is there a way to avoid running sdr application and virtual audio driver?
i've got both a Funcube Pro+ and an SDRplay dx. Is there any way to tell direwolf (windows) to get the SDR to simply demodulate FM on 144.390 and pass this into direwolf? I'm trying to get the smallest footprint of running apps.?
up until this, I have been running SDRpp, virtual audio cable, sound modem and APRSIS.?
I'd like to find the simplest way / footprint to run an APRS i-gate only on a windows machine. Any suggestions are really appreciated.
-Kevin (KK4YEL)?
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Re: RMS packet or BBS stations
Hi John,
I first want to try the very same direwolf 1.7 instance that hang previously to see if it is still reproducible (there may have been external factors involved that I'm not able to control or reproduce), but if it is I will try the snapshot 1.7a as well. Thanks for pointing that out, since I had not been aware of it. I wanted to try 1.7 for the improved ability to calibrate FM deviation with continuous Mark and Space tones and thought the development branch was my only option.
As for logs for the original two hangs, the JNOS and Outpost PM (client application) logs are available. Just DireWolf itself did not have logging enabled at that time. "Hangs" may not be the right word either. In both cases the DIreWolf console continued to print a message for every packet received from JNOS except that the console message (same message repeating) was completely unrelated to the AX.25 packet that was received! No data was passed on through the AGWPE connection to Outpost PM.
Thanks
Thomas
KK6FPP
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Re: RMS packet or BBS stations
You might get better results with the . I don't know whether the dev branch is meant to be stable.
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On Sun, Nov 6, 2022 at 01:19 PM, Thomas Leibold wrote:
The hangs were with DireWolf 1.7 ('dev' branch from 10/19/2022) running on openSuSE Linux.
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Re: RMS packet or BBS stations
Hi Chris, I am too experiencing this, but I have issues with JNOS hanging with a hardware TNC too. This is off-topic for the direwolf group, but there is a well known (for everybody except Kantronics who deny it) problem with the KPC-3/KPC-3+ firmware in KISS mode (and JNOS interfaces with the TNC in kiss mode). At some point (sooner or later depending on the traffic volume) the KPC-3(+) will gets its buffer pointers messed up and from that point forward will pass on the contents of the oldest still buffered packet whenever a new packet comes in. In connection-less operation (e.g. APRS) this results in some messages being duplicated and others being strangely delayed. In connected mode operation (e.g. BBS access) this plays complete havoc and prevents normal operation until the KPC-3(+) is being reset (either power-cycle or taken out of KISS mode and then KISS mode turned back on which involves a soft reset). On 15 KPC-3+ TNCs (4 JNOS BBS, 3 Radios each) we experience this issue about once every 1-2 month. As for the hangs I had with DireWolf 1.7, I repeated the same test 4 times with DireWolf 1.6 and cannot reproduce it. I'll try to repeat the test with DireWolf 1.7 (this time with logging enabled) hopefully later this week. Thanks Thomas KK6FPP
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Re: How to Set Path to wxnow.txt file
Did you get this working?
I would run a small batchfile to ROBOCOPY the file to its secondary location if the PBEACON command can't handle pathing.
you can setup ROBOCOPY to run when ever the file is updated by the Davis system.
Craig
N1SFT
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Re: RMS packet or BBS stations
I am too experiencing this, but I have issues with JNOS hanging with a
hardware TNC too. It seems the retries are spaced unevenly and seem
to wait as though holding off because of DCD sense, but there is no
carrier to be detected on the channel. So I am going to chalk it up
to a JNOS issue not a direwolf one. I have a LinBPQ instance I may
test it with. I am WAAAYYY more familiar with JNOS, so I would
rather get that fixed. This was happening from years ago too, and I
never quite nailed down why it was failing. I ended up giving it up
because my JNOS instance gets almost no use whatsoever. Just leaving
up a KPC-3+ for the occasional PBBS traffic (maybe 2 messages a year).
However, I have been playing again because it is fun. I also have
been doing CW nets for NTS and would like to integrate these things.
