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?I figure I'm doing something foolish but could use some advice.? I run all my interfaces through Control Crosspoints and the Source equipment through Equipment crosspoints (many rooms to many sources but only one of each at a time).? I have no issues with the feedback if I have a remote (TSR/MTX) and a panel (TSW or Phone App with analog sliders) using a swamp but with my Denon AVR's I get a feedback loop that takes a minute or two to settle. Things work fine using the vol +/- buttons and the feedback, but when I go to a panel select a Denon room the volume starts jumping (does not do this on SWAMP rooms).

I suspect the Control - Equipment connection drives the feedback out of sync and causes a loop while it catches up but I'm not sure.? I've played around with buffers to try and stabilize this but they induce other problems.? I think I've tried forcing refreshes on the crosspoints as well but in all honesty I've lost track of all the things I've done.

Is there a simple way around this?? The next thing I'm thinking is to use a buffer on the interface side that receives the raw output of the denon analog vol bypassing the crosspoints and when enabled pushes that to the feedback but it seems I'm probably missing something, in a standalone theater with dedicated panels and remotes this method works.?

I tend to use different names for the volume similar to lighting Volume Bar An FB / Volume Bar Set Level.?

I've wrapped myself around the axle on this one so much that I'm dizzy and I've yet to master the Denon IP modules between AVR Connected/ UI Denon and the actual HW modules so maybe I have a setting wrong there too?? Demo program hasn't helped much either.?

I've learned to live with this, but the wife is now annoyed with it so it must be fixed...

Thanks

Hi Jay R.
If I'm understanding your issue - The Slider is sending Analog values to the AVR and the AVR feedback is re-seeding the Slider with the real-time value from it.
With Crestron gear I also have not had issues, and in general I wouldn't suspect the Crosspoints. I have had issues with this kind of thing, with AVR volume feedback as my experience is that they are a bit sluggish in the return timing.

I use (2) ABuffers, an Analog one-shot and a NOT.
-Your Analog Ramp values go ultimately to the XP/AVR Volume in (as I suspect you have already)
-the OUTPUTs of both ABUFs go to the XP/Slider FB
-Your Analog Ramp from your slider to the input of ABUF #1, AND to the input of the AOS
-Feedback from your AVR volume goes to the input of ABUF #2
-Output for the AOS goes to the enable of ABUF #1 and the input of the NOT
-Output of the NOT goes to the enable of ABUF #2
-AOS time parameter should be about 1s

The idea is that when you are ramping the volume, The Ramp levels are fed back to your Slider in a very quick fashion so it keeps up.
After you stop ramping (~1s) the ABUF #2 gets enabled and passes thru the AVR's actual volume level so your slider is correct.

HTH...

Yes, that's what I'm experiencing.? I'll give your suggestions a try, I was thinking of just adding a delay to allow the AVR to catch up but your suggestions sound more elegant.

Thanks,
Jay

Your approach seems to have solved it, thanks.? I also found an additional buffer I had on the control side which prolonged the bounce, once I removed that things are smooth.

Glad you solved it!