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My system at home: I replaced a C2N-CBD with a CNX-BF12. Existing wire, didn't even change the Phoenix connectors. Now all of a sudden the ML-500/600s on the CNRFGWA-418 stop chatting.

Disconnect CNX-BF12 Cresnet at the CNT-BLOCK end of the cable... no change. Even with an ML-500 at 6", 18", and 3'.

Take antenna off CNRFGWA-418 and the ML-500 works within about 3' of the gateway. Put antenna back on, goes back to not working.

An interesting observation is that the "SIGNAL" LED on the 433 CNRFGWA right next to the -418 is clearly illuminated with I hit any button; the "SIGNAL" LED on the -418 only flashes when I take the antenna off or physically touch the ML-500 to the -418's antenna (in that case, though, even though the signal usually LED comes on nothing seems to happen)

Making me scratch my head even more: Using Superdebugger is showing me "something" being received by the gateway, but that's not triggering the logic associated with the press in the program

E.g. press and release "Prev Ch" on the remote that should be RFID 20
<01/21/2010 14:17:03>CRX:Slot-01.ID-73 :1 Way TX ID:6F Join:33 Value:1
<01/21/2010 14:17:03>CRX:Slot-01.ID-73 :1 Way TX ID:00 Join:0 Value:0

Press and release softkey 10 for group 1
<01/21/2010 14:19:01>CRX:Slot-01.ID-73 :1 Way TX ID:49 Join:34 Value:1
<01/21/2010 14:19:01>CRX:Slot-01.ID-73 :1 Way TX ID:00 Join:0 Value:0

Any ideas?

Lincoln


--

Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Applications Engineer
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC

V: 440.449.1100 x1107 F: 440.449.1106 I:
Crestron Authorized Independent Programmer

Yup. Your gateway is screwed. I used to see this reasonably frequently a
few years back - you'll need to send the GW back for repair/replacement.

Simon C

2010/1/21 Lincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@...>

My system at home: I replaced a C2N-CBD with a CNX-BF12. Existing wire,
didn't even change the Phoenix connectors. Now all of a sudden the
ML-500/600s on the CNRFGWA-418 stop chatting.

Disconnect CNX-BF12 Cresnet at the CNT-BLOCK end of the cable... no change.
Even with an ML-500 at 6", 18", and 3'.

Take antenna off CNRFGWA-418 and the ML-500 works within about 3' of the
gateway. Put antenna back on, goes back to not working.

An interesting observation is that the "SIGNAL" LED on the 433 CNRFGWA
right next to the -418 is clearly illuminated with I hit any button; the
"SIGNAL" LED on the -418 only flashes when I take the antenna off or
physically touch the ML-500 to the -418's antenna (in that case, though,
even though the signal usually LED comes on nothing seems to happen)

Making me scratch my head even more: Using Superdebugger is showing me
"something" being received by the gateway, but that's not triggering the
logic associated with the press in the program

E.g. press and release "Prev Ch" on the remote that should be RFID 20
<01/21/2010 14:17:03>CRX:Slot-01.ID-73 :1 Way TX ID:6F Join:33 Value:1
<01/21/2010 14:17:03>CRX:Slot-01.ID-73 :1 Way TX ID:00 Join:0 Value:0

Press and release softkey 10 for group 1
<01/21/2010 14:19:01>CRX:Slot-01.ID-73 :1 Way TX ID:49 Join:34 Value:1
<01/21/2010 14:19:01>CRX:Slot-01.ID-73 :1 Way TX ID:00 Join:0 Value:0

Any ideas?

Lincoln

--

Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Applications Engineer
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC

V: 440.449.1100 x1107 F: 440.449.1106 I:
Crestron Authorized Independent Programmer

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Apologies for bumping an old thread, hopefully my experience can help someone else.

i had a similar problem with an RTI, CNRFGWA and Pro2. Worked fine for a long time, then 2 days ago, all 3 CNRFGWA lights on, all the time. Swapped another CNRFGWA, same problem, all lights on.

Checked code, cabling...

Nothing I tried fixed the problem.

I remembered I also had FOB troubles with my car alarm that afternoon, which suggested interference of some sort.

Unfortunately, returning home the next day, the car alarm FOB worked fine, and the CNRFGWA activity LED was off.

