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Is it me or is that new, pretty Toolbox startup splash more annoying than useful? You start an upload or a compile and then think "oh I'll start Toolbox" then you can't see what's going on for as long as it takes Toolbox to start coz the damn splash hogs the screen and won't go away.

Like I said, maybe I am doing something wrong, but if I am not I can't believe I am alone in my grumpiness鈥�.

Ugh, no, it's terrible. I used to open and close Toolbox on a regular basis as I needed it, now I leave it open simply to avoid the Splash screen.

I thought the SIMPL Windows splash was annoying.

This is exponentially worse.

Clearly the people that implemented this thinking it was a good idea have never tried to use more than one application at a time on their computers.

- Chip

You guys are all haters.

I think it's pretty :)
On 2013-05-16, at 7:51 PM, "Chip" <cfm@...> wrote:

I thought the SIMPL Windows splash was annoying.

This is exponentially worse.

Clearly the people that implemented this thinking it was a good idea have never tried to use more than one application at a time on their computers.

- Chip

--- In Crestron@..., Marc Nield <nieldm@...> wrote:

Is it me or is that new, pretty Toolbox startup splash more annoying than useful? You start an upload or a compile and then think "oh I'll start Toolbox" then you can't see what's going on for as long as it takes Toolbox to start coz the damn splash hogs the screen and won't go away.

Like I said, maybe I am doing something wrong, but if I am not I can't believe I am alone in my grumpiness鈥�.

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+1
Em 16/05/2013 23:16, Neil Dorin escreveu:

You guys are all haters.

I think it's pretty :)

Sent from my iPhone

On 2013-05-16, at 7:51 PM, "Chip" <cfm@... <mailto:cfm%40vca.com>>
wrote:

I thought the SIMPL Windows splash was annoying.

This is exponentially worse.

Clearly the people that implemented this thinking it was a good idea

have never tried to use more than one application at a time on their
computers.

- Chip

--- In Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>,

Marc Nield <nieldm@...> wrote:

Is it me or is that new, pretty Toolbox startup splash more

annoying than useful? You start an upload or a compile and then think
"oh I'll start Toolbox" then you can't see what's going on for as long
as it takes Toolbox to start coz the damn splash hogs the screen and
won't go away.

Like I said, maybe I am doing something wrong, but if I am not I

can't believe I am alone in my grumpiness鈥�.

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As my computer has grown older, I find that I appreciate an acknowledgement that the program actually started after I clicked the icon.

Nothing more annoying than after waiting 5 minutes winding up with 3 instances of Toolbox open...

Looks great on my dedicated Toolbox laptop. It's not like I need to do
anything else at the same time...


On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 10:16 PM, Neil Dorin <neildorin@...> wrote:

You guys are all haters.

I think it's pretty :)

Sent from my iPhone

On 2013-05-16, at 7:51 PM, "Chip" <cfm@...> wrote:

I thought the SIMPL Windows splash was annoying.

This is exponentially worse.

Clearly the people that implemented this thinking it was a good idea

have never tried to use more than one application at a time on their
computers.

- Chip

--- In Crestron@..., Marc Nield <nieldm@...> wrote:

Is it me or is that new, pretty Toolbox startup splash more annoying

than useful? You start an upload or a compile and then think "oh I'll start
Toolbox" then you can't see what's going on for as long as it takes Toolbox
to start coz the damn splash hogs the screen and won't go away.

Like I said, maybe I am doing something wrong, but if I am not I can't

believe I am alone in my grumpiness�.

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How big of a deal is it really? ;-) It's only up for 2-3 seconds.


On May 16, 2013, at 7:51 PM, Chip <cfm@...> wrote:

I thought the SIMPL Windows splash was annoying.

This is exponentially worse.

Clearly the people that implemented this thinking it was a good idea have never tried to use more than one application at a time on their computers.

- Chip

--- In Crestron@..., Marc Nield <nieldm@...> wrote:

Is it me or is that new, pretty Toolbox startup splash more annoying than useful? You start an upload or a compile and then think "oh I'll start Toolbox" then you can't see what's going on for as long as it takes Toolbox to start coz the damn splash hogs the screen and won't go away.

Like I said, maybe I am doing something wrong, but if I am not I can't believe I am alone in my grumpiness�.

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--- In Crestron@..., Neil Dorin <neildorin@...> wrote:

You guys are all haters.

I think it's pretty :)

Neil,
That sounds like something Chip would say... :)

Chris K

I agree. Before this Toolbox would just sit there not moving, and we just had to hope it was working. Now at least there is action to reassure us.

Chip and I are implementing backwards day...
On 2013-05-17, at 6:25 AM, "ChrisK" <chris@...> wrote:

--- In Crestron@..., Neil Dorin <neildorin@...> wrote:

You guys are all haters.

