Hoping to get source code for a project you worked on in 2021

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We have worked with many different panels over the years, and the general findings vary greatly on functionality, particularly on the sector the alarm panel has been created/intended from (ie bank sector, large commercial, residential etc).? Our general go to panel in more recent years is the Elk, as Jay has mentioned though no real keypad access from Crestron.? I personally don't see this as a hurdle, as you can do most functions without it, and basically if a password is required that will need to be entered before hand. The communication protocol is available and quite extensive.? Just requires more effort to make a seamless system for the homeowner.

I am just in the middle of a job where the security company has changed the panel from a Concept to a Elk.? However the client still wants it to work the way the Concept worked ie multiple arming functions etc.? Part of the head hitting the wall to how people are resistant to change, requires delicate conversations and? preferably discussions upfront as to expectations on how it will work, and could be easier etc...We have managed to get it to work in the way they want, however utilised all the areas in the panels, and many rules, and function keys to achieve this.

There are a couple of caveats with the Elk though (and would love any input on this):
- if you had an alarm or something else, alarm will not respond correctly from the Crestron connection, need to enter the pin and hit disarm a couple of times before operating correctly from the Crestron again.
- i have had instability on TCP connections over the years, and have insisted on rs232 because of it.? This obviously hinders remote programming, 3rd party Elk apps etc. More recent firmware on the Elk has seemed to fix this.
- When programming ELK, Crestron is kicked out (using TCP) therefore need to do an update when it reconnects to TCP (should be a normal programming practice anyway)
- Biggest Issue i am facing is with 3 & 4 Series processors.? I have modified the original Crestron Application Market module code a bit (added in Threadsafe etc).? However the modules crash internally somehow, not sure if it is a crash or just some data getting missed etc.? you can still control the panel, ie arm disarm, control outputs, however all feedback stops working (ie status etc).? This is only happening on larger systems that i can see, and obviously a large amount of data coming into the processor is overwhelming it.? For the time being on the systems this has become a problem, I have utilised a 2 series processor (cp2e etc) to deal with all the data received from the alarm panel then sending the processed data on to the 3/4 series processor.? Any bench testing this issue in the office doesn't show the issue, and working through this with a client is incredibly difficult, as it will just stop working at any time, and the client doesn't realise.

Matt

ah, I see. I need to set Shelly I/O URL Actions.

All set.

Jay @jbasen ,
I'm running v23.1 (Dimmer v6) with a Shelly Wall Dimmer and I receive no feedback from button presses (nor local brightness which I think I understand is a limitation of Shelly). I've tried all the Input signals with no luck.?
I need to keep dimmer state consistent with my Crestron system, and am OK with polling, but I need an event to drive the poll.

BTW, beautiful job on the modules. I'm new to Shelly, but I had your code up and running first time.?

Thanks,
Jeffrey

I've been battling this issue intermittently with a site for the last few months also...
After a CP3 reboot, things are stable for some period of time (sometimes for months), then the system will grind to a halt.
we don't seem to see general network issues, just issues with the rack equipment which has its own switch and the TSWs with are served from the main network switch...
When I see the issue I also have the same stuff in the logs:

? ?FECTimer: Exceeded Receive Packet Trip Count, dwRxPacketReceived: 4200 in 1000 milliseconds

? ?FECTimer: Ethernet disabled by watchdog

? ?FECTimer: ETH RX re-enabled by watchdog

No streaming AVoIP stuff. Just one sonos player and DirectTV (Moca, but no ethernet connection), Middle Atlantic RackLink devices, DM8x8, (2) Episode AVRs (IP), x52 series TSWs, Luma NVR, etc.
Program is pretty standard for me, nothing like this at other sites.
NO PORT FORWARDs!!!!

It seems weird that rebooting the CP3 would eliminate the issue, for? days, weeks, and sometimes months if it somehow wasn't related...
Anyone found any more info on this??

Thanks, that's the one I was looking for. I now remember using it some years back and just forgot.
Years back when I was only programming Crestron, I always said that knowing all the "tools" you have at hand and how/where to use them makes you a better programmer. Nowadays that I don't program Crestron often I can see why.

I actually did this yesterday and it created a ton of SIMPL programming. I know I can strip it down to only what I need, but wow!

I was just hoping they had. I have a client that had an advent system that died. The security guy replaced it with 2 Elk systems. One for security the other for environmental. I get complaints every few months because of the integration. He wants it to work like three advent panel did, it just won't. The biggest reasons it won't, is because that Advent supported all 400 zones on one system and it was full keypads emulation.

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Where is it located?

I don't believe the Elk modules have changed in many years.? So, they don't support full keypad emulation.? That being said, I have always found that they support the basic functions a homeowner needs to operate the alarm system including the ability to enter a pass code, buttons to arm/disarm the alarm system in home mode, away mode, vacation mode, bypassing zones, etc.? They also have a keypad module that allows the user to "press" one of the function keys programmed on the real keypad.

I don't believe you could ever get into the programming menus through what Elk offers but I believe basic operation for a homeowner is supported.

If the house hasn't been wired for any keypads then I would just install one next to the alarm panel itself for programming and the few functions a homeowner might want beyond what the modules support.

I have one keypad in my own home and never use it.? On each CLW keypad next to a door the bottom button is an "Exit" button.? It shuts down everything in the home, enables energy saving functions, and arms the alarm system.? When we come home, typically entering the house through the garage, we issue a voice command to an Alexa speaker in the garage "I'm home XXXX" where XXXX is a pass code.? That triggers an Alexa routine that triggers the Crestron system to cancel all the energy saving functions that were initiated by the Exit button and disarms the alarm.?? At night, it also turns on pathway lights in the home.

I'm not a fan of using a geofence to arm/disarm an alarm system. It can work reasonably well if there is only one person living in a home but the more people the more problematic it becomes.? All it takes is one person to leave the phone at home because they forgot to charge it and the system falls apart.

While having the ability to arm/disarm the alarm system through a touch panel is a necessity, a combination of Alexa and a keypad is much easier for day to day operation.? Making the user speak a pass code as part of an Alexa routine to disarm the alarm provides reasonable security and since the Alexa smart speakers will be under a homeowners Amazon account, they can easily change it themselves.

We also have an Alexa routine triggered by "goodbye" that does the same thing as the Exit button but we find ourselves using the button much more than the voice command.

My $.02

Jay

I removed a unit from a resi project.? It works.

If anyone can use it - make me a reasonable offer and I'll send it your way...

Jay,
Has the Elk protocol ever been expanded for keypad emulation?

My default go-to is the Honeywell Vista 128BTP. I don't know if there's integration with Alarm.com (except for monitoring)...
I'm sure others will have add'l suggestions

Well that sucks!

So what alarm brand is everyone using that is compatible with alarm.com and Simpl programable?

This house was not wired for alarm keypads and the homeowner was promised that he could use the Crestron TPs to arm and dissarm the alarm.

Of the top of my head I would probably use the press hold module, a toggle, 2 and's and a ramp. The hold would trigger the toggle and the 2 and's. One output of the toggle would go to one and, and the other to the other and. The outputs of the 2 and's would drive the ramp.