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Re: Skipping Program Slots

 

On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 08:16 AM, @johnmax wrote:
"Bypass auto stop/start of dependent programs" handles this automatically

Ideally, yes, the on-site technician knows to use those settings in ?if needed (I almost always keep it checked along with Send SIG).

Personally, I wouldn't avoid best practices taught to me because of it though...I wouldn't trust every tech to be aware of those options during deployment or service calls.
Re: Skipping Program Slots

 

On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 02:31 PM, Dave H - Crestron TS wrote:
Due to slot hierarchy (ex. loading to slot 4 may progreset slots 5-10, loading to slot 8 may progreset slots 9-10, etc.) I've always been told it's generally advised to place things like Security, Lighting, HVAC in Slots 1/2/3/etc. and less critical subsystems like AV in lower slots.
Dave I thought the checkbox in Toolbox transfer window "Bypass auto stop/start of dependent programs" handles this automatically?
Re: Pulse-Eight (Zektor) ProAudio 16

 

We have had more than half of these fail over the years.? I would avoid using this product, it will burn you later.?
Re: Or Symbol Faulty

 

As others have stated, crestron logic symbols simply work.
Check all driving logic!

It's easy to get caught out if you are using the or to sum a bunch of pulsed signals and just one signal gets maintained hi. If you are expecting a pulse output from the or make sure all inputs go through a one shot of some sort, mos, wpulse etc.

If your driving signals are maintained and the or is not behaving as expected then you may need to re-think your logic.
Re: Or Symbol Faulty

 

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+1 for Lindsay.

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Many many ORs all working as expected for me – from the CNMS(X) [though TBH it’s been a long time for those] through the 4-series (this morning) and never seen one not doing what it was supposed to. (About 12 years ago I had an odd case with the NOT not working in a particular corner case in particular circumstances on early(er) PRO2 firmware but…

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Very curious about the circumstances/logic flow where you’re seeing issues.

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An OR and a BUFFER (assuming the outputs of the buffer have the same signal name) should not be behaving anywhere near the same – if you’re finding that a BUFFER with jammed outputs yields the behavior you expect/need for an application an TRANS or NTRANS (negated) might be a better option than either an OR or a BUFFER

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of l_codd
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2021 12:56 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [crestron] Or Symbol Faulty

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What is the fault?
It is more likely the logic that is feeding the OR. Is one signal Hi when you expect to see a Hi from a different signal?
The logic engine is the most robust piece of Crestron's software and has been around for nearly 40 years. Not to say that there might be a fault somewhere, but please explain. What Device Database, what controller, what firmware?

Lindsay

Re: Debugger and 4-series

 

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?However, I’ve seen some ?disconnects much faster than 20 minutes?“

Yep, same here.

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Cheers, Thorsten

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Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> Im Auftrag von jbasen
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 12. August 2021 03:59
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Betreff: Re: [crestron] Debugger and 4-series

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Thanks.? Good to know.

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However, I’ve seen some ?disconnects much faster than 20 minutes?

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Jay

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On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 7:49 PM MSTC <kol.mstc@...> wrote:

There is an automatic disconnect after 20 minutes.? I saw a console command to adjust the time out but I can’t remember it right now.? I think setting it to 0 would make it never disco.

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I haven’t personally noticed it being slower but I have run into problems with the debugger losing its connection with the control system

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Jay

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On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 6:38 PM ckangis <chris@...> wrote:

Is it just the site I'm working with or is Debugger noticeably slower/More sluggish (Iknow, I know...) with 4-series. I'm running a CP4 with v2.6 FW

Re: OT: IR Controlled Window AC or Mini-Split AC or Mini-Split Heat Pump

 

Hi Jay,?

I make use of interface devices from Intensis which offer device specific modules and allow AC control over Wifi.?

For the larger projects with VRF systems, I opt for CoolMaster

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Re: Or Symbol Faulty

 

What is the fault?
It is more likely the logic that is feeding the OR. Is one signal Hi when you expect to see a Hi from a different signal?
The logic engine is the most robust piece of Crestron's software and has been around for nearly 40 years. Not to say that there might be a fault somewhere, but please explain. What Device Database, what controller, what firmware?

Lindsay
Or Symbol Faulty

 

So tired of faulty "Or" symbols having to replace with buffers!!
Re: Debugger and 4-series

 

On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 08:49 PM, MSTC wrote:

There is an automatic disconnect after 20 minutes.? I saw a console command to adjust the time out but I can’t remember it right now.? I think setting it to 0 would make it never disco.

