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Hey guys, I have a remote customer with an older system using several TPMC V12 in wall panels. ?One of them bit the dust. ?Path of least resistance here is to swap it out. ?I have a newish TPMC V12 tilt in stock in the graveyard. ?Are these totally different animals from the in walls or is it like the old 8X panels where they just snap in to a wall mount? ?I really would prefer to do a direct swap and collect a check and not reinvent the wheel on this old of a system. ?Help!


Re: Preference for Mini PC for "jump" box

 

Thorsten, giving a quick look, it might probably be quite the same thing tbh.
I didn't know that "remote access points" were out in the market, didn't know that solution existed.
Besides that, here in Latam not only Aruba products are not masive (and probably not easy to buy either, no local stock, etc), but also way more expensive than the MT boxes.
For me is not the same to have 10 or 20 $30 MT boxes around that have the same amount of Aruba's.

One thing i can differentiate is that i can use my boxes as routers where no network is present and give them internet with a cellphone.

And finally, my MT boxes are customizable to whatever i need.

Just one more note: i'm developing an upgrade that would allow any computer to act as this box also, so any tech with any notebook without having my box could connect to the vpn and be the gateway for me. This way i can gain direct access either pluging the box (permanently or momentarily), or run something (not sure yet if an app, a script, or what) on the person's computer that is onsite without having to run any of our programmers software on them and do teamviewer or alike.

But yes, they look more or less the same, and i didn't know they existed.

Cheers!


Re: Preference for Mini PC for "jump" box

 

These kind of devices are usually called "remote access points" and are available for quite some time now.

What distinguishes your solution from solutions like e.g. this one? =>?

(it?s not meant to be "know-all", i?m really curious)

Regards, Thorsten


Re: WiFi controlled 3-way dimmer, 600watts

 

I¡¯ve always found rakocontrols.com to have cost effective solutions for both wired and wireless lighting control. There is also a prewritten module for them.?

Regards, Gary.?


Re: Preference for Mini PC for "jump" box

 

@mike Slattery?
for video streaming you mean a couple of webcams so the programmer can see what's going on on the place? or what video do you stream?

To the rest, actually i've developed that solution and i'm comercializing it, at least here around to a couple of clients and other companies. Yet is a mouth to mouth solution for which i haven't done any website, brochure, etc.

Basically it is a device that has a wan port, which you connect to the same network that your device is connected to.
If that network has internet, then we're done. If not, you can give internet to the box with your own cellphone, creating an access point with a predefined ssid and pwd.
(it also has lan ports in case there is no router or dhcp server and create a network on the go).
As it creates an outbound connection (vpn client), nothing has to be set on the network. The only exception is where a strong firewall is in place that won't allow outbound vpn connections (L2TP/Ipsec).
I have a VPN server that handles all the connections and the tunneling.
Then you just connect ("dial"?) your computer to this vpn server with certain credentials. Those credentials are the ones that identifies to which client you get connected.
Afterwards, you just can ping/connect/telnet/toolbox/http/etc whichever device IP you want at your clients networks as if your computer was wired there.
The only thing i haven't tried yet is network discovery or so, i'm not sure about that. But if you know its ip or you can specify the ip range to query, then its done.
I can just open a web at 192.168.0.240 or connect toolbox to 192.168.10.50, or whatever service on whatever ip.


Cheers ;)

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Re: Preference for Mini PC for "jump" box

 

I've been following this as well.? I do a lot of followup and punch item remote work with all the integrators I work with, and I usually use TeamViewer (or the like) to connect to tech's computers onsite and work off their machine, but I'm interested in a solution like this that is not expensive.? The TeamViewer method requires their computer to have some of the software suite installed, and to transfer the files over and then load.? This seems better in some cases.

I'm familiar with Routers that have VPN built-in, but I'm not familiar with Microtik.? Is that what these are?? If so, how do you get past the client firewall to connect to the VPN on it?? Do these call out, or have a different connection method?? I'm assuming they use OpenVPN or something standard protocol-wise?

