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Anyone have a CAGE2 for the AV2?
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I can sympathize but I don't have one. You must really dislike the
Extron corporation if you think Crestron's bad! How DO they SLEEP at NIGHT. J --- In Crestron@..., Rodney Young <rodney_james_young@...> wrote: can't believe how much Crestron charges for a simple interconnect.
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Actually, I have one already that came with the unit. Yes, those are expensive too; however, at least the Ethernet card has some meat and potatoes behind it. With the CAGE2, it's just a damn interconnect. I can't validate how Crestron would charge so much for so little.
To: Crestron@...: cfm@...: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 16:40:36 +0000Subject: [Crestron] Re: Anyone have a CAGE2 for the AV2? Heh... You haven't bought an Ethernet card for that AV2 yet, haveyou? :)- Chip--- In Crestron@..., Rodney Young <rodney_james_young@...>wrote:>> > Does anyone out there have a CAGE2 available for a decent price? Ican't believe how much Crestron charges for a simple interconnect.> _________________________________________________________________ Watch 揅ause Effect,� a show about real people making a real difference. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Simple. They're the only ones who make it. Therefore, charge what
you want. Plenty of other companies who do very specialized stuff do exactly the same. --- In Crestron@..., Rodney Young <rodney_james_young@...> wrote: are expensive too; however, at least the Ethernet card has some meat and potatoes behind it. With the CAGE2, it's just a damn interconnect. I can't validate how Crestron would charge so much for so little. [Crestron] Re: Anyone have a CAGE2 for the AV2? haveyou? :)- Chip--- In Crestron@..., Rodney Young <rodney_james_young@>wrote:>> > Does anyone out there have a CAGE2 available for a decent price? Ican't believe how much Crestron charges for a simple interconnect.>
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lunarteq
A small group of us here did some math on this several months back and
basically what we found was that retail on an AV2 with card cage was pretty close to retail of a PRO2. Since the PRO2 is Crestron's flagship they promote that unit over all the others (excepting Adagio), so the theory is they priced it that way to encourage purchasing the PRO2 over the AV2 with a cage. Its a marketing strategy, basically the same reason as the hot dog and bun thing. ChipG --- In Crestron@..., "fooguy89" <fooguy89@...> wrote: difference.
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I was able to get an AV2, an RF gateway, and an Ethernet card for $500 total. From that deal, I decided I am going ot learn how to program this stuff. Unfortunately, I still face the gotchas like this CAGE2 part...which limits my learning since it's so hard for me to obtain components.
To: Crestron@...: lunartech@...: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 21:20:30 +0000Subject: [Crestron] Re: Anyone have a CAGE2 for the AV2? A small group of us here did some math on this several months back andbasically what we found was that retail on an AV2 with card cage waspretty close to retail of a PRO2.Since the PRO2 is Crestron's flagship they promote that unit over allthe others (excepting Adagio), so the theory is they priced it thatway to encourage purchasing the PRO2 over the AV2 with a cage.Its a marketing strategy, basically the same reason as the hot dog andbun thing.ChipG--- In Crestron@..., "fooguy89" <fooguy89@...> wrote:>> Simple. They're the only ones who make it. Therefore, charge what> you want. Plenty of other companies who do very specialized stuff do> exactly the same.> > > --- In Crestron@..., Rodney Young <rodney_james_young@>> wrote:> >> > > > Actually, I have one already that came with the unit. Yes, those> are expensive too; however, at least the Ethernet card has some meat> and potatoes behind it. With the CAGE2, it's just a damn> interconnect. I can't validate how Crestron would charge so much for> so little.> > > > > > > > > > To: Crestron@: cfm@: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 16:40:36 +0000Subject:> [Crestron] Re: Anyone have a CAGE2 for the AV2?> > > > > > > > > > Heh... You haven't bought an Ethernet card for that AV2 yet,> haveyou? :)- Chip--- In Crestron@..., Rodney Young> <rodney_james_young@>wrote:>> > Does anyone out there have a CAGE2> available for a decent price? Ican't believe how much Crestron charges> for a simple interconnect.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________> > Watch "Cause Effect," a show about real people making a realdifference.> > > > > > > >> _________________________________________________________________ Get the power of Windows + Web with the new Windows Live. |
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Don't forget that depending on you're fully-loaded labor rate, it could
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wind up being cheaper to buy the Pro2 than buy the AV2, Cage2, and then pay someone to remove all of the screws and install the Cage2 in the AV2 then reinstall all of the screws. Not to mention that the Pro2 gives you loads of extras. Under the catch-all phrase "Front Panel". It's an advertising tool. It's a support tool. It's a status tool. It's a debugging tool. Back to the original poster, if there's not a cage2 in the processor and the only reason you'd be installing a cage is for this one card, you're probably better off using the network device version. If you're determined to just use volume/tone control, the ST-VC is functionally identical to the CNX-VTC3 but it sits on the Cresnet network rather than in a card slot. I'd still suggest going the VEQ4 route [though, full disclosure, my system at home has 2 ST-VCs because I picked them up uber cheap], in which case the network device is the C2N-VEQ4 (functionally identical to the C2-VEQ4 card). -- Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS Applications Engineer ControlWorks Consulting, LLC V: 440-729-4640 F: 440-729-0884 I: Crestron Authorized Independent Programmer -----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of lunarteq Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 4:21 PM To: Crestron@... Subject: [Crestron] Re: Anyone have a CAGE2 for the AV2? A small group of us here did some math on this several months back and basically what we found was that retail on an AV2 with card cage was pretty close to retail of a PRO2. Since the PRO2 is Crestron's flagship they promote that unit over all the others (excepting Adagio), so the theory is they priced it that way to encourage purchasing the PRO2 over the AV2 with a cage. Its a marketing strategy, basically the same reason as the hot dog and bun thing. ChipG --- In Crestron@..., "fooguy89" <fooguy89@...> wrote: difference.