The system worked exactly as it had before the problem arose.

I figure one of the neighbours has a ham radio or something like that, and its just flooding the 433mhz band and the CNRFGWA is picking up on it and freaking out.

Ill update this if it happens again, and I can figure out the source of interference.

(as a note, i live in a big house on a big section in the burbs, its not an inner city apartment)

Dan.

Just to add to anecdotal evidence...

I've also had problems with the CNRFGWA with RTI and, like Dan, the issue was foreign device interference. It took a while to track down, but it turned out that a Rako RAV232+ interface I added to the system was constantly transmitting. Remove the interface, and everything was fine again.

Major credit to Rako on openness and customer service - I asked them about the issue, and they 'fessed up straight away that it was a known issue on an old batch of RAV232+'s and they replaced the unit within a couple of days. Everything plays nicely now.

I'm sure we'd all get a lot more done with far less stress if companies were more open with "known issues" ;)

Ol

Hello All



This could be a common problem, the CNRFGWA operates on 433.92 Mhz.

This frequency is right in the middle of the of the 440 ham radio band that

covers from 420.0 Mhz. to 450.0 Mhz. I live a ? mile from our main Weather

Repeater, I had to change one of our remote receive link frequencies that

was on 434.0 Mhz. because it was interfering with my CNRFGWA.

The 420 to 450 Mhz. band is also shared with some First Responder agencies
like

Police, fire, ambulance. Mostly in rural areas.

I was really surprised that Crestron had used the 433.92 Mhz. frequency.

I guess that is why they came out with the CNRFGWA-418 that operates at 418
Mhz.

so it would have less interference.



Lee



From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf
Of silviacity
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 11:56 AM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Re: I'm Loosing It...





Apologies for bumping an old thread, hopefully my experience can help
someone else.

i had a similar problem with an RTI, CNRFGWA and Pro2. Worked fine for a
long time, then 2 days ago, all 3 CNRFGWA lights on, all the time. Swapped
another CNRFGWA, same problem, all lights on.

Checked code, cabling...

Nothing I tried fixed the problem.

I remembered I also had FOB troubles with my car alarm that afternoon, which
suggested interference of some sort.

Unfortunately, returning home the next day, the car alarm FOB worked fine,
and the CNRFGWA activity LED was off.

The system worked exactly as it had before the problem arose.

I figure one of the neighbours has a ham radio or something like that, and
its just flooding the 433mhz band and the CNRFGWA is picking up on it and
freaking out.

Ill update this if it happens again, and I can figure out the source of
interference.

(as a note, i live in a big house on a big section in the burbs, its not an
inner city apartment)

Dan.

--- In Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> , Simon
Cope <sjcope@...> wrote:

Yup. Your gateway is screwed. I used to see this reasonably frequently a
few years back - you'll need to send the GW back for repair/replacement.

Simon C

2010/1/21 Lincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@...>

My system at home: I replaced a C2N-CBD with a CNX-BF12. Existing wire,
didn't even change the Phoenix connectors. Now all of a sudden the
ML-500/600s on the CNRFGWA-418 stop chatting.

Disconnect CNX-BF12 Cresnet at the CNT-BLOCK end of the cable... no

change.

Even with an ML-500 at 6", 18", and 3'.

Take antenna off CNRFGWA-418 and the ML-500 works within about 3' of the
gateway. Put antenna back on, goes back to not working.

An interesting observation is that the "SIGNAL" LED on the 433 CNRFGWA
right next to the -418 is clearly illuminated with I hit any button; the
"SIGNAL" LED on the -418 only flashes when I take the antenna off or
physically touch the ML-500 to the -418's antenna (in that case, though,
even though the signal usually LED comes on nothing seems to happen)

Making me scratch my head even more: Using Superdebugger is showing me
"something" being received by the gateway, but that's not triggering the
logic associated with the press in the program

E.g. press and release "Prev Ch" on the remote that should be RFID 20
<01/21/2010 14:17:03>CRX:Slot-01.ID-73 :1 Way TX ID:6F Join:33 Value:1
<01/21/2010 14:17:03>CRX:Slot-01.ID-73 :1 Way TX ID:00 Join:0 Value:0

Press and release softkey 10 for group 1
<01/21/2010 14:19:01>CRX:Slot-01.ID-73 :1 Way TX ID:49 Join:34 Value:1
<01/21/2010 14:19:01>CRX:Slot-01.ID-73 :1 Way TX ID:00 Join:0 Value:0

Any ideas?

