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GitHUb for me is complicated (as in I have never looked at how to use it).?
I like having a source with download.
Ralph
John,
I wonder why neither you nor Oleg, both creators of widely used and open-source ELS systems, don't use GitHub (or similar) service to publish source code.
I feel that publishing code on , internet forums or personal websites is more or less one-way affair (creator shares his content for other to copy / replicate).
Meanwhile a platform such as GitHub is very convenient for collaboration, it's very easy for anyone to fork the project, make some improvements, and then submit a pull request to the original author. They also have built-in issue tracker allowing users (or maintainers) to report bugs / ask for features. Consider this for your next version, please :)
Cheers,
--Gene
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You can simply download the source at GitHub. All the complicated stuff is for when you¡¯re collaborating on or publishing software, or using it as a source control system for multiple servers and users.
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GitHUb for me is complicated (as in I have never looked at how to use it).?
I like having a source with download.
Ralph John,
I wonder why neither you nor Oleg, both creators of widely used and open-source ELS systems, don't use GitHub (or similar) service to publish source code.
I feel that publishing code on , internet forums or personal websites is more or less one-way affair (creator shares his content for other to copy / replicate).
Meanwhile a platform such as GitHub is very convenient for collaboration, it's very easy for anyone to fork the project, make some improvements, and then submit a pull request to the original author. They also have built-in issue tracker allowing users (or maintainers) to report bugs / ask for features. Consider this for your next version, please :)
Cheers,
--Gene
-- Clausing 8520, Craftsman 12x36 Lathe, 4x12 mini lathe, 14" Delta drill press, 40 watt laser, Consew brushless DC motors and a non working 3D printer
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Hi Bruce, yes sometimes I can just hit the download as a zip file but sometimes I cannot find a download when I "think" there should be one and then there are times ...
Ralph
You can simply download the source at GitHub. All the complicated stuff is for when you¡¯re collaborating on or publishing software, or using it as a source control system for multiple servers and users.
GitHUb for me is complicated (as in I have never looked at how to use it).?
I like having a source with download.
Ralph John,
I wonder why neither you nor Oleg, both creators of widely used and open-source ELS systems, don't use GitHub (or similar) service to publish source code.
I feel that publishing code on , internet forums or personal websites is more or less one-way affair (creator shares his content for other to copy / replicate).
Meanwhile a platform such as GitHub is very convenient for collaboration, it's very easy for anyone to fork the project, make some improvements, and then submit a pull request to the original author. They also have built-in issue tracker allowing users (or maintainers) to report bugs / ask for features. Consider this for your next version, please :)
Cheers,
--Gene
-- Clausing 8520, Craftsman 12x36 Lathe, 4x12 mini lathe, 14" Delta drill press, 40 watt laser, Consew brushless DC motors and a non working 3D printer
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Don't get me started on why I dislike GitHub with a passion.? Really needs a different subject line. ? John Dammeyer ? ?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gene Pavlovsky
Sent: October-19-20 12:35 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [digitalhobbyist] No compound? John,
I wonder why neither you nor Oleg, both creators of widely used and open-source ELS systems, don't use GitHub (or similar) service to publish source code.
I feel that publishing code on groups.io, internet forums or personal websites is more or less one-way affair (creator shares his content for other to copy / replicate).
Meanwhile a platform such as GitHub is very convenient for collaboration, it's very easy for anyone to fork the project, make some improvements, and then submit a pull request to the original author. They also have built-in issue tracker allowing users (or maintainers) to report bugs / ask for features. Consider this for your next version, please :)
Cheers,
--Gene
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You might like it when you get to know it better. Example: 1. You clone the repository. This results in you obtaining a mirror copy of the project, including all source code. 2. If some one makes a mod, they can push it to GitHub 3. You can get their mod by performing a git pull.
Git was developed by Linus Torvald when he was working on Linux. It's a great way of having someone make a code modification available to a whole group of people who can then download and test it and decide if they wan to keep it.
