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Re: LG OLED TV CCD IP Driver - How to get it to work on a CP3?

 

Update:
I changed the order of the passcode and MAC-address, and now control works partially.
I only need power on/off, input switching and power feedback.
That works, except power-on and power feedback. The latter is aways high, regardless of the actuall state of the TV and power-on just doesn¡¯t work.

Any ideas where to look at?

Thanks,
Thorsten

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Von: Thorsten K?hler <thorsten.koehler@...>
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 15. November 2023 20:04
An: '[email protected]' <[email protected]>
Betreff: AW: [crestron] LG OLED TV CCD IP Driver - How to get it to work on a CP3?

Thanks, Tony.
Enabling logging revealed the following messages:
?00:02:52.344: [Console Data] : 048-12:05:26.696 ( 3) [Info ] CORD - LG Smart TV : Processing control command Connection.Connect()
00:02:52.344: [Console Data] : 048-12:05:26.704 ( 3) [Info ] TSPT - TcpTransport : Client made with to 192.168.1.56:9761
00:02:52.344: [Console Data] : 048-12:05:26.725 ( 3) [Debug ] TSPT - TcpTransport : ConnectToServerAsync return code: SOCKET_OK
00:02:52.359: [Console Data] : 048-12:05:26.739 ( 3) [Info ] CAPA - BasicInformation : Set UserAttribute 'MACAddress' = '9DHB1TVF'
00:02:52.359: [Console Data] : 048-12:05:26.746 ( 3) [Info ] CAPA - BasicInformation : Set UserAttribute 'MACAddress' = '9DHB1TVF'
00:02:52.359: [Console Data] : 048-12:05:26.750 ( 3) [Info ] CAPA - BasicInformation : Set UserAttribute 'OnScreenId' = '7C:64:6C:0E:80:10'
00:02:52.359: [Console Data] : 048-12:05:26.756 ( 3) [Info ] CAPA - BasicInformation : Set UserAttribute 'OnScreenId' = '7C:64:6C:0E:80:10'"

Looks to me as if i?m sending the MAC and the passcode in the wrong order ("9DHB1TVF" is the passcode).

I?ll change it into program and report back.

Thanks,
Thorsten


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Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> Im Auftrag von Tony Golden
Gesendet: Montag, 13. November 2023 14:55
An: [email protected]
Betreff: Re: [crestron] LG OLED TV CCD IP Driver - How to get it to work on a CP3?

Enable logging and watch the Log output in Debugger. That will usually have a clue to the problem. Also check the User Attribute Descriptions, either in Debugger or by opening the dat file in Notepad++ (or equivalent).

Also, with multiple Certified Drivers in the program, they shouldn't all be loaded at once.

--- On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 7:32 AM, Thorsten K?hler wrote:

i tested a bit further and here?s the status:

The exact model numbers of the client?s TVs are OLED97G29LA and OLED83C26LA.

I?ve tried using the FlatPanelDisplay_LG_OLED88Z2PUA-SmartTV_IP from driver.io.
Both model numbers are not listed in the help file for the driver, but
I was assuming that they work anyway.
The driver loads successfully, reports ¡°connected¡± but now function
and feedback for one TV (the 97¡±) and does not even connect to the
83¡±. (see attached screenshot) For the 97¡± TV, the power feedback
toggles between 1 and 0 every few seconds.
Passcodes were created for both TVs.

Any idea where to start looking?
Re: Best way to program for a back up processor

 

What I have done several times is to have both processors have the exact same IP, program(s) and settings, then they just move over the Ethernet cable along with the RS-232 and relay connections. Just have 1 Ethernet cable there so they can't hook up both at the same time. Also, I'd recommend having any initialization that happens to be based on both Program1_Start_F AND LinkStatus1_F (from the Ethernet Device Info Device Extender), so the other processor doesn't need to be rebooted after cables are moved over.
Best way to program for a back up processor

 

Hi All,

I have a UC Engine with room environment controls and lots of Teams Automation.?

The client wants a back up CP4 to take over if the primary CP4 goes down for whatever reason.?


