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Crestron Home control of Yamaha Receivers via IP

 

I am installing a CH system in an existing residence.? It has two Yamaha Receivers (RX-V671 and RX-A1010).?

For the RX-A1010, I tried the RX-A1070 MultiZone and, although it shows connected, I have no control of the unit.
For the RX-V671, I tried the RX-V685 and, although it shows connected, I have no control of the unit.

Can someone give me a little guidance on what I am doing wrong.? Are there settings inside of the unit that I need to make to get it to talk or is there a different driver that I should use?? Please help.

Thank you so much in advance.
 

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Have you connected all your audio routes? The amp will do very little without these

Tim Greenbank

Control Systems Engineer


On 20 Feb 2022, at 08:17, F David A Coker <david.coker@...> wrote:

?I am installing a CH system in an existing residence.? It has two Yamaha Receivers (RX-V671 and RX-A1010).?

For the RX-A1010, I tried the RX-A1070 MultiZone and, although it shows connected, I have no control of the unit.
For the RX-V671, I tried the RX-V685 and, although it shows connected, I have no control of the unit.

Can someone give me a little guidance on what I am doing wrong.? Are there settings inside of the unit that I need to make to get it to talk or is there a different driver that I should use?? Please help.

Thank you so much in advance.

 

When you say audio routes, all of the devices are connected to the receiver via HDMI only.? Do I need to connect more than the AV inputs?

One more note, it wont even turn the unit on or off and it doesn't allow me to control volume either.
 

How are you attempting to communicate? IP or Serial?


Any questions, please let me know.

Thanks

Mark Rubin
Custom A/V?Systems Programmer
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Abt | 1200 N. Milwaukee Ave | Glenview, IL 60025
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On Sat, Feb 19, 2022 at 1:59 PM F David A Coker <david.coker@...> wrote:
When you say audio routes, all of the devices are connected to the receiver via HDMI only.? Do I need to connect more than the AV inputs?

One more note, it wont even turn the unit on or off and it doesn't allow me to control volume either.

 

I am currently attempting to use IP to control them.
 

Can you confirm the IP control is enabled on those receivers? Are they statically addressed for their IP address?


Any questions, please let me know.

Thanks

Mark Rubin
Custom A/V?Systems Programmer
847-544-2925 | Mark.Rubin@...
Abt | 1200 N. Milwaukee Ave | Glenview, IL 60025
Days Off: Sunday & Monday
Did you know? We also carry:?
Heating & Cooling
Mattresses & Furniture
Arcade & Table Games


On Sat, Feb 19, 2022 at 2:02 PM F David A Coker <david.coker@...> wrote:
I am currently attempting to use IP to control them.

 

Before I make that statement, can you elaborate on what that entails?? I think I have them set up but I may have missed something.? Currently, they do not have static IP's, I can change that fairly easily by giving them reserved IP's.
 

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Yes under ¡°build system¡± in the CH setup app you¡¯ll need to define the source inputs and outputs. Without a complete signal path CH won¡¯t know what to do and won¡¯t do any switching?

Tim Greenbank

Control Systems Engineer


On 20 Feb 2022, at 08:59, F David A Coker <david.coker@...> wrote:

?When you say audio routes, all of the devices are connected to the receiver via HDMI only.? Do I need to connect more than the AV inputs?

One more note, it wont even turn the unit on or off and it doesn't allow me to control volume either.

 

In most receivers/avr's, I have noticed you can either enable or disable control over IP within their settings. DHCP reservation or Static IP address would be ideal to maintain successful IP control.


Any questions, please let me know.

Thanks

Mark Rubin
Custom A/V?Systems Programmer
847-544-2925 | Mark.Rubin@...
Abt | 1200 N. Milwaukee Ave | Glenview, IL 60025
Days Off: Sunday & Monday
Did you know? We also carry:?
Heating & Cooling
Mattresses & Furniture
Arcade & Table Games


On Sat, Feb 19, 2022 at 2:07 PM F David A Coker <david.coker@...> wrote:
Before I make that statement, can you elaborate on what that entails?? I think I have them set up but I may have missed something.? Currently, they do not have static IP's, I can change that fairly easily by giving them reserved IP's.

 

I agree with Tim, you will need to ensure you have a proper route for CH to actually control it as well.

In the driver, execute test commands to see if communication to the receiver is successful or not before attempting to use the system.


Any questions, please let me know.

Thanks

Mark Rubin
Custom A/V?Systems Programmer
847-544-2925 | Mark.Rubin@...
Abt | 1200 N. Milwaukee Ave | Glenview, IL 60025
Days Off: Sunday & Monday
Did you know? We also carry:?
Heating & Cooling
Mattresses & Furniture
Arcade & Table Games


On Sat, Feb 19, 2022 at 2:08 PM Tim Greenbank <tim.greenbank@...> wrote:
Yes under ¡°build system¡± in the CH setup app you¡¯ll need to define the source inputs and outputs. Without a complete signal path CH won¡¯t know what to do and won¡¯t do any switching?

Tim Greenbank

Control Systems Engineer


On 20 Feb 2022, at 08:59, F David A Coker <david.coker@...> wrote:

?When you say audio routes, all of the devices are connected to the receiver via HDMI only.? Do I need to connect more than the AV inputs?

One more note, it wont even turn the unit on or off and it doesn't allow me to control volume either.

 

Do you, by chance, have any details for the Yamaha's?? Specifically the RX-A1010 and the RX-V671.
 

Ok, then yes, I have each of the 4 input devices connected to AV2 through AV5.? Then I have the output connected to HDMI1 on the display.? Is there anything else I need to route?
 

oh and I have the Room Audio 1 output tied to the main speakers on the Yamaha
 

I was never able to get Yamaha AVRs to work with CH either. This is on systems that previously were working flawlessly for years via IP on full fat Crestron. Serial and IR work, but no go on IP. ?IIRC, the latest Yamaha models use a different protocol, so that may be what the modules are based on. ?I don¡¯t think you are going to have any luck with these older models.?
 

Hey Steve, thank you so much for ending my misery LOL.? I have tried everything under the sun and nothing would even start to work.? And, with CH, I have no way to watch signals to see if there is any two way comms even happening.? Not sure I like this box.? Anyway, thank you again, I will focus on building an IR interface and moving on with the project.

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