Lincoln

--

Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Applications Engineer
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC

V: 440.449.1100 x1107 F: 440.449.1106 I:
Crestron Authorized Independent Programmer

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433 is the only authorized frequency in many countries
--
Marc-Etienne HUNEAU

? 06.615.516.90


Le 3 avr. 2012 à 04:35, <ke4vsk@...> a écrit :

Hello All

This could be a common problem, the CNRFGWA operates on 433.92 Mhz.

This frequency is right in the middle of the of the 440 ham radio band that

covers from 420.0 Mhz. to 450.0 Mhz. I live a ? mile from our main Weather

Repeater, I had to change one of our remote receive link frequencies that

was on 434.0 Mhz. because it was interfering with my CNRFGWA.

The 420 to 450 Mhz. band is also shared with some First Responder agencies
like

Police, fire, ambulance. Mostly in rural areas.

I was really surprised that Crestron had used the 433.92 Mhz. frequency.

I guess that is why they came out with the CNRFGWA-418 that operates at 418
Mhz.

so it would have less interference.

Lee

From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf
Of silviacity
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 11:56 AM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Re: I'm Loosing It...

Apologies for bumping an old thread, hopefully my experience can help
someone else.

i had a similar problem with an RTI, CNRFGWA and Pro2. Worked fine for a
long time, then 2 days ago, all 3 CNRFGWA lights on, all the time. Swapped
another CNRFGWA, same problem, all lights on.

Checked code, cabling...

Nothing I tried fixed the problem.

I remembered I also had FOB troubles with my car alarm that afternoon, which
suggested interference of some sort.

Unfortunately, returning home the next day, the car alarm FOB worked fine,
and the CNRFGWA activity LED was off.

The system worked exactly as it had before the problem arose.

I figure one of the neighbours has a ham radio or something like that, and
its just flooding the 433mhz band and the CNRFGWA is picking up on it and
freaking out.

Ill update this if it happens again, and I can figure out the source of
interference.

(as a note, i live in a big house on a big section in the burbs, its not an
inner city apartment)

Dan.

--- In Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> , Simon
Cope <sjcope@...> wrote:

Yup. Your gateway is screwed. I used to see this reasonably frequently a
few years back - you'll need to send the GW back for repair/replacement.

Simon C

2010/1/21 Lincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@...>

My system at home: I replaced a C2N-CBD with a CNX-BF12. Existing wire,
didn't even change the Phoenix connectors. Now all of a sudden the
ML-500/600s on the CNRFGWA-418 stop chatting.

Disconnect CNX-BF12 Cresnet at the CNT-BLOCK end of the cable... no

change.

Even with an ML-500 at 6", 18", and 3'.

Take antenna off CNRFGWA-418 and the ML-500 works within about 3' of the
gateway. Put antenna back on, goes back to not working.

An interesting observation is that the "SIGNAL" LED on the 433 CNRFGWA
right next to the -418 is clearly illuminated with I hit any button; the
"SIGNAL" LED on the -418 only flashes when I take the antenna off or
physically touch the ML-500 to the -418's antenna (in that case, though,
even though the signal usually LED comes on nothing seems to happen)

Making me scratch my head even more: Using Superdebugger is showing me
"something" being received by the gateway, but that's not triggering the
logic associated with the press in the program

E.g. press and release "Prev Ch" on the remote that should be RFID 20
<01/21/2010 14:17:03>CRX:Slot-01.ID-73 :1 Way TX ID:6F Join:33 Value:1
<01/21/2010 14:17:03>CRX:Slot-01.ID-73 :1 Way TX ID:00 Join:0 Value:0

Press and release softkey 10 for group 1
<01/21/2010 14:19:01>CRX:Slot-01.ID-73 :1 Way TX ID:49 Join:34 Value:1
<01/21/2010 14:19:01>CRX:Slot-01.ID-73 :1 Way TX ID:00 Join:0 Value:0

Any ideas?

Lincoln

--

Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Applications Engineer
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC

V: 440.449.1100 x1107 F: 440.449.1106 I:
Crestron Authorized Independent Programmer

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That is true.