-Chris KQ6UP
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On Sun, Nov 6, 2022 at 1:55 PM WB2OSZ <wb2osz@...> wrote:
On Sat, Nov 5, 2022 at 07:52 PM, Thomas Leibold wrote:
I have twice experienced hangs with DireWolf in connected mode sessions to a JNOS BBS.
Simply saying that it hangs is not helpful.
Please tell us more about the system configuration and include a log of all packets, in both directions, with timestamps, so we can see what is going on.
Thanks.
--
Thanks,
Chris Maness
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Trying to build for Linux with hamlib enabled, but I get "...not found...".? I do have hamlib 4.5, probably in an unusual location, locally built and installed for another app.? Have tried to set env vars, but not clear what it's looking for.
A libhamlib.so.2 link dynamic library (libhamlib.so.2.1.3 is the target) is located in the system libs area, but the static library and include files are in "~/hamlib-4.5/include/hamlib".
What do I need to do to enable use of hamlib with cmake for DireWolf?
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Re: question on duplicity
I was setting up a portable yet intended-to-be fixed APRS station. ?Primary use will be at club activations / picnics. ?This system is a direwolf TNC with APRSIS/32 as the client on a windows machine.
Since it will be in the field, this portable setup will not be expecting internet, therefore I-gating will be sporadic at best.
I’ll report back the results from next weekends outing. ?
Thanks and 73 all! Craig T. Bailey ARS N1SFT Hudson, NH 603-867-3607
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On Nov 6, 2022, at 22:46, Lynn Deffenbaugh <kj4erj@...> wrote:
?
My personal choice/recommendation would
be that if your "TNC" can handle the IGating and/or digipeating,
then let it handle it.?? That way if you close your client (or
shut down the PC on which the client runs), and the TNC is still
"alive", then your station will continue to operate as expected.
Greg is correct with respect to gating
messages from the APRS-IS to local RF.?? You really only want one
of your "stations" to be doing that.? Otherwise every one would be
transmitted twice on RF, once by each IGate.?? Not good.
And remember, the APRS-IS does not
contain any intelligent routing or IGate "selection" process.??
Every IGate that has recently forwarded a packet from a station,
will receive messages addressed to that station for some period of
time (default 30 minutes).?? Read that carefully, EVERY IGate that
hears the station gets addressed messages from the APRS-IS.?? It
is up to the individual IGates to decide what to do with them.
And a little known "feature" of the
APRS-IS is that if station Y sends a message addressed to station
X which was heard by IGate A, then the next position report from Y
will also be sent ot IGate A for forwarding onto the RF if
desired.?? This allows X to know see Y's position, even if it is
1/2 way around the planet.
Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE
for Windows Mobile and Win32
On 11/6/2022 9:55 PM, Greg D wrote:
The APRS-IS will be fine (it's pretty bullet proof), but my
experience is that there could be some subtle problems,
specifically with messaging.? You can send a message, but who can
see it and who receives the reply?? It might have been a quirk
with how I set things up (this was with YAAC on a Raspberry Pi),
but after noticing the issue I ran through the combinations of
source and sink (RF, IS, various SSIDs, etc) until my head began
to hurt.? Most worked, but some did not.? Since there is overlap,
what roles should Direwolf play, and what for the attached client
(YAAC in this case)?? I never got to the bottom of it.?
The Pi is the one in my car, rarely used on APRS since my mobile
rig has only one VFO and it's usually parked on the local
repeater.? So, not a high priority to fix, but I'd love to know
how one should implement something like this, particularly the
question of roles.? I was trying to make a
communicate-with-everything box, both iGate and as a Digi, moving
map display of local stations, messaging, etc.? I presume it still
works as it did, but it's been a couple of years.
Greg? KO6TH
Craig T. Bailey, N1SFT wrote:
Thanks Lynn!? ??
I figured my inquiry would receive the ubiquitous response…
“ask at the other forum…”? ?
?
Very good to know about the dedupes.? I
think I’ll pick one to serve as igate, though.? No sense in
making more work.
