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Before I spend a bunch of time hunting down my particular problem, can someone tell me if a SWAMP automatically overrides it's mute when turning on or changing volume? Since it doesn't have the "old" style positive mute line like a PAD8, I think that if the unit is muted and then turns on, it cancels the mute.
Thanks, Heath
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I just tested using the Sonnex tool - if I mute a zone, and then change the source, it un-mutes. It also un-mutes if I change it to source zero (off)
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From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of Heath Volmer
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 3:43 PM
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Subject: [Crestron] SWAMP mute
Before I spend a bunch of time hunting down my particular problem, can someone tell me if a SWAMP automatically overrides it's mute when turning on or changing volume? Since it doesn't have the "old" style positive mute line like a PAD8, I think that if the unit is muted and then turns on, it cancels the mute.
Thanks, Heath
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I did the same after I posted (I remembered the tool) and had the same results - except I didn't check source changes. Thanks Heather. I'll have to modify my logic to reassert the mute on source change if it's supposed to be on. Heath On Aug 5, 2013, at 1:50 PM, Heather Baiman <heather@...> wrote: I just tested using the Sonnex tool - if I mute a zone, and then change the source, it un-mutes. It also un-mutes if I change it to source zero (off)
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From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of Heath Volmer
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 3:43 PM
To: Crestron@... com
Subject: [Crestron] SWAMP mute
Before I spend a bunch of time hunting down my particular problem, can someone tell me if a SWAMP automatically overrides it's mute when turning on or changing volume? Since it doesn't have the "old" style positive mute line like a PAD8, I think that if the unit is muted and then turns on, it cancels the mute.
Thanks, Heath
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To avoid "mute" issues, as you have discovered, i use a AINCF. It holds the mute in place regardless of source selection. Thus I use the symbol complete for vol and mute controls.
PT
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I did the same after I posted (I remembered the tool) and had the same results - except I didn't check source changes. Thanks Heather.
I'll have to modify my logic to reassert the mute on source change if it's supposed to be on.
Heath
On Aug 5, 2013, at 1:50 PM, Heather Baiman <heather@...> wrote:
I just tested using the Sonnex tool - if I mute a zone, and then change the source, it un-mutes. It also un-mutes if I change it to source zero (off)
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From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of Heath Volmer
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 3:43 PM
To: Crestron@... com
Subject: [Crestron] SWAMP mute
Before I spend a bunch of time hunting down my particular problem, can someone tell me if a SWAMP automatically overrides it's mute when turning on or changing volume? Since it doesn't have the "old" style positive mute line like a PAD8, I think that if the unit is muted and then turns on, it cancels the mute.
Thanks, Heath
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Are you talking about "muting" the volume to zero on the AINCF? The only problem I have with that is that there is analog traffic on that analog that can override the level (doorbell, paging) and then I lose the "muted" 0% volume. I was hoping to use the hardware's mute for a for-sure mute when something else could possibly bring it alive. I think I'll try approaching this from the angle: If the SWAMP's mute_fb doesn't match what the program is telling it it should be, fix it... I hate the SWAMP. Heath On Aug 5, 2013, at 2:42 PM, petertuzyk <ptuzyk@...> wrote:
To avoid "mute" issues, as you have discovered, i use a AINCF. It holds the mute in place regardless of source selection. Thus I use the symbol complete for vol and mute controls.
PT
--- In Crestron@..., Heath Volmer <hvolmer@...> wrote:
I did the same after I posted (I remembered the tool) and had the same results - except I didn't check source changes. Thanks Heather.
I'll have to modify my logic to reassert the mute on source change if it's supposed to be on.
Heath
On Aug 5, 2013, at 1:50 PM, Heather Baiman <heather@...> wrote:
I just tested using the Sonnex tool - if I mute a zone, and then change the source, it un-mutes. It also un-mutes if I change it to source zero (off)
-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of Heath Volmer
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 3:43 PM
To: Crestron@... com
Subject: [Crestron] SWAMP mute
Before I spend a bunch of time hunting down my particular problem, can someone tell me if a SWAMP automatically overrides it's mute when turning on or changing volume? Since it doesn't have the "old" style positive mute line like a PAD8, I think that if the unit is muted and then turns on, it cancels the mute.