Sorry I sometimes forget that companies like Crestron are Worldwide.



Lee



From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of Marc-Etienne Huneau
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 1:58 AM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: Re: [Crestron] Re: I'm Loosing It...





433 is the only authorized frequency in many countries
--
Marc-Etienne HUNEAU

? 06.615.516.90

Le 3 avr. 2012 à 04:35, <ke4vsk@... <mailto:ke4vsk%40sbcglobal.net> > a écrit :

Hello All

This could be a common problem, the CNRFGWA operates on 433.92 Mhz.

This frequency is right in the middle of the of the 440 ham radio band that

covers from 420.0 Mhz. to 450.0 Mhz. I live a ? mile from our main Weather

Repeater, I had to change one of our remote receive link frequencies that

was on 434.0 Mhz. because it was interfering with my CNRFGWA.

The 420 to 450 Mhz. band is also shared with some First Responder agencies
like

Police, fire, ambulance. Mostly in rural areas.

I was really surprised that Crestron had used the 433.92 Mhz. frequency.

I guess that is why they came out with the CNRFGWA-418 that operates at 418
Mhz.

so it would have less interference.

Lee

From: Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf
Of silviacity
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 11:56 AM
To: Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Crestron] Re: I'm Loosing It...

Apologies for bumping an old thread, hopefully my experience can help
someone else.

i had a similar problem with an RTI, CNRFGWA and Pro2. Worked fine for a
long time, then 2 days ago, all 3 CNRFGWA lights on, all the time. Swapped
another CNRFGWA, same problem, all lights on.

Checked code, cabling...

Nothing I tried fixed the problem.

I remembered I also had FOB troubles with my car alarm that afternoon, which
suggested interference of some sort.

Unfortunately, returning home the next day, the car alarm FOB worked fine,
and the CNRFGWA activity LED was off.

The system worked exactly as it had before the problem arose.

I figure one of the neighbours has a ham radio or something like that, and
its just flooding the 433mhz band and the CNRFGWA is picking up on it and
freaking out.

Ill update this if it happens again, and I can figure out the source of
interference.

(as a note, i live in a big house on a big section in the burbs, its not an
inner city apartment)

Dan.

--- In Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> , Simon
Cope <sjcope@...> wrote:

Yup. Your gateway is screwed. I used to see this reasonably frequently a
few years back - you'll need to send the GW back for repair/replacement.

Simon C

2010/1/21 Lincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@...>

My system at home: I replaced a C2N-CBD with a CNX-BF12. Existing wire,
didn't even change the Phoenix connectors. Now all of a sudden the
ML-500/600s on the CNRFGWA-418 stop chatting.

Disconnect CNX-BF12 Cresnet at the CNT-BLOCK end of the cable... no

change.

Even with an ML-500 at 6", 18", and 3'.

Take antenna off CNRFGWA-418 and the ML-500 works within about 3' of the
gateway. Put antenna back on, goes back to not working.

An interesting observation is that the "SIGNAL" LED on the 433 CNRFGWA
right next to the -418 is clearly illuminated with I hit any button; the
"SIGNAL" LED on the -418 only flashes when I take the antenna off or
physically touch the ML-500 to the -418's antenna (in that case, though,
even though the signal usually LED comes on nothing seems to happen)

Making me scratch my head even more: Using Superdebugger is showing me
"something" being received by the gateway, but that's not triggering the
logic associated with the press in the program

E.g. press and release "Prev Ch" on the remote that should be RFID 20
<01/21/2010 14:17:03>CRX:Slot-01.ID-73 :1 Way TX ID:6F Join:33 Value:1
<01/21/2010 14:17:03>CRX:Slot-01.ID-73 :1 Way TX ID:00 Join:0 Value:0

Press and release softkey 10 for group 1
<01/21/2010 14:19:01>CRX:Slot-01.ID-73 :1 Way TX ID:49 Join:34 Value:1
<01/21/2010 14:19:01>CRX:Slot-01.ID-73 :1 Way TX ID:00 Join:0 Value:0

Any ideas?

Lincoln

--

Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Applications Engineer
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC

V: 440.449.1100 x1107 F: 440.449.1106 I:
Crestron Authorized Independent Programmer

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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