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CEN-COM Falling Offline/Excessive Update Requests


 

I recently pulled a CEN-COM off my "shelf-o-random-Crestron stuff" to use for with the serial interface for my alarm panel (with the eventual idea being to put it on its own processor)

Anyway I've noticed that it will occasionally fall offline (yet I can still ping it from the processor, and I can ping the processor from it), and other times it will generate an update request with every string that it receives from the panel.

Aside from dropping it out a 3rd floor window, any ideas to make the thing more stable? I realize the CEN-COM like most of the other "first generation" CEN-stuff has been pushed far, far, far to the side [which is too bad, because the CEN-CN actually seems like quite a useful product].

Lincoln


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Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Applications Engineer
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC

V: 440.729.4640 x1107 F: 440.729.0884 I:
Crestron Authorized Independent Programmer


 

Lincoln,

2 Things come to mind. Are you running it on a gig switch? And do you have
it set to auto-negotiate? Try setting it to 100/Full or 10/Full, I've seen
similar issues like this with other Crestron Ethernet stuff.

Mark

On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 9:53 PM, Lincoln King-Cliby <
lincoln@...> wrote:

I recently pulled a CEN-COM off my "shelf-o-random-Crestron stuff" to
use for with the serial interface for my alarm panel (with the eventual idea
being to put it on its own processor)

Anyway I've noticed that it will occasionally fall offline (yet I can still
ping it from the processor, and I can ping the processor from it), and other
times it will generate an update request with every string that it receives
from the panel.

Aside from dropping it out a 3rd floor window, any ideas to make the thing
more stable? I realize the CEN-COM like most of the other "first generation"
CEN-stuff has been pushed far, far, far to the side [which is too bad,
because the CEN-CN actually seems like quite a useful product].

Lincoln

--

Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Applications Engineer
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC

V: 440.729.4640 x1107 F: 440.729.0884 I:
Crestron Authorized Independent Programmer





 

Mark,

It's on a 10/100 switch; but since (AFAIK) all of the early CEN-stuff was limited to 10/Half you may have a good point.

The SHOW INTERFACES STATUS from the switch (Cisco Catalyst 2920) shows that it had auto negotiated to 10 meg half duplex, but I'll try forcing the configuration just to eliminate that as a possibility. (Note to self for when I need to change it back: interface Fa0/7)

Lincoln

--
Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Applications Engineer
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
V: 440.729.4640 x1107 F: 440.729.0884 I:
Crestron Authorized Independent Programmer

-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of Mark Delzer
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 9:57 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: Re: [Crestron] CEN-COM Falling Offline/Excessive Update Requests

Lincoln,

2 Things come to mind. Are you running it on a gig switch? And do you have
it set to auto-negotiate? Try setting it to 100/Full or 10/Full, I've seen
similar issues like this with other Crestron Ethernet stuff.

Mark

On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 9:53 PM, Lincoln King-Cliby <
lincoln@...> wrote:

I recently pulled a CEN-COM off my "shelf-o-random-Crestron stuff" to
use for with the serial interface for my alarm panel (with the eventual idea
being to put it on its own processor)

Anyway I've noticed that it will occasionally fall offline (yet I can still
ping it from the processor, and I can ping the processor from it), and other
times it will generate an update request with every string that it receives
from the panel.

Aside from dropping it out a 3rd floor window, any ideas to make the thing
more stable? I realize the CEN-COM like most of the other "first generation"
CEN-stuff has been pushed far, far, far to the side [which is too bad,
because the CEN-CN actually seems like quite a useful product].

Lincoln

--

Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Applications Engineer
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC

V: 440.729.4640 x1107 F: 440.729.0884 I:
Crestron Authorized Independent Programmer

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The CEN-COM was after and before my time, it came and went while I was on a
brief hiatus from this industry so I was never up on the specs. They pretty
much killed it when the QM-RMC came out. It should be interesting to see if
this fixes your issue or at least improves it.

Mark

On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 10:15 PM, Lincoln King-Cliby <
lincoln@...> wrote:

Mark,

It's on a 10/100 switch; but since (AFAIK) all of the early CEN-stuff was
limited to 10/Half you may have a good point.

The SHOW INTERFACES STATUS from the switch (Cisco Catalyst 2920) shows that
it had auto negotiated to 10 meg half duplex, but I'll try forcing the
configuration just to eliminate that as a possibility. (Note to self for
when I need to change it back: interface Fa0/7)

Lincoln

--
Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Applications Engineer
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
V: 440.729.4640 x1107 F: 440.729.0884 I:
Crestron Authorized Independent Programmer

-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... <Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:
Crestron@... <Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of Mark
Delzer
Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2009 9:57 PM
To: Crestron@... <Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [Crestron] CEN-COM Falling Offline/Excessive Update Requests

Lincoln,

2 Things come to mind. Are you running it on a gig switch? And do you have
it set to auto-negotiate? Try setting it to 100/Full or 10/Full, I've seen
similar issues like this with other Crestron Ethernet stuff.