GitHub will scale to a bunch of folk working on a single software system on their own platform very well.
Jonathan
On Monday, October 19, 2020, 12:59:24 PM PDT, Ralph Hulslander <rhulslander@...> wrote:
GitHUb for me is complicated (as in I have never looked at how to use it).?
I like having a source with download.
Ralph
John,
I wonder why neither you nor Oleg, both creators of widely used and open-source ELS systems, don't use GitHub (or similar) service to publish source code.
I feel that publishing code on , internet forums or personal websites is more or less one-way affair (creator shares his content for other to copy / replicate).
Meanwhile a platform such as GitHub is very convenient for collaboration, it's very easy for anyone to fork the project, make some improvements, and then submit a pull request to the original author. They also have built-in issue tracker allowing users (or maintainers) to report bugs / ask for features. Consider this for your next version, please :)
Cheers,
--Gene
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Gene Interesting post and may I thank you for your past contributions. A question was asked by Ralph about? 4 months ago," is the ELS open source".? apparently not, as to be safe ELS code files were pulled from this forum. I as the owner of this group have never had any correspondence from Oleg, to either join us and or any clams or litigation processes to cease and desist in the use of his base codes. Who is Oleg, ' where does he live, ?, it?s a mystery similat to who is Banksy ? Any help in contacting him would benefit us all. The initial object of creating this digitalhobbyist forum was the sharing of ideas on any digital based hobbies, but it seems to me that there is slowly a wedge being driven between members. This must stop please, lets stay friendly. I do not want to come down with the heavy hand of moderating posts, lets all work together and enjoy our hobbies.? John D, I ask you please to resist in the use of advertising your own .io groups agenda and business on my forum, this is not what I intended, I have let you get away with it for over a year, but it must stop now.? if you feel you need to discuss issues with me then please do , via personal email to?? bechetboat@...? All members, please be safe, stay vigilant, as we are all walking into uncharted times, the worst is yet to come I feel. and possibly more than 2-3 years for a proven vaccine, and availabilty for over 50 years of age people maybe longer. Just be happy and enjoy what we all have now. Thanks all members for your past contributions. John Lindo Owner. -- John
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On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 01:24 PM, John Dammeyer wrote:
Don't get me started on why I dislike GitHub with a passion.? Really needs a different subject line.
I'll start a new thread, John :) --Gene
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On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 01:22 PM, Ralph Hulslander wrote:
Hi Bruce, yes sometimes I can just hit the download as a zip file but sometimes I cannot find a download
when I "think" there should be one and then there are times ...
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Ralph, It depends on whether the maintainers actually create releases. If they do, there will be a "Releases" link listing all the versions with corresponding zip / tar.gz files to download. Some projects don't make releases as such, you're supposed to build the code yourself (hopefully there some instructions for that). In this case you have to clone the repo using git, or there is also an option to download a zip of the repo's current state. But I'll start a new topic where we can discuss all the details :) --Gene
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On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 10:39 PM, John Lindo wrote:
A question was asked by Ralph about? 4 months ago," is the ELS open source".?
apparently not, as to be safe ELS code files were pulled from this forum.
I as the owner of this group have never had any correspondence from Oleg, to either join us
and or any clams or litigation processes to cease and desist in the use of his base codes.
Who is Oleg, ' where does he live, ?, it?s a mystery similat to who is Banksy ?
Any help in contacting him would benefit us all.
John, I don't know that much about Oleg, apparently he's from Riga and he speaks Russian. He has a (currently) for discussing his ELS on a Russian-speaking machinist forum chipmaker.ru. Don't blame Google Translate for poor command of Russian, it's actually pretty accurate. The project is indeed called "yet another Arduino-based electronic guitar" (the zip files with the source code are named DigitalFeed_version.zip). A metalworking machine's "guitar" refers to the change gear mechanism, according to a dictionary the term was coined because the gearbox housing was shaped similar to a guitar's body. I had in fact asked him recently about the open source status of the project, and got some replies. You can read it , use Google Translate. To summarize, the project is indeed open source, you're free to do whatever you want with the source code, as long as you don't try to make any profit from it. Oleg tried to spend some hours reading about the various open source licenses, but found them hard to understand without a lawyer, and it seems to me he wants to be sure of the non-profit aspect, which is AFAIK not prohibited by common open source licenses. : Oleg: Any modifications for personal use and free distribution, not for sale - I won't have any complaints. As for the license... probably later, for the next version.
