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开云体育Hi, ? i?ve got a (resi) client who would like to make a standard EU 230V power wall plug switchable via Crestron, wireless. ? What is the preferred solution for that? ? I think the best way would be to have the wall plug switchable via relais in the power distribution, but what do you do If that?s not possible? ? Cheers, Thorsten |
开云体育Just a few weeks back I wrote a detailed article about Shelly IoT
relays.? One of them could probably handle this very easily and
the relays are small enough to go in the box with the outlet
itself.? And, I've already written the Crestron-Shelly driver
modules for you. Hope this helps Jay On 2/7/2021 12:46 PM, Thorsten K?hler
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开云体育Hi Jay, ? thanks a lot for your response. To be honest, I saw your article about the Sellys, but skipped it because I thought they where focusing on the US market. But I figured they are actually EU, so I definitely give it a try. Another option I found is this one: Different concept as it is a plug to be inserted into an existing wall-plug. Can also be controlled locally (which is a must). ? Thanks again and i?ll report back! ? Cheers, Thorsten ? Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> Im Auftrag von jbasen ? Just a few weeks back I wrote a detailed article about Shelly IoT relays.? One of them could probably handle this very easily and the relays are small enough to go in the box with the outlet itself.? And, I've already written the Crestron-Shelly driver modules for you. Hope this helps Jay On 2/7/2021 12:46 PM, Thorsten K?hler wrote:
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开云体育Hi Thorsten, Shelly has actually come out of Europe.? The parent company,
Allterco Robotics, is headquartered in Sofia, Bulgaria.? Shelly
products are sold in 120 countries world wide and have only
recently entered the U.S market. They should be easy to source
where you are located. I've been playing with them quite a bit for the articles I've done and have been very impressed with the ease of use, quality, and the thought that has gone into the design of their products. Jay On 2/8/2021 2:00 PM, Thorsten K?hler
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开云体育Hi Jay, ? i did some testing yesterday (incl. your Crestron modules) and i?m pretty impressed. I?d prefer to have them in client mode rather than in AP mode by default since it adds an extra step to the configuration, but overall it seems to be a very nice little device. However, i?m still a bit skeptical about using wifi because it?s more prone to interference compared to other “traditional” wireless home automation standards. So what?s your experience on that? ? Next week, i?ll integrate one Shelly at my friend?s house for testing to get some real world experience myself. ? Cheers, Thorsten ? Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> Im Auftrag von jbasen ? Just a few weeks back I wrote a detailed article about Shelly IoT relays.? One of them could probably handle this very easily and the relays are small enough to go in the box with the outlet itself.? And, I've already written the Crestron-Shelly driver modules for you. Hope this helps Jay On 2/7/2021 12:46 PM, Thorsten K?hler wrote:
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开云体育Oh, and bonus question: What?s the preferred solution for wireless push-buttons? ? Cheers, Thorsten ? Von: Thorsten K?hler <thorsten.koehler@...> ? Hi Jay, ? i did some testing yesterday (incl. your Crestron modules) and i?m pretty impressed. I?d prefer to have them in client mode rather than in AP mode by default since it adds an extra step to the configuration, but overall it seems to be a very nice little device. However, i?m still a bit skeptical about using wifi because it?s more prone to interference compared to other “traditional” wireless home automation standards. So what?s your experience on that? ? Next week, i?ll integrate one Shelly at my friend?s house for testing to get some real world experience myself. ? Cheers, Thorsten ? Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> Im Auftrag von jbasen ? Just a few weeks back I wrote a detailed article about Shelly IoT relays.? One of them could probably handle this very easily and the relays are small enough to go in the box with the outlet itself.? And, I've already written the Crestron-Shelly driver modules for you. Hope this helps Jay On 2/7/2021 12:46 PM, Thorsten K?hler wrote:
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If you are skeptical about wifi and interference, the only other solution will be Zwave with a hub. Look into Hubitat. I know it's frequency varies by region so you have to see what is available for yours.
I use it at home and once setup properly it works well. But it does require some setup and planning so there is a learnig curve and if you need support - you are mostly on your own/online communities. Edit: if you are dealing with large home, Zwave is probably not the right solution due to its distance limitations and limites mesh hops. |
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Hi Thorsten, My own experience is that WiFi works fine until you get into very dense housing situations. Then you can run into some interference issues. ? Writing articles and testing products I’m amazed at how the number of IoT products in my home has grown. Over a dozen Alexa devices, Shelly products, laptops, smartphones/tablets, and the list goes on.? In my own home I don’t notice any issues.? I am using a firewalla to better monitor what is going on with everything.? Most of the keypads I personally use a Crestron CLX-EX light switches.? I outfit most with 4 buttons and utilize those buttons for lots of different functions around the house besides controlling lighting. The integration of Alexa voice commands has also minimized ten news for dedicated keypads.? That being said, if you want to stay in the Shelly world you can use a Shelly i3 and add your own switches to it.? If you want a broader array of options then, as zac.sparrow suggested, add a Hubitat Hub and that will give you lots of options to choose from.? I’m using some from Aeotec and they work very well. I hope this helps Jay On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 4:58 AM Thorsten K?hler <thorsten.koehler@...> wrote:
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开云体育I’m not sure I buy (at least in the US/FCC realm) that wifi is more prone to interference than other standards -- plenty of technologies in the commercial world rely on wifi -- and InfinetEX and 2.4G wifi have a nearly 100% frequency overlap. ? Spectrum management and surveillance, of course, an important step, but if something is stomping on wifi the chances of other things making it out unscathed are not much better. ? If you’re just throwing random 2.4G devices in the same physical space with no coordination, of course, you’re practically begging for problems – which is sadly the state of many consumer IoT ideas. Or implementing single band WiFi as well – the irritation of the fact that my refrigerator only does 2.4 is only offset by the fact that the pet feeder also only does 2.4. ? Now, of course, TCP, etc. over WiFi have much higher overheads than something like InfinetEX – the double-edged sword of greater error checking and recovery and high traffic for something simple like a button press. ? But I still strongly prefer wired when wired is possible so… J ? ? (And for anyone who’s even slightly curious… despite having a 30 gigabit trunk between my wireless LAN controller and the core switch [mainly “because I can, darn it”] peak wireless traffic this week was a <5 minute burst of about 18mb with a wifi traffic noise floor is ~200-300k symmetrical… this is with IoT stuff, a bunch of TPMC-8X-Gas , a few laptops, phone/iPad, etc.]) ? -- Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS, DMC-E-4K/T/D ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Thorsten K?hler
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2021 4:46 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [crestron] Crestron wireless for residential ? Hi Jay, ? i did some testing yesterday (incl. your Crestron modules) and i?m pretty impressed. I?d prefer to have them in client mode rather than in AP mode by default since it adds an extra step to the configuration, but overall it seems to be a very nice little device. However, i?m still a bit skeptical about using wifi because it?s more prone to interference compared to other “traditional” wireless home automation standards. So what?s your experience on that? ? Next week, i?ll integrate one Shelly at my friend?s house for testing to get some real world experience myself. ? Cheers, Thorsten ? Von:
[email protected] <[email protected]>
Im Auftrag von jbasen ? Just a few weeks back I wrote a detailed article about Shelly IoT relays.? One of them could probably handle this very easily and the relays are small enough to go in the box with the outlet itself.? And, I've already written the Crestron-Shelly driver modules for you.
Hope this helps Jay On 2/7/2021 12:46 PM, Thorsten K?hler wrote:
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