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Re: Or Symbol Faulty

 

If you're overloading your processor so much you have random, unpredictable issues with logic symbols, you should be considering a second processor.


Re: New to Crestron and MULTICAST #crestron #cp4

 
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As far as I know, the DM-NVX-series is the only Crestron device that uses multicast and IGMP snooping and the associated stuff that goes with that.? Since you are using an CrestronNVX director, you are almost certainly using DM-NVX-xxx equipment. So to answer your question, yes you need to enable IGMP snooping on all the switches that NVX is passing through.

Many switches are not compatible with NVX -- particularly if you are planning to run NVX between switches. In particular, you need to make sure your links between switches have enough bandwidth to handle all the NVX traffic summed together.? You might want to look at the following for the NVX requirements:



But if you are not using DM-NVX, you don't need to do IGMP snooping.? You can, but it is not a requirement.


Is it just me, or does every time Crestron gear gets an upgrade do they take away something usefull?

 

I have only been programming Crestron since 2 series yet it seems to me each time we go up a level we lose something fundamentally useful.

When we went from 2 Series to 3 series we lost the ruggedness of the IR engine. In my industry I often control up to 100 televisions and for certain clients I sometimes need to change the channel on every one of those TV's in about 30 seconds. 2 series would allow you to send IR on every port simultaneously. 3 Series, well no.

When we went from 3 series to 4 series we lost the ruggedness of the TCP engine. I could make a connection to a TCP/IP server and then just leave it connected all day, everyday sending or receiving data happily. 4 series, well no.

Don't get me wrong I am not bagging the processor. And no way I would go back to a 2 series, I think I am just feeling a little sentimental this morning!?

Thoughts?

Ian.


New to Crestron and MULTICAST #crestron #cp4

 

Hi there
We are a hybrid user and I'm wondering how do I get MULTICASTING to work on our network. I have designed one vlan for all of the crestron devices so they can be segmented away from the network.

Our setup involves a LUXUL switch in 5 classrooms trunked to 5 different network switches (all Juniper) These junipers then connect via fiber to our ARUBA8325 cores that has a ARUBA6330M attached that hosts the CrestronNVX director.
My question is how do I ensure that we do not experience LAG? Do I need to have igmp enabled on all of the switches? The edge juniper, the core, the aruba6330m? Our setup isnt complex I just need some guidance


Re: Or Symbol Faulty

 
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Lincoln I am throwing a whole lot at the processor from every angle, That is why I sometimes don't even say anything about some issues and fix and workaround.? Yeah doing this on 2 series was brutal (could only use compact flash card only) everything in one program,? 3 series and 4 series are good.? I am happy for the 4 series because was running out of room on 3 series right when the 4 series processor was released.? CPU load was off the charts, was overloading 3 series and they still handled it until the end when got too big.? Simpl windows is a spectacular program designed in a constantancy and I love it but nothing is flawless.


Thought this might be useful for those selling Samsung Frame TV's

 

As you can expect with all the articles I write I get a ton of emails on all kinds of wacky products.? Some are worthless, some amusing, some interesting, and a few actually useful.

While I have no use for this product I thought it sounded like something that could be nice for a dealer to use in a showroom to show off a Samsung Frame TV or for a customer that purchased a Frame TV.? It is simply a USB stick that can be plugged into a port on a TV or media player and contains 2 hours of video of 500 famous paintings.? At only $40 it is cheap compared to service offerings I've seen that provide pretty much the same thing.

Now, I haven't tried this and know nothing about the company selling it so it could be total junk.? I didn't think it interesting enough to personally want to dig deeper or warrant the effort of writing an article about the product. ? But, as I said, I thought some dealers could find it useful for both their showrooms and customers so I'm passing it on.



Thanks

Jay


Re: SW-VMK-WIN Computer Control

 

One thing I recall about someone recently having issues with VMK-WIN is that the CTRL, ALT, SHIFT, and WIN are all activated on the falling edge of a pulse and don't go low again until another key is pulsed (whereas some other modifier keys behave as a toggle on rising edge). It helps to define the corresponding FB signals in SIMPL to make sure they're programmed correctly & FB isn't staying latched high.?

I also generally recommend right clicking the executable, going to Properties, and using the Compatibility tab to set it to run as Win XP SP2 (which is what it was written for according to manual).


Re: Or Symbol Faulty

 

I would have to go redo the code and put it back,? and even I did wouldn't be the same test in a little tiny program.? I think contributor to this problem is size and amount of things going on.? Not too concerned about it because replacing with buffer works although don't like it.? If i get a chance I will try and do but jammed up now.