Thanks, Heath
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What I wound up doing was adding a little bit of logic to my SWAMP module. If the SWAMP's mute feedback isn't in line with what the program thinks it should be, then it quickly puts it back. Now when my paging logic changes sources, the rooms that are supposed to be muted stay that way. No more feedback. Yay! Heath On Aug 5, 2013, at 1:50 PM, Heather Baiman <heather@...> wrote: I just tested using the Sonnex tool - if I mute a zone, and then change the source, it un-mutes. It also un-mutes if I change it to source zero (off)
-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of Heath Volmer
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 3:43 PM
To: Crestron@... com
Subject: [Crestron] SWAMP mute
Before I spend a bunch of time hunting down my particular problem, can someone tell me if a SWAMP automatically overrides it's mute when turning on or changing volume? Since it doesn't have the "old" style positive mute line like a PAD8, I think that if the unit is muted and then turns on, it cancels the mute.
Thanks, Heath
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Why Crestron did that on the SWAMP is beyond me. I don't think I've ever had any bit of audio kit un-mute when changing sources. I think someone screwed up on the firmware development. Hopefully one day Crestron engineering will make this blunder right.
I can see the logic in un-muting when the volume changes and its always bothered me that I had to add logic to do this on various bits of kit.
Some parameters on the SWAMP to set your preferred operation would be awesome. Parameter - Un-mute on source change - so Heath can keep his logic :)
Parameter - Un-mute on volume change
Have a great weekend all
Slip
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--- In Crestron@..., Heath Volmer <hvolmer@...> wrote:
What I wound up doing was adding a little bit of logic to my SWAMP module. If the SWAMP's mute feedback isn't in line with what the program thinks it should be, then it quickly puts it back.
Now when my paging logic changes sources, the rooms that are supposed to be muted stay that way. No more feedback. Yay!
Heath
On Aug 5, 2013, at 1:50 PM, Heather Baiman <heather@...> wrote:
I just tested using the Sonnex tool - if I mute a zone, and then change the source, it un-mutes. It also un-mutes if I change it to source zero (off)
-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of Heath Volmer
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 3:43 PM
To: Crestron@... com
Subject: [Crestron] SWAMP mute
Before I spend a bunch of time hunting down my particular problem, can someone tell me if a SWAMP automatically overrides it's mute when turning on or changing volume? Since it doesn't have the "old" style positive mute line like a PAD8, I think that if the unit is muted and then turns on, it cancels the mute.
Thanks, Heath
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+1. How hard can it be? My rule is that volume up unmutes and volume down does not unmute. And changing sources should just change sources. On Aug 9, 2013 2:25 PM, "slip.cougan" <slip.cougan@...> wrote: **
Why Crestron did that on the SWAMP is beyond me. I don't think I've ever
had any bit of audio kit un-mute when changing sources. I think someone
screwed up on the firmware development. Hopefully one day Crestron
engineering will make this blunder right.
I can see the logic in un-muting when the volume changes and its always
bothered me that I had to add logic to do this on various bits of kit.
Some parameters on the SWAMP to set your preferred operation would be
awesome. Parameter - Un-mute on source change - so Heath can keep his logic
:)
Parameter - Un-mute on volume change
Have a great weekend all
Slip
--- In Crestron@..., Heath Volmer <hvolmer@...> wrote:
What I wound up doing was adding a little bit of logic to my SWAMP
module. If the SWAMP's mute feedback isn't in line with what the program
thinks it should be, then it quickly puts it back.
Now when my paging logic changes sources, the rooms that are supposed to
be muted stay that way. No more feedback. Yay!