I think it's pretty :)

Neil,
That sounds like something Chip would say... :)

Chris K

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For me the initial load with the splash screen takes several seconds - but if I close it afterwards, it reopens in 1 second or so each time - I have it set to not open a default workspace or connect to anything on startup, maybe that's the difference.

Windows 7 64-bit SP1, Intel i5-2320 3GHz, 6GB RAM; I was also running AutoCAD, Firefox, Outlook, Acrobat and several background processes at the same time during this "test." Time to upgrade?

Time to upgrade?? You're in better shape than me!

Windows 7 32 bit SP1 Intel Core2 Duo 2.26Ghz 4GB Ram

Don鈥檛 upgrade yet... wait for Haswell based PCs first.

Tray

From: robbie_ray
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 1:01 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Re: Pretty Toolbox splash


Time to upgrade?? You're in better shape than me!

Windows 7 32 bit SP1 Intel Core2 Duo 2.26Ghz 4GB Ram

--- In mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com, Paul Cunningham <paul.cunningham@...> wrote:

For me the initial load with the splash screen takes several seconds - but if I close it afterwards, it reopens in 1 second or so each time - I have it set to not open a default workspace or connect to anything on startup, maybe that's the difference.

Windows 7 64-bit SP1, Intel i5-2320 3GHz, 6GB RAM; I was also running AutoCAD, Firefox, Outlook, Acrobat and several background processes at the same time during this "test." Time to upgrade?

-----Original Message-----
From: mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of weddellkw
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 3:45 PM
To: mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Crestron] Re: Pretty Toolbox splash

Ugh, no, it's terrible. I used to open and close Toolbox on a regular basis as I needed it, now I leave it open simply to avoid the Splash screen.

--- In mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com, Marc Nield <nieldm@> wrote:

Is it me or is that new, pretty Toolbox startup splash more annoying than useful? You start an upload or a compile and then think "oh I'll start Toolbox" then you can't see what's going on for as long as it takes Toolbox to start coz the damn splash hogs the screen and won't go away.

Like I said, maybe I am doing something wrong, but if I am not I can't believe I am alone in my grumpiness....

------------------------------------



Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the Database area.
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Guess Crestron is doing rather well if we spend time nit-picking a splash screen... :)

Tray

From: Paul Cunningham
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 12:35 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: RE: [Crestron] Re: Pretty Toolbox splash


For me the initial load with the splash screen takes several seconds - but if I close it afterwards, it reopens in 1 second or so each time - I have it set to not open a default workspace or connect to anything on startup, maybe that's the difference.

Windows 7 64-bit SP1, Intel i5-2320 3GHz, 6GB RAM; I was also running AutoCAD, Firefox, Outlook, Acrobat and several background processes at the same time during this "test." Time to upgrade?

-----Original Message-----
From: mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of weddellkw
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 3:45 PM
To: mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Crestron] Re: Pretty Toolbox splash

Ugh, no, it's terrible. I used to open and close Toolbox on a regular basis as I needed it, now I leave it open simply to avoid the Splash screen.

--- In mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com, Marc Nield <nieldm@...> wrote:

Is it me or is that new, pretty Toolbox startup splash more annoying than useful? You start an upload or a compile and then think "oh I'll start Toolbox" then you can't see what's going on for as long as it takes Toolbox to start coz the damn splash hogs the screen and won't go away.

Like I said, maybe I am doing something wrong, but if I am not I can't believe I am alone in my grumpiness....

------------------------------------



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Ha not me, I meant everyone complaining about the slow loading. My computer is no slouch but certainly wasn't expensive

They should allow toolbox to minimize to the task tray. This way it can stay open fir as long as I want without hogging active resources. Kind of like outlook

Michael J Coe

On May 17, 2013, at 1:20 PM, Paul Cunningham <paul.cunningham@...> wrote:

Ha not me, I meant everyone complaining about the slow loading. My computer is no slouch but certainly wasn't expensive

-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of robbie_ray
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 1:02 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Re: Pretty Toolbox splash

Time to upgrade?? You're in better shape than me!

Windows 7 32 bit SP1 Intel Core2 Duo 2.26Ghz 4GB Ram

--- In Crestron@..., Paul Cunningham <paul.cunningham@...> wrote:

For me the initial load with the splash screen takes several seconds - but if I close it afterwards, it reopens in 1 second or so each time - I have it set to not open a default workspace or connect to anything on startup, maybe that's the difference.

Windows 7 64-bit SP1, Intel i5-2320 3GHz, 6GB RAM; I was also running AutoCAD, Firefox, Outlook, Acrobat and several background processes at the same time during this "test." Time to upgrade?

