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Re: Certified Drivers
I was just getting tired of every discussion about a problem turning into a rant on how much Crestron sucks.
It definitely does some of the time, and they like to make our jobs difficult by enticing us with updates. However, they probably support their products better than most manufacturers in this industry, without requiring a service contract. I agree that there's a major difference between 2 series and 3 or 4 series. With the most installs, new ones included, when a system has been debugged and running for a while, it is very stable. Also, in the majority of our residential installations, devices aren't being added regularly. Services being added to a streaming device (Roku, Apple TV, Autonomic, Sonos, etc.) don't require any update to the system. In our case at least, systems that have been installed and running for several months are typically rock solid for many years. That being said, I do turn off all of the Crestron cloud services, auto updates, etc. When an update does happen, I don't install the latest database or firmware unless it has been released for at least 3 months. The only exception to this is when we require the features included in the update (NVX AES67 audio for example). Regarding this topic, I have yet to install anything that required a CCD for serial or IP communication, so maybe I am just lucky. I do have some systems with IR and CEC CCDs and haven't had a single problem with them. |
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Re: Certified Drivers
On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 09:42 AM, Brian Matson wrote:
That means not using CCDs, and don't update a working system.You can't avoid this, and they're pushing certified drivers on all of their other platforms. Also, a lot has changed since the 90's, you can't compare the 2-series platform to 3-series and 4-series issues. There's more requirements to have secured devices, secure communication, and IP control is becoming more prevalent (and in some cases, is the only option). Also, when the Sonos debacle happened recently, our Crestron Home systems still worked or at least were the first to get a resolution.It's possible.. However, in some cases with firmware, you need to upgrade for many different reasons. Simply avoiding it in many scenarios is also not an option. Database versions require firmware updates, bugs with certain features, etc... And while you're upgrading firmware, you have the potential to introduce new bugs that require future firmware updates. In practice, there are a lot of considerations. ? -- ?
Crestron Service Provider - TBD Enterprises Inc.
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Re: Certified Drivers
¿ªÔÆÌåÓý?For me, the key is using what has worked forever. ? Well, sounds good, but I think that?s not possible anymore today. I?m not so long in the integration business by now, but I think the times where systems have been installed once and then run untouched for the next couple of years are gone. In the residential market new music or other software/cloud based services are popping up every day, in the commercial market it?s similar with video conferencing services. A couple of years ago, you connected a vc system via RS232, do the programming and then it would run forever. ? I think that?s sucking up a lot of Crestron?s resources: keeping up with all these new software based services (which often don?t care much about being integrated into another system). ? Cheers, Thorsten ? Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> Im Auftrag von Brian Matson ? That's kind of getting off of the real topic a bit.? Although, we all like to rant against Crestron sometimes. |
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Studio - Scrollbar appearance
Hello
I want to change the look of Scrollbar in Black Glass 2.0 theme. On Dynamic Button List it's black and hardly visible.? Could anyone tell me if its possible and in which section of Crestron Studio I should look? I looked in ControlStyles and ImageMaps but couldn't find it. Regards |
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Re: Certified Drivers
That's kind of getting off of the real topic a bit.? Although, we all like to rant against Crestron sometimes.
In reality, most of us that have been in the industry since the '90s have many Crestron systems that have been running 24/7 since the '90s. They rarely have a hiccup, and if they do, it's quite often just a power supply or something simple. Typically, a well designed and programmed system is solid after the initial debug phase is complete. Crestron will still service and support a Pro2 that was installed over 20 years ago.? They'll even still try to help with a CNMSX-Pro (1-series) processor. Ask Lutron to support one of their older system iterations?! Lately, it's Crestron adding something via firmware or DB updates that breaks other things.? That is where we loose the most billable time. They really need to slow the update release schedule and alpha/beta test things properly! For me, the key is using what has worked forever. That means not using CCDs, and don't update a working system. Also, if it has RS-232, use that first over IP control. I agree with using an SIO.? It doesn't fail. If it doesn't need feedback and has a hardwired IR connection, use it before IP control. If at all possible, avoid the "Cloud" like the plague.? Relying on the Internet for control is even worse than the local network. However, it is quite interesting that Crestron Home uses those same CCDs. I've never had a Crestron Home system have a driver failure that wasn't related to the device it was controlling. Also, when the Sonos debacle happened recently, our Crestron Home systems still worked or at least were the first to get a resolution. Can we unlock prog slot 0 and reverse engineer?? Probably not! |
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Re: Certified Drivers
It¡¯s threads like this that make me wonder how many tradesmen Crestron has sunk because of their horrific software architecture and implementation. All the while their lawyers and marketing team hold a knife at everyone¡¯s ?throat, demanding a brand image that is impossible to maintain due to their own unusable software. ?