Re: Or Symbol Faulty

 

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I haven¡¯t seen it recently but the if you have a large enough program and are poorly managing memory symbols acting oddly can be a sign of memory exhaustion or a memory leak ¨C it¡¯s much harder to do on the 3 series than it was the 2 series and the 4 series than it was the 3 series but if you¡¯re just throwing things at the processor it can add up (early lesson learned on the 2-series: Cowrker had declared all of his strings in S+ as 65535¡­ If that was the only thing in the program it was fine, or if you had one of the PRO2s with extended RAM is was usually fine but if you put it with other logic it would start out fine then things would randomly start falling over.

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Once we realized that that¡¯s what was going on it was a pretty easy fix but it wasn¡¯t obvious at first.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Gregory Oldacre
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 2:09 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [crestron] Or Symbol Faulty

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No just one signal feeding touchpanel fb


Re: Or Symbol Faulty

 

I suggest to break the problem into in a very simple example and post that.? No need to upload the entire code.

I have never seen an issue with the OR gate.? But I have seen issues with a SIMPL+ module wrapped in a SIMPL module not driving external signals properly.? So much so that I always buffer outputs on a SIMPL+ module before sending them out of the SIMPL module.

If you are driving a network touchpanel, I have seen issue with signals getting dropped on congested networks.


Re: Or Symbol Faulty

 

Can't upload any of this code, but I can assure you it broke, I have pointed out issues to Crestron before about things like this, and some they have fixed and some not most recently being a big issue with dynamic icons and data text randomly disappearing.?Was getting that same type of "it's your code" attitude until I made a video of the whole thing and few days had a special firmware to fix. FYI the video was great and will always use this technique in the future because it cuts through and the nonsense.? I had touchpanel in view, with debugger running showing no activity at all during the time when these icons and text were disappearing.? Video saved a lot of time before that there was a lot of going back and forth, check this check that, maybe its this maybe its that.? ?I am not faulting Crestron support agents because most times code is the issue so I get it but when a complaint comes from certain people ...


Re: Or Symbol Faulty

 

Just to be clear though this is not a common problem though but it exists,? I still use or all over no idea why these chosen ones don't work


Re: Or Symbol Faulty

 

Yeah, it's REALLY hard to believe that something as basic as the OR symbol would be broken.? It would be incredibly embarrassing if it were...

Geoff

On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 2:30 PM Scott Pidzarko <scott.pidzarko@...> wrote:

If you can, upload the program or a minimum viable reproduction of the issue. I'm positive there's something else going on. At risk of sounding a bit like a prick - the OR symbol is the oldest, simplest one out there and I cannot imagine the issue is actually the symbol.


Re: Or Symbol Faulty

 

If you can, upload the program or a minimum viable reproduction of the issue. I'm positive there's something else going on. At risk of sounding a bit like a prick - the OR symbol is the oldest, simplest one out there and I cannot imagine the issue is actually the symbol.


SW-VMK-WIN Computer Control

 

Has anyone noticed this program on the computer messing up the keyboard?? It seems to work good but the same day I installed it on my computer when I was messing around with it keyboard would ctrl-c copy and all kinds of keys started not working right and doing other things on the keyboard.? I end tasked the vmk-win software running on my computer and it all went away.? ?Has anyone experienced this?? Also what has been the best method for controlling computer.? I have used ir which works but the ir on play on plays on every other press using media center driver now which I had issues with back in the day and thought was good now.? RC toggle bit codes? solution?


Re: Or Symbol Faulty

 

No just one signal feeding touchpanel fb


Re: Or Symbol Faulty

 

Are you jamming the output with something else?? Is the output connected to the input of a module that is jamming it with something else?


On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 2:05 PM Gregory Oldacre <grego@...> wrote:
Or gate seems pretty simple to me,? I have bunch of signals going into or gate and if any of them go high then output goes high.? that is not happening


Re: Or Symbol Faulty

 
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Or gate seems pretty simple to me,? I have bunch of signals going into or gate and if any of them go high then output goes high.? that is not happening.??

This problem was happening way before these versions

? ? ? ? Crestron Database..................:? 206.05.004.00??
? ? ? ? Device Database....................:? 200.90.002.00?
? ? ? ? SIMPL Windows......................:? 4.1700.03.01?
? ? ? ? SIMPL Windows Library..............:? 508? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? SIMPL+ Cross Compiler..............:? 1.3? ? ? ?
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Re: Or Symbol Faulty

 

I have had or's and they a not work for me once. In the logic, it is normal signals and one of them was high but yet or logic produced no high signal on the output when I replaced it with a buffer (which I thought was terrible to do but was my quick fix for issue) it worked fine.? I have also had Simpl break down on me many many years ago I had to remove logic to get going again, I think the file was too big back then.? Don't think trans gate won't work in these cases because of the application.


Re: Or Symbol Faulty

 

On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 08:01 AM, Dave H - Crestron TS wrote:
p compile files in \SPlsWork\ are generated fresh, whereas F12 may use previous temp files for quicker compilation
Recompile did not fix this problem although it has fixed other problem for me in the past