?
Craig
N1SFT
?
?
While that is a redundant setup,
nothing bad will happen.?? The APRS-IS servers de-dupe all
gated packets anyway, so you do not need to specify any
one as being "better" than the other.??
Lynn (D) -
KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
On 11/6/2022 7:16 PM, Craig T. Bailey,
N1SFT wrote:
Hello Direwolf users,
?
I understand Direwolf can act as an
RX\TX igate.? If it were paired with a client such as
APRSIS/32, what happens if both apps are setup to operate
as igates??
?
Is there a method/reason to consider
one igate better than another?
?
Thanks
?
?
Craig T. Bailey
A.R.S. N1SFT
Hudson, NH
(603)867-3607
?
?
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Re: question on duplicity
My personal choice/recommendation would
be that if your "TNC" can handle the IGating and/or digipeating,
then let it handle it.?? That way if you close your client (or
shut down the PC on which the client runs), and the TNC is still
"alive", then your station will continue to operate as expected.
Greg is correct with respect to gating
messages from the APRS-IS to local RF.?? You really only want one
of your "stations" to be doing that.? Otherwise every one would be
transmitted twice on RF, once by each IGate.?? Not good.
And remember, the APRS-IS does not
contain any intelligent routing or IGate "selection" process.??
Every IGate that has recently forwarded a packet from a station,
will receive messages addressed to that station for some period of
time (default 30 minutes).?? Read that carefully, EVERY IGate that
hears the station gets addressed messages from the APRS-IS.?? It
is up to the individual IGates to decide what to do with them.
And a little known "feature" of the
APRS-IS is that if station Y sends a message addressed to station
X which was heard by IGate A, then the next position report from Y
will also be sent ot IGate A for forwarding onto the RF if
desired.?? This allows X to know see Y's position, even if it is
1/2 way around the planet.
Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE
for Windows Mobile and Win32
On 11/6/2022 9:55 PM, Greg D wrote:
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The APRS-IS will be fine (it's pretty bullet proof), but my
experience is that there could be some subtle problems,
specifically with messaging.? You can send a message, but who can
see it and who receives the reply?? It might have been a quirk
with how I set things up (this was with YAAC on a Raspberry Pi),
but after noticing the issue I ran through the combinations of
source and sink (RF, IS, various SSIDs, etc) until my head began
to hurt.? Most worked, but some did not.? Since there is overlap,
what roles should Direwolf play, and what for the attached client
(YAAC in this case)?? I never got to the bottom of it.?
The Pi is the one in my car, rarely used on APRS since my mobile
rig has only one VFO and it's usually parked on the local
repeater.? So, not a high priority to fix, but I'd love to know
how one should implement something like this, particularly the
question of roles.? I was trying to make a
communicate-with-everything box, both iGate and as a Digi, moving
map display of local stations, messaging, etc.? I presume it still
works as it did, but it's been a couple of years.
Greg? KO6TH
Craig T. Bailey, N1SFT wrote:
Thanks Lynn!? ??
I figured my inquiry would receive the ubiquitous response…
“ask at the other forum…”? ?
?
Very good to know about the dedupes.? I
think I’ll pick one to serve as igate, though.? No sense in
making more work.
?
Craig
N1SFT
?
?
While that is a redundant setup,
nothing bad will happen.?? The APRS-IS servers de-dupe all
gated packets anyway, so you do not need to specify any
one as being "better" than the other.??
Lynn (D) -
KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
On 11/6/2022 7:16 PM, Craig T. Bailey,
N1SFT wrote:
Hello Direwolf users,
?
I understand Direwolf can act as an
RX\TX igate.? If it were paired with a client such as
APRSIS/32, what happens if both apps are setup to operate
as igates??
?
Is there a method/reason to consider
one igate better than another?
?
Thanks
?
?
Craig T. Bailey
A.R.S. N1SFT
Hudson, NH
(603)867-3607
?
?