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Alexa - A few things share the name...
i was playing around with the voice modules
did a remove/discover, now all my lights won't work due to 'a few things share...' put back old code, remove/discover - same error generic things seem to be OK, just the lights are messed up my device list shows unique names, no duplicates |
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Re: Where to Sell Crestron Gear?
Yeah, offering things here (and obviously taking any follow-ups offline) and selling them on eBay are pretty much the best 2 options.? You might get more money for some things on ebay since most people here can presumably buy stuff at dealer cost, but the eBay buyers will rarely pay close to MSRP and you have to factor in the eBay fees. Geoff On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 12:04 AM scates98 <ccates@...> wrote:
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Switchable Privacy Glass - Works well with Crestron
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýIn Europe we have Saint-Gobain Priva-Lite: Easy to control with a relay. Jarle
On 26.02.2021 04:43, paul lipp wrote:
Snap glass works great and is easily controlled.? |
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Where to Sell Crestron Gear?
Hey Everyone, ? I have some newish and gently used Crestron gear that I¡¯m looking to sell.? Just wondering where to list them?? Is Ebay still the place to list this hardware?? Anyone here interested? ? 1 x - 6 Room + 2 Audio System (New & never used, but not in original box) 1 x - Network Stream Player (New & never used, in box) 1 x - Extended Range RF Wireless Gateway (used, gently) 1 x - 3-Series Control System w/infiNET EX & ER Wireless Gateway (used, no box, no antenna) 1 x - Handheld Touch Screen Remote, Black (used, no box) ? Shoot me a message if you¡¯re interested.? Looking forward to suggestions on where I can sell this.? ? TIA, ? Chris Cates ? Cheers, ? Chris Cates
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Re: Adagio internal power supply
If no one responds tonight I will get you the info in the morning. My colleague just had to replace the power supplies in our owners Adagios. He has two and both power supplies had to be replaced. I will ask my colleague tomorrow for the information and who we bought the power supplies from.?
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Re: Adagio internal power supply
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Here is the power supply used in the PWS-75 and AV-2s and Pro-2s. It might be the same:
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Re: Switchable Privacy Glass - Works well with Crestron
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On Feb 24, 2021, at 7:26 PM, Lincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@...> wrote:
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Re: Switchable Privacy Glass - Works well with Crestron
Thanks.? A couple of points. I look at smart glass as a luxury product. So I really don¡¯t see the power usage as a barrier to purchase by the intended audience. In addition, power consumption is going to be based on use.? What I mean by that is if smart glass is going to be used in a window where you are primarily interested in privacy and just want a quick view outdoors every once in a while (maybe a bathroom window) then power consumption will be very low.? Of corse if the opposite is true then consumption will be much higher Thanks? Jay On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 7:25 PM <spannertech@...> wrote: Really interesting article thanks for sharing Jay.? Too bad they use so much energy to make them transparent.... |
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Re: IR Pulsing for a certain time & NVRAM
#simplwindows
#crestron
#programming
#lighting
#lutron
Spacer has scene 1-5, brighter, dimmer, on and off. ?IR is one way control with no feedback. ?What you are describing is not possible nor reliable with IR.
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IR Pulsing for a certain time & NVRAM
#simplwindows
#crestron
#programming
#lighting
#lutron
Hello,
? ? How can a IR controlled?Lutron Spacer light switch be pulsed for a certain length of time and stored? The Lutron Spacer module has brightness, dim, Off/On. What I would like to have is 10 presets labeled 10% - 100% which is the brightness level going up the scale and vice versa. What I can't figure out is: 1) If the lights are at 40% and I press 80%, the brightness goes up to 80%, store this value, and if I press 20%, the lights dim and store this value. I don't understand the NVRAM stuff. 2) I think it would be handy on the touch panel that if I press the 40% button that it stays illuminated until I press another percentage value 3) If I press brightness or dim, the percentage button goes off until I get to the next highest or lowest percentage. Thanks for your help and if you think that I'm out of my mind, I can take it. :) dsmithp233 |
Troy Garner
AVMaster