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Re: Let's have a candid conversation.
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýWell, enterprise it-applications based on a subscription do that check locally within the software. When the subscription expires, you get a warning and then you just renew it with a new key. All locally without a dongle or Internet access required. ? Cheers, Thorsten ? Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> Im Auftrag von Lincoln King-Cliby via groups.io ? When you're running on commodity hardware, or in VMs short of using a hardware dongle there aren't many other ways to ensure that people aren't just cloning the machine over and over ... But it is one of the main reasons many of my clients aren't interested in VC4. ? Interestingly one of my clients who is most adamantly against it the concept has a counterpart was just talked into VC4 by the integrator to get around a "not enough processors". I'm afraid to ask if all of the caveats were discussed. ? Get From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Crestron_Programmer <s.marszalek11@...>
Sent: Friday, September 9, 2022 9:53:04 AM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [crestron] Let¡¯s have a candid conversation. ? Who else thinks "phoning home every 90 days" is TOTAL BS ?! |
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Re: Crestron control system with non Crestron MTR
#crestron
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýThat comes the rub, at least in my experience fewer and fewer meetings are staffed by the "trained person" -- the notable exceptions being "all hands" type meetings -- and in those the executive likely isn't the one driving the teams/zoom meeting either. Providing the custom functionality as a duplicate XPanel can be useful for those "remote assist" type moments and of course this doesn't answer the "can you" question... Which AFAIK is "yes but only if you do everything through automation (e.g. sync detection) or use two different UIs...at which point the Crestron packaged solution starts to look less appealing compared to some of the more mainstream MTR offeringsGet From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Cory <cory@...>
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 6:48:54 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [crestron] Crestron control system with non Crestron MTR #crestron ?
I have heard different opinions on the practicality, but I prefer to actually have two panels, one Crestron, one MTR.? The person holding the meeting can drive the call like they are used to, and an assistant, or the IT person, or other support person
can drive the room.? My opinion is this provides a nice separation of work, and lets the executive focus on their meeting, and the trained personnel can likewise drive the room safely.
Cory Sarzotti
Synergy Media GroupOn Thu, Sep 8, 2022 at 9:59 AM Andy Ross <sifuas@...> wrote:
It won't have any integration with the unit, but you can definitely have it in a Crestron control system but you would need another panel / UI to run the teams interface. The Crestron Flex systems have specific crestron software running on them that allows them to "integrate" with the control system and crestron panels. That software isn't installed on any other manufacturer systems. |
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Re: Let¡¯s have a candid conversation.
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýWhen you're running on commodity hardware, or in VMs short of using a hardware dongle there aren't many other ways to ensure that people aren't just cloning the machine over and over ... But it is one of the main reasons many of my clients aren't
interested in VC4.
Interestingly one of my clients who is most adamantly against it the concept has a counterpart was just talked into VC4 by the integrator to get around a "not enough processors". I'm afraid to ask if all of the caveats were discussed.
Get From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Crestron_Programmer <s.marszalek11@...>
Sent: Friday, September 9, 2022 9:53:04 AM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [crestron] Let¡¯s have a candid conversation. ?
Who else thinks "phoning home every 90 days" is TOTAL BS ?!
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Re: Slowing Down For Loop In SImpl+
#simpl
Had no idea that existed, Actually Dimming a videowall so the context it perfect. works great thanks !
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Re: Let¡¯s have a candid conversation.
With used 3-series and/or VC4 we can spec all the other pieces from others...A sad day though...Therein lies the problem.? Why stop there then, ditch the processor and sandbox, and go to a RaspPi or some other box, and you have full linux OS stack open to your liking.? Who needs Crestron at that point, you are already sinking big time+money into R&D since you already have to learn to write all the code on disparate languages and frameworks from hodgepodge vendors.? They are pushing to be obsolete fast if THAT is what the solution to their shortcoming has become. I have clients that are looking at all kinds of options, Including going back to AMX after finally dropping them years ago.? I'm not sure if Crestron realizes how desparate some integrators are becoming.? Maybe they do, and are just playing it off to hopefully keep everyone from jumping ship while waiting around... -- Jason Mussetter Control Systems Designer Mussetter Programming Services |
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Re: Let¡¯s have a candid conversation.
¡°I know, it?s better than nothing, but I just prefer rack format.¡° fair enough, just interested¡.stick it on a rack shelf¡.problem solved¡??¡..lol just gone through the online training, more like promo TBH¡..now left with a few security question. 1. unit must have internet access to xio cloud every 90 days or stops working,? 2. how does the Linux OS get updated with security patches? ? |
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Re: Slowing Down For Loop In SImpl+
#simpl
FUNCTION GetStrings(integer presetNum)
{
Integer i;
? ? For (i = 0 TO ArraySize-1)
{
StringData[i+1] = PresetListsObj.GetStringData(presetNum-1, i);
delay (100);
}
}
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Re: Let¡¯s have a candid conversation.
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýI know, it?s better than nothing, but I just prefer rack format. ? Cheers, Thorsten ? Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> Im Auftrag von ScubaSteve ?
Why? ? Its a decent spec PC, well built and reliable¡¡..my understanding is that if you want to use your own hardware there is an installable option too¡.not quite a Processor in a box but an option. |
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Re: Let¡¯s have a candid conversation.
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýAs said, the VC4-PC3 includes 3 rooms, so if you usually use 4 programs, that would require one additional license on top. However, I hate the Mini-PC form factor¡ ? Cheers, Thorsten ? ? Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> Im Auftrag von ckangis ? Regarding the use of VC4 for residential, we don't live in a "per room" world. For example, I typically have a main program that the client interfaces are run on, and several other programs, running on other processors, for lighting, shades, security, access, etc." |
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Re: Let¡¯s have a candid conversation.
"Brian Matson
Regarding the use of VC4 for residential, we don't live in a "per room" world.
So, does that equate to a "per program" model as well? Room=Program, but as I understand it, each 'Room/Program' needs a license @ $ 500.00/ea, thus Main Program Sonos Management Security Interface Lighting Interface $ 2000.00 in licensing... |
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Re: Let¡¯s have a candid conversation.
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýYou¡¯ll have to do some digging but there is a USB to NIC adapter that can be configured to be used for multiple subnets.? Not sure what the recommended model is. ? -Noah ? From:
[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of ScubaSteve <stevebutterworth@...> Not had chance to follow up yet on the VC4. ?Does anyone know how/if a 2nd NIC can be used created of a Subnet, like the CP3N/CP4N for example. ?Can¡¯t see any info in the technical details. The Dell MFF only
has 1 NIC onboard. ?Any info appreciated. |
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Re: Let¡¯s have a candid conversation.
Not had chance to follow up yet on the VC4. ?Does anyone know how/if a 2nd NIC can be used created of a Subnet, like the CP3N/CP4N for example. ?Can¡¯t see any info in the technical details. The Dell MFF only has 1 NIC onboard. ?Any info appreciated.
re TouchPanels, iPads with the Go APP installed much cheaper than $7000¡..?¡lol¡..and available in bucket loads. |
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Re: Let¡¯s have a candid conversation.
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýYes, ?room¡° equates to ?program¡±. ? Cheers, Thorsten ? Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> Im Auftrag von Brian Matson ? Regarding the use of VC4 for residential, we don't live in a "per room" world. |
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Re: Let¡¯s have a candid conversation.
Regarding the use of VC4 for residential, we don't live in a "per room" world.
So, does that equate to a "per program" model as well? For example, I typically have a main program that the client interfaces are run on, and several other programs, running on other processors, for lighting, shades, security, access, etc. Thanks, Brian |