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How big of a deal is it really? ;-) It's only up for 2-3 seconds.


On May 16, 2013, at 7:51 PM, Chip <cfm@...> wrote:

I thought the SIMPL Windows splash was annoying.

This is exponentially worse.

Clearly the people that implemented this thinking it was a good idea have never tried to use more than one application at a time on their computers.

- Chip

--- In Crestron@..., Marc Nield <nieldm@...> wrote:

Is it me or is that new, pretty Toolbox startup splash more annoying than useful? You start an upload or a compile and then think "oh I'll start Toolbox" then you can't see what's going on for as long as it takes Toolbox to start coz the damn splash hogs the screen and won't go away.

Like I said, maybe I am doing something wrong, but if I am not I can't believe I am alone in my grumpiness….

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2 to 3 seconds? So you upgraded to the ziili-core Cray with three trillbytes of RAM ….. sweet…

On 17 May 2013, at 13:08, Heath Volmer <hvolmer@...> wrote:

How big of a deal is it really? ;-) It's only up for 2-3 seconds.


On May 16, 2013, at 7:51 PM, Chip <cfm@...> wrote:

I thought the SIMPL Windows splash was annoying.

This is exponentially worse.

Clearly the people that implemented this thinking it was a good idea have never tried to use more than one application at a time on their computers.

- Chip

--- In Crestron@..., Marc Nield <nieldm@...> wrote:

Is it me or is that new, pretty Toolbox startup splash more annoying than useful? You start an upload or a compile and then think "oh I'll start Toolbox" then you can't see what's going on for as long as it takes Toolbox to start coz the damn splash hogs the screen and won't go away.

Like I said, maybe I am doing something wrong, but if I am not I can't believe I am alone in my grumpiness….

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Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the Database area.
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Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the Database area.
Yahoo! Groups Links






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Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the Database area.
Yahoo! Groups Links

Stays in front on mine, but not for long.

Heath Volmer
Digital Domain Systems
Littleton, CO

Sent from my iTypo 4

On May 17, 2013, at 12:50 PM, Neil Dorin <neildorin@...> wrote:

The splash screen sits behind whatever window I open over it.... I don't see the issue.

Sent from my iPhone

On 2013-05-17, at 12:37 PM, Jeremy Weatherford <jweather@...> wrote:

Slow isn't the problem... having it always on top is the problem. At least
with SIMPL Windows I can load it in the background while I'm surfing the
yahoo group. (or more commonly, start 3-5 instances right after reboot and
then be ready to go until one crashes...)

On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Tray Schaeffer
<trayschaeffer@...>wrote:

Guess Crestron is doing rather well if we spend time nit-picking a splash
screen... :)

Tray

From: Paul Cunningham
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 12:35 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: RE: [Crestron] Re: Pretty Toolbox splash


For me the initial load with the splash screen takes several seconds - but
if I close it afterwards, it reopens in 1 second or so each time - I have
it set to not open a default workspace or connect to anything on startup,
maybe that's the difference.

Windows 7 64-bit SP1, Intel i5-2320 3GHz, 6GB RAM; I was also running
AutoCAD, Firefox, Outlook, Acrobat and several background processes at the
same time during this "test." Time to upgrade?

-----Original Message-----
From: mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:Crestron%
40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of weddellkw
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 3:45 PM
To: mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Crestron] Re: Pretty Toolbox splash

Ugh, no, it's terrible. I used to open and close Toolbox on a regular
basis as I needed it, now I leave it open simply to avoid the Splash screen.

--- In mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com, Marc Nield <nieldm@> wrote:

Is it me or is that new, pretty Toolbox startup splash more annoying

than useful? You start an upload or a compile and then think "oh I'll start
Toolbox" then you can't see what's going on for as long as it takes Toolbox
to start coz the damn splash hogs the screen and won't go away.

Like I said, maybe I am doing something wrong, but if I am not I can't

believe I am alone in my grumpiness....

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Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the
Database area.
Yahoo!
Groups Links





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Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.

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--
Jeremy Weatherford

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Its 10-15 seconds but my computer may qualify as an antique at this
point...just trying to hang on till these Haswell chips are shipping in a
Thinkpad.