The initial object of creating this digitalhobbyist forum was the sharing of ideas on any digital based hobbies, but it seems
to me that there is slowly a wedge being driven between members. This must stop please, lets stay friendly.
I do not want to come down with the heavy hand of moderating posts, lets all work together and enjoy our hobbies.?
I must have missed something as I didn't notice anything besides a friendly discussion? Take care everyone --Gene
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On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 09:58 AM, Gene Pavlovsky wrote:
Well done Gene
You can read it?, use Google Translate. To summarize, the project is indeed open source, you're free to do whatever you want with the source code, as long as you don't try to make any profit from it.?
Worthy of note.
John
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Perhaps you missed it, John L, but John D stated that his software is also open source. IIRC, so is the hardware. He sells kits, but some folks have made their own. Some of the hardware is no longer available, so the few kits left are all there are. He's working on an updated version, and sharing that info, too. I believe you owe him an apology.
I've been a member of his group for over a decade, and never seen a hint of him pushing his system over others.?
Bill in OKC
On Tuesday, October 20, 2020, 06:08:27 AM CDT, John Lindo <bechetboat@...> wrote:
On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 09:58 AM, Gene Pavlovsky wrote:
Well done Gene
You can read it?, use Google Translate. To summarize, the project is indeed open source, you're free to do whatever you want with the source code, as long as you don't try to make any profit from it.?
Worthy of note.
John
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Thank you Gene, now can we put the latest RELS back in the files with a NOT FOR PROFIT notice.
Ralph
On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 9:50 AM Bill in OKC too via <wmrmeyers= [email protected]> wrote: Perhaps you missed it, John L, but John D stated that his software is also open source. IIRC, so is the hardware. He sells kits, but some folks have made their own. Some of the hardware is no longer available, so the few kits left are all there are. He's working on an updated version, and sharing that info, too. I believe you owe him an apology.
I've been a member of his group for over a decade, and never seen a hint of him pushing his system over others.?
Bill in OKC
On Tuesday, October 20, 2020, 06:08:27 AM CDT, John Lindo < bechetboat@...> wrote:
On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 09:58 AM, Gene Pavlovsky wrote:
Well done Gene
You can read it?, use Google Translate. To summarize, the project is indeed open source, you're free to do whatever you want with the source code, as long as you don't try to make any profit from it.?
Worthy of note.
John
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Bill
Yes I did miss John D?s post reference "open source". Yes, John D has his own forum for marketing, so? maybe I can persuade him to change? his sign off when in the digitalhobbyist forum. It always reads?like an advertisement? which @ does not allow unless prior permission is granted and then you are in for added yearly payments for using a forum.
I will send him a private email.
Stay safe
John L
On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 at 15:50, Bill in OKC too via <wmrmeyers= [email protected]> wrote: Perhaps you missed it, John L, but John D stated that his software is also open source. IIRC, so is the hardware. He sells kits, but some folks have made their own. Some of the hardware is no longer available, so the few kits left are all there are. He's working on an updated version, and sharing that info, too. I believe you owe him an apology.
I've been a member of his group for over a decade, and never seen a hint of him pushing his system over others.?
Bill in OKC
On Tuesday, October 20, 2020, 06:08:27 AM CDT, John Lindo < bechetboat@...> wrote:
On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 09:58 AM, Gene Pavlovsky wrote:
Well done Gene
You can read it?, use Google Translate. To summarize, the project is indeed open source, you're free to do whatever you want with the source code, as long as you don't try to make any profit from it.?
Worthy of note.
John
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Bill in OKC too