Heath
On Aug 5, 2013, at 1:50 PM, Heather Baiman <heather@...> wrote:
I just tested using the Sonnex tool - if I mute a zone, and then
change the source, it un-mutes. It also un-mutes if I change it to source
zero (off)
-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On
Behalf Of Heath Volmer
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 3:43 PM
To: Crestron@... com
Subject: [Crestron] SWAMP mute
Before I spend a bunch of time hunting down my particular problem, can
someone tell me if a SWAMP automatically overrides it's mute when turning
on or changing volume? Since it doesn't have the "old" style positive mute
line like a PAD8, I think that if the unit is muted and then turns on, it
cancels the mute.
Thanks, Heath
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n Aug 9, 2013, at 4:07 PM, Paul Walczak <paul@...> wrote: How hard can it be? As hard as some engineer chooses to make it. Your rule is correct, which is what I had always done. I didn't realize that I had lost that decision making ability - sometimes. There are even cases where the volume might change and I don't want it to unmute.
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I wrote my module to unmute on volume up as well as mute toggle, mute off and room off. That way if it was too loud they could mute and volume down but not mute and ramp the volume to 100% From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of Heath Volmer Sent: Friday, August 09, 2013 5:13 PM To: Crestron@... Subject: Re: [Crestron] Re: SWAMP mute n Aug 9, 2013, at 4:07 PM, Paul Walczak <paul@... <mailto:paul%40ensemblecustom.com> > wrote: How hard can it be? As hard as some engineer chooses to make it. Your rule is correct, which is what I had always done. I didn't realize that I had lost that decision making ability - sometimes. There are even cases where the volume might change and I don't want it to unmute.
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Would you mind sharing? I am working on a swamp for the first time and need to integrate paging and would like to see how you accomplished this.
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--- In Crestron@..., Heath Volmer <hvolmer@...> wrote:
What I wound up doing was adding a little bit of logic to my SWAMP module. If the SWAMP's mute feedback isn't in line with what the program thinks it should be, then it quickly puts it back.
Now when my paging logic changes sources, the rooms that are supposed to be muted stay that way. No more feedback. Yay!
Heath
On Aug 5, 2013, at 1:50 PM, Heather Baiman <heather@...> wrote:
I just tested using the Sonnex tool - if I mute a zone, and then change the source, it un-mutes. It also un-mutes if I change it to source zero (off)
-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of Heath Volmer
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 3:43 PM
To: Crestron@... com
Subject: [Crestron] SWAMP mute
Before I spend a bunch of time hunting down my particular problem, can someone tell me if a SWAMP automatically overrides it's mute when turning on or changing volume? Since it doesn't have the "old" style positive mute line like a PAD8, I think that if the unit is muted and then turns on, it cancels the mute.
Thanks, Heath
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I forgot to say that I have always done it using the ControlWorks module with AES and BiPads and would like to incorporate into a SWAMP.
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Would you mind sharing? I am working on a swamp for the first time and need to integrate paging and would like to see how you accomplished this.
--- In Crestron@..., Heath Volmer <hvolmer@> wrote:
What I wound up doing was adding a little bit of logic to my SWAMP module. If the SWAMP's mute feedback isn't in line with what the program thinks it should be, then it quickly puts it back.
Now when my paging logic changes sources, the rooms that are supposed to be muted stay that way. No more feedback. Yay!
Heath
On Aug 5, 2013, at 1:50 PM, Heather Baiman <heather@> wrote:
I just tested using the Sonnex tool - if I mute a zone, and then change the source, it un-mutes. It also un-mutes if I change it to source zero (off)
-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of Heath Volmer
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 3:43 PM
To: Crestron@... com
Subject: [Crestron] SWAMP mute
Before I spend a bunch of time hunting down my particular problem, can someone tell me if a SWAMP automatically overrides it's mute when turning on or changing volume? Since it doesn't have the "old" style positive mute line like a PAD8, I think that if the unit is muted and then turns on, it cancels the mute.
Thanks, Heath
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