I have 3 coms, relays and 2 TCP/IP clients.?

Currently I have loaded the same program on each CP4 and they are both running simultaneously under different IPID¡¯s (03 & 04) on the UC Engine IP Table.?

The client only has to swap the com cables and the relay cables.?

the program seems to run fine however one of the TCP/IP clients (linked to a QSC Core 110f) has a some mic mute buttons etc and the button response can be slow when both programs are running.?


is there a better way to do this? EISC??


thanks in advance?
Re: LG OLED TV CCD IP Driver - How to get it to work on a CP3?

 

Thanks, Tony.
Enabling logging revealed the following messages:
?00:02:52.344: [Console Data] : 048-12:05:26.696 ( 3) [Info ] CORD - LG Smart TV : Processing control command Connection.Connect()
00:02:52.344: [Console Data] : 048-12:05:26.704 ( 3) [Info ] TSPT - TcpTransport : Client made with to 192.168.1.56:9761
00:02:52.344: [Console Data] : 048-12:05:26.725 ( 3) [Debug ] TSPT - TcpTransport : ConnectToServerAsync return code: SOCKET_OK
00:02:52.359: [Console Data] : 048-12:05:26.739 ( 3) [Info ] CAPA - BasicInformation : Set UserAttribute 'MACAddress' = '9DHB1TVF'
00:02:52.359: [Console Data] : 048-12:05:26.746 ( 3) [Info ] CAPA - BasicInformation : Set UserAttribute 'MACAddress' = '9DHB1TVF'
00:02:52.359: [Console Data] : 048-12:05:26.750 ( 3) [Info ] CAPA - BasicInformation : Set UserAttribute 'OnScreenId' = '7C:64:6C:0E:80:10'
00:02:52.359: [Console Data] : 048-12:05:26.756 ( 3) [Info ] CAPA - BasicInformation : Set UserAttribute 'OnScreenId' = '7C:64:6C:0E:80:10'"

Looks to me as if i?m sending the MAC and the passcode in the wrong order ("9DHB1TVF" is the passcode).

I?ll change it into program and report back.

Thanks,
Thorsten


-----Urspr¨¹ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> Im Auftrag von Tony Golden
Gesendet: Montag, 13. November 2023 14:55
An: [email protected]
Betreff: Re: [crestron] LG OLED TV CCD IP Driver - How to get it to work on a CP3?

Enable logging and watch the Log output in Debugger. That will usually have a clue to the problem. Also check the User Attribute Descriptions, either in Debugger or by opening the dat file in Notepad++ (or equivalent).

Also, with multiple Certified Drivers in the program, they shouldn't all be loaded at once.

--- On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 7:32 AM, Thorsten K?hler wrote:

i tested a bit further and here?s the status:

The exact model numbers of the client?s TVs are OLED97G29LA and OLED83C26LA.

I?ve tried using the FlatPanelDisplay_LG_OLED88Z2PUA-SmartTV_IP from driver.io.
Both model numbers are not listed in the help file for the driver, but
I was assuming that they work anyway.
The driver loads successfully, reports ¡°connected¡± but now function
and feedback for one TV (the 97¡±) and does not even connect to the
83¡±. (see attached screenshot) For the 97¡± TV, the power feedback
toggles between 1 and 0 every few seconds.
Passcodes were created for both TVs.

Any idea where to start looking?
Re: EISC from one Pro4 to many CP4N's with the same IPID

 

I forgot to mention, we have about 50 spaces, each with CP4N, and I'm working on getting all of them on the exact same program that I'll be able to mass load. Plus, the head-end Pro4 manages all the NVX's in the building (they didn't buy a Director), and I only have 83 IPID's left, which is why I wasn't trying to do the separate IPID thing. We also plan on adding at least 20 rooms in the new part of the building, along with many more NVX's, so I'm trying to make it expansion-ready.

For my application, I was just having it refresh the text only when the remote processors push the tuner control button, so timing shouldn't be an issue.

I guess a TCP/IP Server/Client with xsig would work, so I may go that route, especially since it's very unlikely that all rooms would be pressing the tuner control button at the same time.

