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Linking Ratflectors


 

I searched conversations here to make sure I'm not repeating anyone.

Has anyone succeeded in linking two different ratflectors together not over RF?


What I mean is ratflector 1 is in town A, ratflector 2 is in town B.?

When someone uses ratflector 1 it also shows up on ratflector 2.

I saw on the D-STAR yahoo group guys did it by using firewall rules in their routers. They could use mail, chat and file sharing over both ratflector networks. Both of them are no longer HAMS and I requested membership in that yahoo group over 3 months ago and never got approved.


Keith

kc2oon?




 

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Its even simpler. ?In one ratflector, define anorher ratflector just like you define a radio except it's a network connection. ?I've done it successfully several times. ?Just be careful that you don't setup a loop.

Johm WB4QDX

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-------- Original message --------
From: "kc2oon@... [d-rats_group]"
Date:01/13/2015 11:52 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: d-rats_group@...
Subject: [d-rats_group] Linking Ratflectors

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I searched conversations here to make sure I'm not repeating anyone.

Has anyone succeeded in linking two different ratflectors together not over RF?


What I mean is ratflector 1 is in town A, ratflector 2 is in town B.?

When someone uses ratflector 1 it also shows up on ratflector 2.

I saw on the D-STAR yahoo group guys did it by using firewall rules in their routers. They could use mail, chat and file sharing over both ratflector networks. Both of them are no longer HAMS and I requested membership in that yahoo group over 3 months ago and never got approved.


Keith

kc2oon?




 

I take this a step further. I never want to take my primary ratflector
down. I've noticed if I take the ratflector down to add a link the
D-RATS clients connected to it don't always reconnect and the user may
not know they are kicked off.

So, I have a primary ratflector that stays up all the time, and my users
connect to it. If I want to link different ratflectors I start a new
instance of the ratflector app and link it to my primary ratflector and
any others I want to link in (including via RF). If the linking
ratflector goes down it doesn't kick users off the primary ratflector.

Dan
W4DTO

On 01/13/2015 01:15 PM, John Davis wb4qdx@... [d-rats_group] wrote:
Its even simpler. In one ratflector, define anorher ratflector just like you define a radio except it's a network connection. I've done it successfully several times. Just be careful that you don't setup a loop.

Johm WB4QDX


 

When you say "?I start a new?instance of the ratflector app and link it to my primary ratflector" are you running the repeater program twice on one computer or two different computers?
I understand the concept but didn't know you could run more than one instance of the repeater program on one computer.
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Keith Yodice
Call : kc2oon
Ocean County Skywarn Asst. Coordinator
National Weather Service Skywarn Program
http://www.qsl.net/kc2elg/

Ocean County ARES
www.WA2RES.com
Emergency Management Communications
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On Tuesday, January 13, 2015 1:29 PM, "Dan Ozment dan@... [d-rats_group]" wrote:


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I take this a step further. I never want to take my primary ratflector
down. I've noticed if I take the ratflector down to add a link the
D-RATS clients connected to it don't always reconnect and the user may
not know they are kicked off.

So, I have a primary ratflector that stays up all the time, and my users
connect to it. If I want to link different ratflectors I start a new
instance of the ratflector app and link it to my primary ratflector and
any others I want to link in (including via RF). If the linking
ratflector goes down it doesn't kick users off the primary ratflector.

Dan
W4DTO

On 01/13/2015 01:15 PM, John Davis wb4qdx@... [d-rats_group] wrote:
> Its even simpler. In one ratflector, define anorher ratflector just like you define a radio except it's a network connection. I've done it successfully several times. Just be careful that you don't setup a loop.
>
> Johm WB4QDX



 

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Are you using a different callsign for the 2nd ratflector instance? I would think using the same callsign would be very close to the loop John warns against.

I take down occasionally for system updates. I send out a QST stating the system is gong offline for a few minutes (or hours) for updates. That way the users know to reconnect after the system reboots. The ratflector automatically restarts as a system service after reboot.

Mike, N0SO


On Jan 13, 2015, at 12:29 PM, Dan Ozment dan@... [d-rats_group] <d-rats_group@...> wrote:

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I take this a step further. I never want to take my primary ratflector
down. I've noticed if I take the ratflector down to add a link the
D-RATS clients connected to it don't always reconnect and the user may
not know they are kicked off.

So, I have a primary ratflector that stays up all the time, and my users
connect to it. If I want to link different ratflectors I start a new
instance of the ratflector app and link it to my primary ratflector and
any others I want to link in (including via RF). If the linking
ratflector goes down it doesn't kick users off the primary ratflector.

Dan
W4DTO

On 01/13/2015 01:15 PM, John Davis wb4qdx@... [d-rats_group] wrote:
> Its even simpler. In one ratflector, define anorher ratflector just like you define a radio except it's a network connection. I've done it successfully several times. Just be careful that you don't setup a loop.
>
> Johm WB4QDX


 

You need to use a different call sign. You cant get on using the same call sign from different locations. My raspberry pi that runs my ratflector is KC2OON-E (E for experimental).
My laptop is plain old KC2OON. My work computer is KC2OON-W.?
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Keith Yodice
Call : kc2oon
Ocean County Skywarn Asst. Coordinator
National Weather Service Skywarn Program
http://www.qsl.net/kc2elg/

Ocean County ARES
www.WA2RES.com
Emergency Management Communications
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On Wednesday, January 14, 2015 7:16 AM, "Mike Heitmann n0so@... [d-rats_group]" wrote:


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Are you using a different callsign for the 2nd ratflector instance? I would think using the same callsign would be very close to the loop John warns against.

I take down occasionally for system updates. I send out a QST stating the system is gong offline for a few minutes (or hours) for updates. That way the users know to reconnect after the system reboots. The ratflector automatically restarts as a system service after reboot.

Mike, N0SO


On Jan 13, 2015, at 12:29 PM, Dan Ozment dan@... [d-rats_group] <d-rats_group@...> wrote:

?
I take this a step further. I never want to take my primary ratflector
down. I've noticed if I take the ratflector down to add a link the
D-RATS clients connected to it don't always reconnect and the user may
not know they are kicked off.

So, I have a primary ratflector that stays up all the time, and my users
connect to it. If I want to link different ratflectors I start a new
instance of the ratflector app and link it to my primary ratflector and
any others I want to link in (including via RF). If the linking
ratflector goes down it doesn't kick users off the primary ratflector.

Dan
W4DTO

On 01/13/2015 01:15 PM, John Davis wb4qdx@... [d-rats_group] wrote:
> Its even simpler. In one ratflector, define anorher ratflector just like you define a radio except it's a network connection. I've done it successfully several times. Just be careful that you don't setup a loop.
>
> Johm WB4QDX



 

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Sorry I didn't get back to you on this.? My laptop died on Wednesday afternoon, and I spent the evening trying to revive it.? Before I say more on this I would like to get to my setup and document exactly what I was able to do.?

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Great idea to send out a QST before taking the ratflector down.?

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Dan

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From: d-rats_group@... [mailto:d-rats_group@...]
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 7:16 AM
To:
Subject: Re: [d-rats_group] Linking Ratflectors

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Are you using a different callsign for the 2nd ratflector instance? I would think using the same callsign would be very close to the loop John warns against.

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I take down occasionally for system updates. I send out a QST stating the system is gong offline for a few minutes (or hours) for updates. That way the users know to reconnect after the system reboots. The ratflector automatically restarts as a system service after reboot.

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Mike, N0SO

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