Mark

On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 9:53 PM, Lincoln King-Cliby <
lincoln@... <lincoln%40controlworks.com>> wrote:

I recently pulled a CEN-COM off my "shelf-o-random-Crestron stuff" to
use for with the serial interface for my alarm panel (with the eventual
idea
being to put it on its own processor)

Anyway I've noticed that it will occasionally fall offline (yet I can
still
ping it from the processor, and I can ping the processor from it), and
other
times it will generate an update request with every string that it
receives
from the panel.

Aside from dropping it out a 3rd floor window, any ideas to make the
thing
more stable? I realize the CEN-COM like most of the other "first
generation"
CEN-stuff has been pushed far, far, far to the side [which is too bad,
because the CEN-CN actually seems like quite a useful product].

Lincoln

--

Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Applications Engineer
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC

V: 440.729.4640 x1107 F: 440.729.0884 I:
Crestron Authorized Independent Programmer






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CEN-COM was indeed during the first generation of equipment - X
Generation. You may wish to stick it behind a router to cut traffic
that the thing is seeing, they really didn't handle even moderate
traffic very well.


--- In Crestron@..., Lincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@...> wrote:

I recently pulled a CEN-COM off my "shelf-o-random-Crestron stuff"
to use for with the serial interface for my alarm panel (with the
eventual idea being to put it on its own processor)

Anyway I've noticed that it will occasionally fall offline (yet I
can still ping it from the processor, and I can ping the processor
from it), and other times it will generate an update request with
every string that it receives from the panel.

Aside from dropping it out a 3rd floor window, any ideas to make the
thing more stable? I realize the CEN-COM like most of the other "first
generation" CEN-stuff has been pushed far, far, far to the side [which
is too bad, because the CEN-CN actually seems like quite a useful
product].

Lincoln


--

Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Applications Engineer
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC

V: 440.729.4640 x1107 F: 440.729.0884 I:
Crestron Authorized Independent Programmer



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Chip Moody
 

Damn... Nice (mis?)use of Yahoo! Groups, Lincoln. We're your own
private database now? :)

- Chip

--- In Crestron@..., Lincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@...> wrote:

(Note to self for when I need to change it back: interface Fa0/7)

Lincoln


 

I know sooner or later I'm going to go searching for it, and where else would I put it? At least I didn't include the IP address and password for the switch :D

Anyway to the original question... Forcing the duplex didn't seem to help. I added a Ethernet offline manager with the intent of tickling the update request digital as needed, but I noticed since adding it (at least last night) every time the CEN-COM dropped off line it popped right back.

I'm trying to avoid adding another router to my network, but Foo's suggestion may be the last option before I finally throw the thing across the room and get a QM-RMC or DIN-AP2 for it.

--
Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Applications Engineer
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
V: 440-729-4640 x1107 F: 440-729-0884 I:
Crestron Authorized Independent Programmer

-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of Chip Moody
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 11:18 AM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Re: CEN-COM Falling Offline/Excessive Update Requests


Damn... Nice (mis?)use of Yahoo! Groups, Lincoln. We're your own
private database now? :)

- Chip


--- In Crestron@..., Lincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@...> wrote:

(Note to self for when I need to change it back: interface Fa0/7)

Lincoln

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Chris Erskine
 

1) Tape it to the switch???
2) With the unit on a switch, unless there is a lot of broadcast traffic, it should not be seeing much traffic. If it is broadcast traffic, maybe disabling it on the port. I do not know enough about the protocol but does Crestron use broadcast to the devices?



Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of Lincoln King-Cliby
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 10:41 AM
To: 'Crestron@...'
Subject: RE: [Crestron] Re: CEN-COM Falling Offline/Excessive Update Requests

I know sooner or later I'm going to go searching for it, and where else would I put it? At least I didn't include the IP address and password for the switch :D

Anyway to the original question... Forcing the duplex didn't seem to help. I added a Ethernet offline manager with the intent of tickling the update request digital as needed, but I noticed since adding it (at least last night) every time the CEN-COM dropped off line it popped right back.

I'm trying to avoid adding another router to my network, but Foo's suggestion may be the last option before I finally throw the thing across the room and get a QM-RMC or DIN-AP2 for it.

--
Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Applications Engineer
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
V: 440-729-4640 x1107 F: 440-729-0884 I:
Crestron Authorized Independent Programmer
-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of Chip Moody
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 11:18 AM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Re: CEN-COM Falling Offline/Excessive Update Requests


Damn... Nice (mis?)use of Yahoo! Groups, Lincoln. We're your own
private database now? :)

- Chip


--- In Crestron@..., Lincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@...> wrote:

(Note to self for when I need to change it back: interface Fa0/7)

Lincoln

------------------------------------



Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the Database area.
Yahoo! Groups Links




------------------------------------



Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the Database area.
Yahoo! Groups Links


 

CADDX polls things in a tight loop based on the number of zones you
told the module.

Might have to insert a short delay somewhere to cut back on the endless
flow of traffic.




--- In Crestron@..., Lincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@...> wrote:

I recently pulled a CEN-COM off my "shelf-o-random-Crestron stuff" to
use for with the serial interface for my alarm panel (with the eventual
idea being to put it on its own processor)