We also have a Fusion server that isn't set up yet that I plan on getting working at some point.
Re: EISC from one Pro4 to many CP4N's with the same IPID

 

Ha ha MSTC. I fixed it.
I meant per processor, auto correct changed it...
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Circular, a French technology company, has just announced its next generation smart ring, Circular Ring Slim.? This new ring measures a host of health metrics and is the thinnest and lightest smart ring on the market.

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Thanks
Re: EISC from one Pro4 to many CP4N's with the same IPID

 

That sounds magical, what is it?

?On 11/15/23, 10:05 AM, "Eric Luckart" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> on behalf of eluckart@... <mailto:eluckart@...>> wrote:


EISC is one to one not one to many. Why not just use an ipid power processor?
Re: EISC from one Pro4 to many CP4N's with the same IPID

 

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What is the timing requirement for updating the remote processors?? Is this a thing that could be accomplished at some interval or does it need to be real time?? You can accomplish the transfer of data through a timed enable of communication with the PRO4 on an individual basis, perhaps when the room is idling (not in use), and the users would never experience the lag.? A long time ago Crestron processors and Prodigy processors could not communicate via EISC, but the same basic thing could be accomplished ?using XSIG and TCP/IP server/clients.? In your case you could manage the connection at the client side.

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From: <[email protected]> on behalf of "Charles Jones via groups.io" <mokasa@...>
Reply-To: <[email protected]>
Date: Wednesday, November 15, 2023 at 9:57 AM
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: [crestron] EISC from one Pro4 to many CP4N's with the same IPID

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Hi All,

I'm trying to get this working where my Pro4 has, for now, a bunch of channel labels that I want any of the 50+ CP4N's to access to update the buttons on the local touch panels in the rooms.

Attempt 1 Regular EISC:

  • Pro4 EISC at IPID FD with 127.0.0.1 as the IP
  • All the CP4N's at IPID FD with the IP of the Pro4, 10.100.96.10
  • Pro4 side would never show as online and signals never pass

Attempt 2 EISC Server/Client:

  • Pro4 EISC Server at IPID FD with 127.0.0.1 as the IP
  • All the CP4N's have EISC Client at IPID FD with the IP of the Pro4, 10.100.96.10
  • Both processors show as online at IPID FD, and the signals pass fine, but I keep getting an "Update request from Slot-023.IP-ID-FD in Program 01" message like every second on all processors, causing a big lag in touch panel control.

What is the best way to accomplish this?

Charles

Re: EISC from one Pro4 to many CP4N's with the same IPID

 
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EISC is one to one not one to many. Why not just use an ipid per processor?
EISC from one Pro4 to many CP4N's with the same IPID

 

Hi All,

I'm trying to get this working where my Pro4 has, for now, a bunch of channel labels that I want any of the 50+ CP4N's to access to update the buttons on the local touch panels in the rooms.

Attempt 1 Regular EISC:
  • Pro4 EISC at IPID FD with 127.0.0.1 as the IP
  • All the CP4N's at IPID FD with the IP of the Pro4, 10.100.96.10
  • Pro4 side would never show as online and signals never pass
Attempt 2 EISC Server/Client:
  • Pro4 EISC Server at IPID FD with 127.0.0.1 as the IP
  • All the CP4N's have EISC Client at IPID FD with the IP of the Pro4, 10.100.96.10
  • Both processors show as online at IPID FD, and the signals pass fine, but I keep getting an "Update request from Slot-023.IP-ID-FD in Program 01" message like every second on all processors, causing a big lag in touch panel control.
What is the best way to accomplish this?

Charles
Re: TS-770 How to go back to User Project after launching Sonos app

 

On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 09:38 AM, XSDS wrote:
Really wish Crestron would ask the community for feedback on these sorts of things before just including them for us to deal with after the fact.? But ya know, Home.
Cue Barbara Streisand singing 'Memories...'
:)
Re: NVX Weirdness

Michael S Moran
 

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Brian,

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Can¡¯t explain your issues but the Rack Build seems on point, from a temperature control perspective.