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Re: question on duplicity
The APRS-IS will be fine (it's pretty bullet proof), but my
experience is that there could be some subtle problems, specifically
with messaging.? You can send a message, but who can see it and who
receives the reply?? It might have been a quirk with how I set
things up (this was with YAAC on a Raspberry Pi), but after noticing
the issue I ran through the combinations of source and sink (RF, IS,
various SSIDs, etc) until my head began to hurt.? Most worked, but
some did not.? Since there is overlap, what roles should Direwolf
play, and what for the attached client (YAAC in this case)?? I never
got to the bottom of it.?
The Pi is the one in my car, rarely used on APRS since my mobile rig
has only one VFO and it's usually parked on the local repeater.? So,
not a high priority to fix, but I'd love to know how one should
implement something like this, particularly the question of roles.?
I was trying to make a communicate-with-everything box, both iGate
and as a Digi, moving map display of local stations, messaging,
etc.? I presume it still works as it did, but it's been a couple of
years.
Greg? KO6TH
Craig T. Bailey, N1SFT wrote:
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Thanks Lynn!? ??
I figured my inquiry would receive the ubiquitous response…
“ask at the other forum…”? ?
?
Very good to know about the dedupes.? I
think I’ll pick one to serve as igate, though.? No sense in
making more work.
?
Craig
N1SFT
?
?
While that is a redundant setup, nothing
bad will happen.?? The APRS-IS servers de-dupe all gated
packets anyway, so you do not need to specify any one as
being "better" than the other.??
Lynn (D) -
KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
On 11/6/2022 7:16 PM, Craig T. Bailey,
N1SFT wrote:
Hello Direwolf users,
?
I understand Direwolf can act as an RX\TX
igate.? If it were paired with a client such as APRSIS/32,
what happens if both apps are setup to operate as igates??
?
Is there a method/reason to consider one
igate better than another?
?
Thanks
?
?
Craig T. Bailey
A.R.S. N1SFT
Hudson, NH
(603)867-3607
?
?
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Re: question on duplicity
Thanks Lynn!? ?? I figured my inquiry would receive the ubiquitous response… “ask at the other forum…”? ? ? Very good to know about the dedupes.? I think I’ll pick one to serve as igate, though.? No sense in making more work. ? Craig N1SFT ?
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Lynn Deffenbaugh Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2022 20:16 To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [direwolf] question on duplicity ? While that is a redundant setup, nothing bad will happen.?? The APRS-IS servers de-dupe all gated packets anyway, so you do not need to specify any one as being "better" than the other.?? Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
On 11/6/2022 7:16 PM, Craig T. Bailey, N1SFT wrote: Hello Direwolf users, ? I understand Direwolf can act as an RX\TX igate.? If it were paired with a client such as APRSIS/32, what happens if both apps are setup to operate as igates?? ? Is there a method/reason to consider one igate better than another? ? Thanks ? ? Craig T. Bailey A.R.S. N1SFT Hudson, NH (603)867-3607 ?
?
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Re: question on duplicity
While that is a redundant setup, nothing
bad will happen.?? The APRS-IS servers de-dupe all gated packets
anyway, so you do not need to specify any one as being "better"
than the other.??
Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE
for Windows Mobile and Win32
On 11/6/2022 7:16 PM, Craig T. Bailey,
N1SFT wrote:
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
Hello Direwolf users,
?
I understand Direwolf can act as an RX\TX
igate.? If it were paired with a client such as APRSIS/32,
what happens if both apps are setup to operate as igates??
?
Is there a method/reason to consider one
igate better than another?
?
Thanks
?
?
Craig T. Bailey
A.R.S. N1SFT
Hudson, NH
(603)867-3607
?
|
Hello Direwolf users, ? I understand Direwolf can act as an RX\TX igate.? If it were paired with a client such as APRSIS/32, what happens if both apps are setup to operate as igates?? ? Is there a method/reason to consider one igate better than another? ? Thanks ? ? Craig T. Bailey A.R.S. N1SFT Hudson, NH (603)867-3607 ?