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I haven’t personally noticed it being slower but I have run into problems with the debugger losing its connection with the control system


The console command you are looking for is:

SETLogoffidletime 0


Haven't tried it with SIMPL debugger yet.? However, a few days ago, I was ssh into a CP4 all day (no Crestron software involve) and had no disconnects.? Before I issued the above command via an SSH connection, the CP4 was constantly disconnecting.

YMMV,
Steve
Re: Debugger and 4-series

 

I just noticed that the header for this topic mentions 4-Series, so this might not apply exactly.

I had this “debugger time out” concern when working with my CP3 on my test bench. TB pointed me to this area to make the adjustment:

Open Toolbox, then Device Discovery, connect to the processor, select the FUNCTIONS button, select Authentication, then select Authentication Options. There is a box on that page to specify the “Default User Idle Time”; set as desired or select NO IDLE LIMIT (my choice).

Please advise if this helps or applies to the ?4 series ,as I have not used one of those so far.
Re: Debugger and 4-series

 


Thanks.? Good to know.

However, I’ve seen some ?disconnects much faster than 20 minutes?

Jay

On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 7:49 PM MSTC <kol.mstc@...> wrote:

There is an automatic disconnect after 20 minutes.? I saw a console command to adjust the time out but I can’t remember it right now.? I think setting it to 0 would make it never disco.

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I haven’t personally noticed it being slower but I have run into problems with the debugger losing its connection with the control system

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Jay

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On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 6:38 PM ckangis <chris@...> wrote:

Is it just the site I'm working with or is Debugger noticeably slower/More sluggish (Iknow, I know...) with 4-series. I'm running a CP4 with v2.6 FW

Re: Debugger and 4-series

 

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There is an automatic disconnect after 20 minutes.? I saw a console command to adjust the time out but I can’t remember it right now.? I think setting it to 0 would make it never disco.

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I haven’t personally noticed it being slower but I have run into problems with the debugger losing its connection with the control system

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Jay

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On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 6:38 PM ckangis <chris@...> wrote:

Is it just the site I'm working with or is Debugger noticeably slower/More sluggish (Iknow, I know...) with 4-series. I'm running a CP4 with v2.6 FW

Re: Debugger and 4-series

 

I haven’t personally noticed it being slower but I have run into problems with the debugger losing its connection with the control system

Jay

On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 6:38 PM ckangis <chris@...> wrote:
Is it just the site I'm working with or is Debugger noticeably slower/More sluggish (Iknow, I know...) with 4-series. I'm running a CP4 with v2.6 FW

Debugger and 4-series

 

Is it just the site I'm working with or is Debugger noticeably slower/More sluggish (Iknow, I know...) with 4-series. I'm running a CP4 with v2.6 FW
Re: OT: IR Controlled Window AC or Mini-Split AC or Mini-Split Heat Pump

 

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Thanks Jon

On 8/11/2021 5:42 PM, j5races wrote:

My unit is this:?DIY-24-HP-C-230B

Re: OT: IR Controlled Window AC or Mini-Split AC or Mini-Split Heat Pump

 

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Thanks Martin

On 8/11/2021 5:32 PM, Martin Szmulewicz via groups.io wrote:

Hi Jay.
I have at home two split inverters. Hisense HISI53WCO and Electra TRDI35.
Both IR, both remotes work differently.
The Hisense sends all the info on each change (mode, sp, fan, etc), but the power is a sepparate toggle command without any other setting as information on it.
While the Electra has an off command and any other setting sent is also an implicit on command.
Most of the ACs/remotes in these countries work one of these ways. Any other type of behaviour, while possible, is not usual.
Hope this helps.

Cheers.

Re: OT: IR Controlled Window AC or Mini-Split AC or Mini-Split Heat Pump

 

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Thanks.? I don't have access to an actual remote control but that is good to know.

Jay

On 8/11/2021 5:17 PM, zac.sparrow@... wrote:

Best way to find out what wireless technology is used is to check the FCC ID on FCC.org.

Re: OT: IR Controlled Window AC or Mini-Split AC or Mini-Split Heat Pump

 

My unit is this:?DIY-24-HP-C-230B
Re: OT: IR Controlled Window AC or Mini-Split AC or Mini-Split Heat Pump

 

Hi Jay.
I have at home two split inverters. Hisense HISI53WCO and Electra TRDI35.
Both IR, both remotes work differently.
The Hisense sends all the info on each change (mode, sp, fan, etc), but the power is a sepparate toggle command without any other setting as information on it.
While the Electra has an off command and any other setting sent is also an implicit on command.
Most of the ACs/remotes in these countries work one of these ways. Any other type of behaviour, while possible, is not usual.
Hope this helps.

Cheers.
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