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I got that CNX card off ebay for $46 total. From this, I thought I would be able to obtain a CAGE2 for a decent price.
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If it turns out I can't find a CAGE2 for a fair price, I will move onto something else as you mention below... To: Crestron@...: lincoln@...: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 13:30:42 -0800Subject: RE: [Crestron] Re: Anyone have a CAGE2 for the AV2? Don't forget that depending on you're fully-loaded labor rate, it couldwind up being cheaper to buy the Pro2 than buy the AV2, Cage2, and thenpay someone to remove all of the screws and install the Cage2 in the AV2then reinstall all of the screws.Not to mention that the Pro2 gives you loads of extras. Under thecatch-all phrase "Front Panel". It's an advertising tool. It's a support tool. It's a status tool. It'sa debugging tool. Back to the original poster, if there's not a cage2 in the processor andthe only reason you'd be installing a cage is for this one card, you'reprobably better off using the network device version. If you're determined to just use volume/tone control, the ST-VC isfunctionally identical to the CNX-VTC3 but it sits on the Cresnetnetwork rather than in a card slot. I'd still suggest going the VEQ4 route [though, full disclosure, mysystem at home has 2 ST-VCs because I picked them up uber cheap], inwhich case the network device is the C2N-VEQ4 (functionally identical tothe C2-VEQ4 card). -- Lincoln King-Cliby, CTSApplications EngineerControlWorks Consulting, LLCV: 440-729-4640 F: 440-729-0884 I: Crestron Authorized Independent Programmer-----Original Message-----From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] OnBehalf Of lunarteqSent: Friday, January 11, 2008 4:21 PMTo: Crestron@...: [Crestron] Re: Anyone have a CAGE2 for the AV2?A small group of us here did some math on this several months back andbasically what we found was that retail on an AV2 with card cage waspretty close to retail of a PRO2.Since the PRO2 is Crestron's flagship they promote that unit over allthe others (excepting Adagio), so the theory is they priced it thatway to encourage purchasing the PRO2 over the AV2 with a cage.Its a marketing strategy, basically the same reason as the hot dog andbun thing.ChipG--- In Crestron@..., "fooguy89" <fooguy89@...> wrote:>> Simple. They're the only ones who make it. Therefore, charge what> you want. Plenty of other companies who do very specialized stuff do> exactly the same.> > > --- In Crestron@..., Rodney Young <rodney_james_young@>> wrote:> >> > > > Actually, I have one already that came with the unit. Yes, those> are expensive too; however, at least the Ethernet card has some meat> and potatoes behind it. With the CAGE2, it's just a damn> interconnect. I can't validate how Crestron would charge so much for> so little.> > > > > > > > > > To: Crestron@: cfm@: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 16:40:36 +0000Subject:> [Crestron] Re: Anyone have a CAGE2 for the AV2?> > > > > > > > > > Heh... You haven't bought an Ethernet card for that AV2 yet,> haveyou? :)- Chip--- In Crestron@..., Rodney Young> <rodney_james_young@>wrote:>> > Does anyone out there have a CAGE2> available for a decent price? Ican't believe how much Crestron charges> for a simple interconnect.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________> > Watch "Cause Effect," a show about real people making a realdifference.> > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]> >>Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in theDatabase area. Yahoo! Groups Links
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Jeremy Weatherford
Hey, at least you get something tangible for your money. I just love
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paying $2000 for a string of letters and digits to "unlock" the functionality of software I already have. On Jan 11, 2008 1:41 AM, Rodney Young <rodney_james_young@...> wrote:
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From: "Rodney Young" <rodney_james_young@...>
I got that CNX card off ebay for $46 total. From this, I thoughtWell, if you're patient, a CAGE2 will show up on ebay sooner or later (a new one sold for $112.50 a week or so back) - it might include an AV2, in which case you'll have a pair of AV2's or could resell on of them. Otherwise, you're into this for such short money, that it shouldn't be THAT painful to cough up the money for the CAGE2. Another option is to watch out for a PRO2 on ebay. Also keep an eye out here - some of the dealers sell some of the overstock items for reasonable prices once in a while. You're not likely to find a lot of sympathy for having to pay for the hardware on this list - the majority of the members are dealers (or work with/for dealers) and sell the hardware as part of their revenue stream. If you want to get the equipment for less than full retail, you need to shop ebay, become a dealer, or come up with a mutually beneficial relationship with a dealer. -- Geoffrey Reynolds |
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Chip Moody
So little? They're giving you the ability to add up to nine
additional com ports to your AV2 - among other possibilities - without resorting to external bus devices. You're not paying for what it is, but for what it enables you to do... :) - Chip --- In Crestron@..., Rodney Young <rodney_james_young@...> wrote: Crestron would charge so much for so little. |
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Chip Moody
Hey, it's a somewhat usable user interface, too! :)
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- Chip --- In Crestron@..., "Lincoln King-Cliby" <lincoln@...> wrote:
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