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Re: RMS packet or BBS stations
On Sat, Nov 5, 2022 at 07:52 PM, Thomas Leibold wrote:
I have twice experienced hangs with DireWolf in connected mode sessions to a JNOS BBS.
Simply saying that it hangs is not helpful. Please tell us more about the system configuration and include a log of all packets, in both directions, with timestamps, so we can see what is going on. Thanks.
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Re: RMS packet or BBS stations
Hello Thomas,
Was that connecting with Direwolf's native TCP-KISS port, the AGW
port, or via the pseudo-serial port with Linux's built-in AX.25
stack?? I cannot comment on use with JNOS and forwarding with
heavy amounts of traffic but I can say that with the Linux AX.25
stack, I have found Direwolf 1.7-DEV to be very stable with light
connected mode traffic.? I would think JNOS+AGW+Direwolf should be
very reliable.
--David
KI6ZHD
On 11/06/2022 01:19 PM, Thomas Leibold
wrote:
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Hi John,
The hangs were with DireWolf 1.7 ('dev' branch from 10/19/2022) running on openSuSE Linux. I plan to retry those same tests with the released version of DireWolf 1.6 that I have running on Ubuntu 22 LTS.
The test scenario is pretty simple and 2 out of 3 tests failed within just a few minutes..
73,
Thomas
KK6FPP
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Re: RMS packet or BBS stations
Hi John,
The hangs were with DireWolf 1.7 ('dev' branch from 10/19/2022) running on openSuSE Linux. I plan to retry those same tests with the released version of DireWolf 1.6 that I have running on Ubuntu 22 LTS.
The test scenario is pretty simple and 2 out of 3 tests failed within just a few minutes..
73,
Thomas
KK6FPP
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Re: RMS packet or BBS stations
On Sat, Nov 5, 2022 at 04:52 PM, Thomas Leibold wrote:
I have twice experienced hangs with DireWolf in connected mode sessions to a JNOS BBS.
What operating system was Direwolf running on?
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Re: RMS packet or BBS stations
 Direwolf running APRS Igate Midland XTR the only reason its 324 days was because the power bumped at the site
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Re: RMS packet or BBS stations
Direwolf is also very stable for me. I never have to restart it. I'm using it with one sound device and VHF radio for now. It's a port on a G8BPQ node with BBS - also on an Odroid XU4. The OS is Ubuntu 20.04.
73, Lee K5DAT
Do you operate a Winlink RMS packet or BBS station, using Direwolf as a TNC? If so, what operating system runs Direwolf? Does Direwolf run continuously for days or weeks? Does it handle much traffic? Has it worked well for you?
I'm not asking about APRS stations or end-users of messaging, for example Winlink Express (AKA RMS Express) or Outpost.
I'm thinking of using Direwolf in some BBS stations that run on Ubuntu Linux, operate with three radios each, handle a good deal of message traffic and run 24/7 for months at a time. It would be nice to have some evidence that Direwolf can stand up to this kind of load. I hope it doesn't steadily use more and more memory, lose packets that flow simultaneously through several radios, or suffer from other software problems.
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Re: Digipeater and I-Gate
Thanks,
Yes I will read this PDF, to understand, Thank you for helping me get started on this project
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Hello Luc,
I recommend to start with reading
which should get you going.? The Direwolf User Guide can be
reviewed for other details and you can always ask specific
questions here on this list!
--David
KI6ZHD
On 11/05/2022 03:16 PM, Luc Drolet
VE2LUQ wrote:
Hello to you,
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Can I get help building an 'APRS' digipeater and accessing
I-GATE, I'd like to use a raspbery Pi if possible or maybe
something else would be better?
?
Or how can I do to have a good digipeater system with I-GATE?
because on my repeater sites I always have internet on my
sites in the mountains where I can install my repeaters
?
How or what to use to have a DIGIPEATER system with I-GATE on
the mountains in my area
?
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction so I can put
this to work
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Have a good evening
Luc
VE2LUQ
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John Kristian
Craig T. Bailey, N1SFT