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Good Luck

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Best regards,

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Michael? S. Moran

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?? Office:?? 561.391.1843

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Brian Matson
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2023 4:22 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [crestron] NVX Weirdness

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Thanks for the replies, everyone.

Yes, there is a TSTAT in the rack reading 74 degrees, and it controls the mini-split unit.
They had originally supplied the unit from a shared condenser, and we received temp warnings because it was in heat mode for the winter.
So, it has its own outdoor unit now.

Also, the rack is enclosed with intakes on the bottom and fans to expel heat from the top.

It's just kind of crazy that 6 of the 7 363 cards had just the username and password reset.
I don't even think that a console initialize would reset just the UN and PW.

Brian

NVX frame rates

 

Just another quick NVX question.

As far as I can tell NVX only has integer frame rates. Eg 24p and 60p. It doesn¡¯t seem to be able to output 23.98 or 59.94 frame rates. That means it has judder when playing a 23.98 input

Am I missing something. ??? Hopefully I am wrong.
Re: NVX Weirdness

 

Thanks for the replies, everyone.

Yes, there is a TSTAT in the rack reading 74 degrees, and it controls the mini-split unit.
They had originally supplied the unit from a shared condenser, and we received temp warnings because it was in heat mode for the winter.
So, it has its own outdoor unit now.

Also, the rack is enclosed with intakes on the bottom and fans to expel heat from the top.

It's just kind of crazy that 6 of the 7 363 cards had just the username and password reset.
I don't even think that a console initialize would reset just the UN and PW.

Brian
Re: NVX Weirdness

Michael S Moran
 

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Heat is always an issue.? That said, there is heat and then there is pant on fire.

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Have you deployed any active cooling?? Do you have proper build distribution to funnel

The heat In and Out of the Rack?? ?As we all know, heat rises.? If you have adequate inlet and outlet vents

In the right places, the rack can cool without active cooling.? This naturally assumes you don¡¯t have a tube or Class A

Amp cooking the rest of your gear.

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We typically utilize active cooling, at the very top of the racks, and also utilize variable speed fans with a T-Stat.?

This also assumes that there is enough $$$ in your build budget to get the job done more-better. ?

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Best regards,

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Michael? S. Moran

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?? Office:?? 561.391.1843

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of gbnet.hifi@...
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2023 3:35 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [crestron] NVX Weirdness

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Do you think heat could be a factor in the rack which is hard to access ?



On 15 Nov 2023, at 6:04 am, Alex Teague <alext@...> wrote:

?That's definitely weird. If I had to guess, I would suspect the power supply on the chassis might be having issues.

Re: NVX Weirdness

 

Heat could always be a factor, but we haven't received any heat alarms from any of the network devices installed there.
Also, the closet has its own mini-split.

The chassis power supply could definitely be a possibility, though.
Re: NVX Weirdness

 

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Do you think heat could be a factor in the rack which is hard to access ?

On 15 Nov 2023, at 6:04 am, Alex Teague <alext@...> wrote:

?That's definitely weird. If I had to guess, I would suspect the power supply on the chassis might be having issues.

Re: NVX Weirdness

 

That's definitely weird. If I had to guess, I would suspect the power supply on the chassis might be having issues.
NVX Weirdness

 

Just wondering if anyone else has seen anything like this?

DM NVX chassis with 8 cards installed, with all NVX cards on the same firmware ... 7.1.5259.00030.

Everything has been working fine for 6 months.
All of a sudden, 6 of the 8 cards are showing that they are in "First Boot" mode.
Here's the strangest part, the only thing that has been initialized is the login.
Every other setting is still completely intact ... hostname, IP info, multicast setup, input routing, EDID, etc.
There is a director in the system, but I don't think that it can just reset the username and password.
Once I setup the login credentials again, everything is back online with the director and working as it was before.

This isn't in a rack that is easily accessible by people.
It is in a hidden closet in a residential installation, so reset from the chassis isn't a concern either.

TB is completely baffled, as am I.

As a precaution, I'm going to script some new firmware, but I just wanted everyone to be aware.

Brian
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