--- In Crestron@..., Heath Volmer <hvolmer@...> wrote:

Stays in front on mine, but not for long.

Heath Volmer
Digital Domain Systems
Littleton, CO

Sent from my iTypo 4

On May 17, 2013, at 12:50 PM, Neil Dorin <neildorin@...> wrote:

The splash screen sits behind whatever window I open over it.... I

don't see the issue.

Sent from my iPhone

On 2013-05-17, at 12:37 PM, Jeremy Weatherford <jweather@...> wrote:

Slow isn't the problem... having it always on top is the problem. At

least

with SIMPL Windows I can load it in the background while I'm surfing

the

yahoo group. (or more commonly, start 3-5 instances right after

reboot and

then be ready to go until one crashes...)

On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Tray Schaeffer
<trayschaeffer@...>wrote:

Guess Crestron is doing rather well if we spend time nit-picking a

splash

screen... :)

Tray

From: Paul Cunningham
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 12:35 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: RE: [Crestron] Re: Pretty Toolbox splash


For me the initial load with the splash screen takes several

seconds - but

if I close it afterwards, it reopens in 1 second or so each time -

I have

it set to not open a default workspace or connect to anything on

startup,

maybe that's the difference.

Windows 7 64-bit SP1, Intel i5-2320 3GHz, 6GB RAM; I was also

running

AutoCAD, Firefox, Outlook, Acrobat and several background

processes at the

same time during this "test." Time to upgrade?

-----Original Message-----
From: mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:Crestron%
40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of weddellkw
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 3:45 PM
To: mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Crestron] Re: Pretty Toolbox splash

Ugh, no, it's terrible. I used to open and close Toolbox on a

regular

basis as I needed it, now I leave it open simply to avoid the

Splash screen.

--- In mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com, Marc Nield <nieldm@>

wrote:

Is it me or is that new, pretty Toolbox startup splash more

annoying

than useful? You start an upload or a compile and then think "oh

I'll start

Toolbox" then you can't see what's going on for as long as it

takes Toolbox

to start coz the damn splash hogs the screen and won't go away.

Like I said, maybe I am doing something wrong, but if I am not I

can't

believe I am alone in my grumpiness....

------------------------------------

Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and

drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in

the

Database area.

Yahoo!

Groups Links





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Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and

drivers.

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the

Database area.

Yahoo!

Groups Links

--
Jeremy Weatherford

Retina MacBook Pro here w/SSD. Running VMWare Fusion, with 4 assigned cores
and 4GB assigned memory. Win7 Pro x64.

Initial launch = just under 4s
Subsequent = 2s

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Diverging: Chris, have you tried two vs. four cores in Fusion? I'm
curious. In the past I always found two to be faster than four, but I'll
try again if something has changed.


On May 17, 2013, at 2:08 PM, Chris Niles <chris.niles.crestron@...>
wrote:

Retina MacBook Pro here w/SSD. Running VMWare Fusion, with 4 assigned

cores

and 4GB assigned memory. Win7 Pro x64.

Initial launch = just under 4s
Subsequent = 2s

How big of a deal is it really? ;-) It's only up for 2-3 seconds.


On May 16, 2013, at 7:51 PM, Chip <cfm@...> wrote:

I thought the SIMPL Windows splash was annoying.

This is exponentially worse.

Clearly the people that implemented this thinking it was a good idea have never tried to use more than one application at a time on their computers.

- Chip

--- In Crestron@..., Marc Nield <nieldm@> wrote:

Is it me or is that new, pretty Toolbox startup splash more annoying than useful? You start an upload or a compile and then think "oh I'll start Toolbox" then you can't see what's going on for as long as it takes Toolbox to start coz the damn splash hogs the screen and won't go away.

Like I said, maybe I am doing something wrong, but if I am not I can't believe I am alone in my grumpiness….

How big of a deal is it really? ;-) It's only up for 2-3 seconds.


On May 16, 2013, at 7:51 PM, Chip <cfm@...> wrote:

I thought the SIMPL Windows splash was annoying.