-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of weddellkw
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 3:45 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Re: Pretty Toolbox splash

Ugh, no, it's terrible. I used to open and close Toolbox on a regular basis as I needed it, now I leave it open simply to avoid the Splash screen.

--- In Crestron@..., Marc Nield <nieldm@> wrote:

Is it me or is that new, pretty Toolbox startup splash more annoying than useful? You start an upload or a compile and then think "oh I'll start Toolbox" then you can't see what's going on for as long as it takes Toolbox to start coz the damn splash hogs the screen and won't go away.

Like I said, maybe I am doing something wrong, but if I am not I can't believe I am alone in my grumpiness....

------------------------------------



Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the Database area.
Yahoo! Groups Links

------------------------------------



Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the Database area.
Yahoo! Groups Links

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Slow isn't the problem... having it always on top is the problem. At least
with SIMPL Windows I can load it in the background while I'm surfing the
yahoo group. (or more commonly, start 3-5 instances right after reboot and
then be ready to go until one crashes...)


On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Tray Schaeffer
<trayschaeffer@...>wrote:

Guess Crestron is doing rather well if we spend time nit-picking a splash
screen... :)

Tray

From: Paul Cunningham
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 12:35 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: RE: [Crestron] Re: Pretty Toolbox splash


For me the initial load with the splash screen takes several seconds - but
if I close it afterwards, it reopens in 1 second or so each time - I have
it set to not open a default workspace or connect to anything on startup,
maybe that's the difference.

Windows 7 64-bit SP1, Intel i5-2320 3GHz, 6GB RAM; I was also running
AutoCAD, Firefox, Outlook, Acrobat and several background processes at the
same time during this "test." Time to upgrade?

-----Original Message-----
From: mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:Crestron%
40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of weddellkw
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 3:45 PM
To: mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Crestron] Re: Pretty Toolbox splash

Ugh, no, it's terrible. I used to open and close Toolbox on a regular
basis as I needed it, now I leave it open simply to avoid the Splash screen.

--- In mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com, Marc Nield <nieldm@...> wrote:

Is it me or is that new, pretty Toolbox startup splash more annoying

than useful? You start an upload or a compile and then think "oh I'll start
Toolbox" then you can't see what's going on for as long as it takes Toolbox
to start coz the damn splash hogs the screen and won't go away.

Like I said, maybe I am doing something wrong, but if I am not I can't

believe I am alone in my grumpiness....

------------------------------------




Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the
Database area.
Yahoo!
Groups Links









------------------------------------




Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the
Database area.
Yahoo!
Groups Links

--
Jeremy Weatherford

The splash screen sits behind whatever window I open over it.... I don't see the issue.
On 2013-05-17, at 12:37 PM, Jeremy Weatherford <jweather@...> wrote:

Slow isn't the problem... having it always on top is the problem. At least
with SIMPL Windows I can load it in the background while I'm surfing the
yahoo group. (or more commonly, start 3-5 instances right after reboot and
then be ready to go until one crashes...)

On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Tray Schaeffer
<trayschaeffer@...>wrote:

Guess Crestron is doing rather well if we spend time nit-picking a splash
screen... :)

Tray

From: Paul Cunningham
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 12:35 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: RE: [Crestron] Re: Pretty Toolbox splash


For me the initial load with the splash screen takes several seconds - but
if I close it afterwards, it reopens in 1 second or so each time - I have
it set to not open a default workspace or connect to anything on startup,
maybe that's the difference.

Windows 7 64-bit SP1, Intel i5-2320 3GHz, 6GB RAM; I was also running
AutoCAD, Firefox, Outlook, Acrobat and several background processes at the
same time during this "test." Time to upgrade?

-----Original Message-----
From: mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com [mailto:mailto:Crestron%
40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of weddellkw
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 3:45 PM
To: mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Crestron] Re: Pretty Toolbox splash

Ugh, no, it's terrible. I used to open and close Toolbox on a regular
basis as I needed it, now I leave it open simply to avoid the Splash screen.

--- In mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com, Marc Nield <nieldm@...> wrote:

Is it me or is that new, pretty Toolbox startup splash more annoying

than useful? You start an upload or a compile and then think "oh I'll start
Toolbox" then you can't see what's going on for as long as it takes Toolbox
to start coz the damn splash hogs the screen and won't go away.

Like I said, maybe I am doing something wrong, but if I am not I can't

believe I am alone in my grumpiness....

------------------------------------




Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the
Database area.
Yahoo!
Groups Links





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------------------------------------




Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the
Database area.
Yahoo!
Groups Links

--
Jeremy Weatherford

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No, I guess you wouldn't if it's "behind whatever window"... :P

JRW