
shouldn't be too difficult with a simple "socat" process doing the
relaying.
--David
KI6ZHD
On 12/02/2021 07:12 AM, Rob Giuliano
via groups.io wrote:
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You need to be more
specific in what you expect from Direwolf.
the cmd: prompt was used to
change settings in the old hardware TNCs.
Most of those settings are
now in the Direwolf.ini file (or the ini file you specify on
the command line with '-c').
Are you just trying to put
Direwolf in the old K (converse) mode to have
keyboard-to-keyboard QSOs?
Or are you expecting that
your terminal program will be able to change some (or all)
of the parameters set in the ini file?
These would be things like:
MYCALL, BTEXT, DIGI
? These 'may' or 'may not'
make sense for Direwolf.
For QSOs, if your APPLE IIe
terminal program allows connection through TCP/IP, you could
try connecting that way.?
Hey, I'm running Direwolf
1.6 on a Rasberry Pi 4 and I would like to see if its
possible to use this Pi as a traditional
Kantronics/Paccomm esque TNC (with the "cmd:" type prompt
via a USB-Serial adapter. I have a terminal program
running on my Apple //e Enhanced from 1982 and would like
to control direwolf as if it were a TNC from the 80s. Is
this possible? (Ignore the fact that I'm using an Apple
II, I would like this setup to work with any serial
terminal)
Thanks!
|
I don’t think we need the cmd: prompt, but using it in a KPC-3 kind-of way would call for a command interface to:? specify connect path,? initiate connections,? disconnections,? and then a display of text that is received,? and a typing area to send text. ? The FRACK, DWAIT, PPERSIST, SLOT, RETRIES, TXDELAY, and all that could stay in a nice concise INI file. ?
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Interesting challenge!? I have an old pre-IBM computer (a 1977-era
MAI Jolt) and TV Typewriter system that still works.? It would be
cool to do some packet radio with it.
I think what you might do is to use the internal serial port on the
Raspberry Pi (GPIO 14 Tx, 15 Rx) to get a Linux serial console into
the Pi, or a USB serial dongle if that's handy.? The tty consoles
are enabled in the Pi's config; they default off.? Connect that to
the Apple serial port and its TTY emulator.? Once you can log into
the Pi, you can run axcall to connect to the packet nodes, or
potentially linpac to do the multi-session stuff if the terminal
emulator supports the right TTY model.
Have fun!
Greg? KO6TH
Rob Giuliano via wrote:
You need to be more
specific in what you expect from Direwolf.
the cmd: prompt was used to
change settings in the old hardware TNCs.
Most of those settings are
now in the Direwolf.ini file (or the ini file you specify on
the command line with '-c').
Are you just trying to put
Direwolf in the old K (converse) mode to have
keyboard-to-keyboard QSOs?
Or are you expecting that
your terminal program will be able to change some (or all)
of the parameters set in the ini file?
These would be things like:
MYCALL, BTEXT, DIGI
? These 'may' or 'may not'
make sense for Direwolf.
For QSOs, if your APPLE IIe
terminal program allows connection through TCP/IP, you could
try connecting that way.?
Hey, I'm running Direwolf
1.6 on a Rasberry Pi 4 and I would like to see if its
possible to use this Pi as a traditional
Kantronics/Paccomm esque TNC (with the "cmd:" type prompt
via a USB-Serial adapter. I have a terminal program
running on my Apple //e Enhanced from 1982 and would like
to control direwolf as if it were a TNC from the 80s. Is
this possible? (Ignore the fact that I'm using an Apple
II, I would like this setup to work with any serial
terminal)
Thanks!
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Hello Tadd,
I would generally agree but that's not what the person wanted.? He
wants to use an Apple //e as a serial terminal into something that
emulates a TNC.? There are lots of Linux-native and via-TCP/IP
ways to offer packet radio interfaces be it TCP-KISS, AGW, and
then moving up the stack: the native axcall and beacon tools, on
the TUI side there is Linpac, and getting into GUIs there is
EasyTerm, BPQTermTCP, etc.? None of those will work with an Apple
//e.
--David
KI6ZHD
On 12/02/2021 03:54 PM, Tadd KA2DEW in
NC via groups.io wrote:
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I don’t think we need the cmd: prompt, but using it in a KPC-3
kind-of way would call for a command interface to:?
specify connect path,?
initiate connections,?
disconnections,?
and then a display of text that is received,?
and a typing area to send text. ?
The FRACK, DWAIT, PPERSIST, SLOT, RETRIES, TXDELAY,
and all that could stay in a nice concise INI file. ?
? ?Tadd?
Interesting challenge!? I have an old pre-IBM computer
(a 1977-era MAI Jolt) and TV Typewriter system that
still works.? It would be cool to do some packet radio
with it.
I think what you might do is to use the internal
serial port on the Raspberry Pi (GPIO 14 Tx, 15 Rx) to
get a Linux serial console into the Pi, or a USB
serial dongle if that's handy.? The tty consoles are
enabled in the Pi's config; they default off.? Connect
that to the Apple serial port and its TTY emulator.?
Once you can log into the Pi, you can run axcall to
connect to the packet nodes, or potentially linpac to
do the multi-session stuff if the terminal emulator
supports the right TTY model.
Have fun!
Greg? KO6TH
Rob Giuliano via wrote:
You
need to be more specific in what you expect
from Direwolf.
the
cmd: prompt was used to change settings in the
old hardware TNCs.
Most
of those settings are now in the Direwolf.ini
file (or the ini file you specify on the
command line with '-c').
Are
you just trying to put Direwolf in the old K
(converse) mode to have keyboard-to-keyboard
QSOs?
Or
are you expecting that your terminal program
will be able to change some (or all) of the
parameters set in the ini file?
These
would be things like: MYCALL, BTEXT, DIGI
?
These 'may' or 'may not' make sense for
Direwolf.
For
QSOs, if your APPLE IIe terminal program
allows connection through TCP/IP, you could
try connecting that way.?
Hey,
I'm running Direwolf 1.6 on a Rasberry Pi 4
and I would like to see if its possible to
use this Pi as a traditional
Kantronics/Paccomm esque TNC (with the
"cmd:" type prompt via a USB-Serial adapter.
I have a terminal program running on my
Apple //e Enhanced from 1982 and would like
to control direwolf as if it were a TNC from
the 80s. Is this possible? (Ignore the fact
that I'm using an Apple II, I would like
this setup to work with any serial terminal)
Thanks!
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I made some software that does that. It works with Direwolf on Windows and Linux (at least). You can get it . The chatter program won't work with an ancient ink-on-paper teletype, since it relies on overwriting output using backspaces.
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On Thu, Dec 2, 2021 at 03:54 PM, Tadd KA2DEW in NC wrote:
I don’t think we need the cmd: prompt, but using it in a KPC-3 kind-of way would call for a command interface to:?
specify connect path,?
initiate connections,?
disconnections,?
and then a display of text that is received,?
and a typing area to send text.
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Tadd KA2DEW in NC
John Kristian