This is exponentially worse.

Clearly the people that implemented this thinking it was a good idea have never tried to use more than one application at a time on their computers.

- Chip

--- In Crestron@..., Marc Nield <nieldm@> wrote:

Is it me or is that new, pretty Toolbox startup splash more annoying than useful? You start an upload or a compile and then think "oh I'll start Toolbox" then you can't see what's going on for as long as it takes Toolbox to start coz the damn splash hogs the screen and won't go away.

Like I said, maybe I am doing something wrong, but if I am not I can't believe I am alone in my grumpiness....

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The splash screen sits behind whatever window I open over it.... I don't see the issue.

Wait, the splash is only displayed for 2-3 seconds, or it takes 2-3 seconds after launching Toolbox for the splash to be displayed?

On a good day I might be in the latter; I can't fathom the former.

Lincoln

You're either not running the current version or you need to share your secret. The current version laughs at me when I try to open Outlook, Firefox, SIMPL Windows, VTPro...whatever - it's ALL hidden under the splash screen that rules *over* them all.

- Chip


--- In Crestron@..., Neil Dorin <neildorin@> wrote:

The splash screen sits behind whatever window I open over it.... I don't see the issue.

Hey Chip. When you say current version, are you referring to release or labs beta? I'm pretty sure I remember this painful, can be timed with a sundial toolbox version that is current release right now, but with the current beta / RC versions on labs they have greatly improved start time, either on purpose or by accident - we may never know. I just tested with 3 instances of simpl (1 in the act of compiling) and vt pro with a behemoth core3 project compiling as well. Startup time from click to visible workspace was 3.5 seconds. My pc is definitely above average but no super beast. (i7, 8gb, ssd primary).

--- In Crestron@..., "Chip" <cfm@> wrote:

You're either not running the current version or you need to share your secret. The current version laughs at me when I try to open Outlook, Firefox, SIMPL Windows, VTPro...whatever - it's ALL hidden under the splash screen that rules *over* them all.

- Chip


--- In Crestron@..., Neil Dorin <neildorin@> wrote:

The splash screen sits behind whatever window I open over it.... I don't see the issue.

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Release. I haven't had the luxury of being able to play with labs stuff
for months. :(

- Chip


--- In Crestron@..., "Dustin" <dustin@...> wrote:

Hey Chip. When you say current version, are you referring to release or

labs beta? I'm pretty sure I remember this painful, can be timed with a
sundial toolbox version that is current release right now, but with the
current beta / RC versions on labs they have greatly improved start time,
either on purpose or by accident - we may never know. I just tested with 3
instances of simpl (1 in the act of compiling) and vt pro with a behemoth
core3 project compiling as well. Startup time from click to visible
workspace was 3.5 seconds. My pc is definitely above average but no super
beast. (i7, 8gb, ssd primary).

--- In Crestron@..., "Chip" <cfm@> wrote:

You're either not running the current version or you need to share

your secret. The current version laughs at me when I try to open Outlook,
Firefox, SIMPL Windows, VTPro...whatever - it's ALL hidden under the splash
screen that rules *over* them all.

- Chip


--- In Crestron@..., Neil Dorin <neildorin@> wrote:

The splash screen sits behind whatever window I open over it.... I

don't see the issue.

I agree. Before this Toolbox would just sit there not moving, and we just had to hope it was working. Now at least there is action to reassure us.

--- In Crestron@..., "robbie_ray" <rlray@> wrote:

As my computer has grown older, I find that I appreciate an acknowledgement that the program actually started after I clicked the icon.

Nothing more annoying than after waiting 5 minutes winding up with 3 instances of Toolbox open...

--- In Crestron@..., Marc Nield <nieldm@> wrote:

Is it me or is that new, pretty Toolbox startup splash more annoying than useful? You start an upload or a compile and then think "oh I'll start Toolbox" then you can't see what's going on for as long as it takes Toolbox to start coz the damn splash hogs the screen and won't go away.

Like I said, maybe I am doing something wrong, but if I am not I can't believe I am alone in my grumpiness….