Which box are you using for this?? Will this also get on to a wifi hotspot and connect to the site switch, to allow for remote access to isolated networks not on the client network and without direct internet access.? This seems to be the most common for me, and tech has to plug into our AV switch, and then have his wifi on client guest wifi (or hotspot to phone) so their PC spans 2 networks in order for me to get into their PC remotely, and still be connected to the AV switch.? If this box can do that too, I'm sold, I'll buy a couple of them.

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Mussetter Programming Services
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Re: Macbook and Dropbox

 

I use Box sync within windows on parallels on two Mac computers without issue.


Re: Preference for Mini PC for "jump" box

 

Martin,

I've been wanting to put a Mikrotik on my corporate clients' network. If you do this, do you need IT to forward a port? Or do you have specific configuration on the Mikrotik that initiates a connection out?


Re: Preference for Mini PC for "jump" box

Mike Slattery
 

Since we went to a Mini IoT Pc with dual NIC and Video streaming, our large Distance Learning rooms went to only about 2-4 hours of setup time without the programmer leaving the office. This is due to going to only 1 network drop in the classroom and being able to see video sources in the room. We used to wait days for IT to get the drops configured on the correct VLAN and reserve IPs, and if the programmer went onsite this was very expensive to wait around for networks. Being able to see the video in the room makes a huge difference as well. The programmer is able to view devices and ensure they are working. Most of the time spent is on updating firmware on devices like Tesira and its mics.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of pearce.bruce
Sent: Sunday, 2 February, 2020 1:18 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [crestron] Preference for Mini PC for "jump" box

Hi All

I¡¯ve been following this conversation and I usually install a rack mounted pc in my residential systems however costs don¡¯t always allow this .
I am Interested In this mikrotik box . Is this a plug in box that I can use for a vpn ? That will bypass all router configuration.
What is the model as I can¡¯t find anything on their website


Regards

Bruce

On 2 Feb 2020, at 17:50, Martin Szmulewicz via Groups.Io <crestron.uruguay@...> wrote:

mikrotik box.


Re: Preference for Mini PC for "jump" box

 

If there are concerns about externals being able to connect to the network 24x7, it?s common practice that you have to request IT to open up the tunnel for a limited amount of time.
That can become quite cumbersome because some IT dep. want to have some amout (even days) of lead time for such a request, but better than nothing.
In addition, you can narrow down the vpn access to just the few box/subnets you need access to.

Am 02.02.2020 19:15:08 schrieb davedunaway1@... <davedunaway1@...>:

What response have y¡¯all received from corporate IT about setting up a personal vpn to their network? Sounds like a red flag for most


Re: Preference for Mini PC for "jump" box

pearce.bruce
 

Hi All

I¡¯ve been following this conversation and I usually install a rack mounted pc in my residential systems however costs don¡¯t always allow this .
I am Interested In this mikrotik box . Is this a plug in box that I can use for a vpn ? That will bypass all router configuration.
What is the model as I can¡¯t find anything on their website


Regards

Bruce

On 2 Feb 2020, at 17:50, Martin Szmulewicz via Groups.Io <crestron.uruguay@...> wrote:

mikrotik box.


Re: Macbook and Dropbox

 

I run Parallels with the files in folders on the Mac side (shared folders). I use GoodSync to do a one-way an auto sync to Dropbox. In this manner my colleagues and I can share through DropBox without the risk of accidentally changing / erasing a file on another machine. Also, keeping the files on the Mac side, rather than in the Windows drive, means that they are individually backed up by TimeMachine, rather than within a virtual drive. Make life so much easier in the event of drive corruption etc.


Re: Preference for Mini PC for "jump" box

 

I've done it on residential only.
On commercial only momentarily. One of the technicians/installers might have one of these boxes on his toolbox, so he just plugs it in when needed.


Re: Preference for Mini PC for "jump" box

 

What response have y¡¯all received from corporate IT about setting up a personal vpn to their network? Sounds like a red flag for most


Re: Preference for Mini PC for "jump" box

 

The vpn would allow me to connect to any device in the network as if my computer was wired to the same network switch.
I do not have to open any ports, set up any dynamic ip, etc. I have to change nothing on the clients network but plug in my mikrotik box.
If the question is why i need this? Well, remote upgrades with small changes, support and troubleshooting, etc.


Re: Macbook and Dropbox

 

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I have been using OneDrive (also wastefully) inside Parallels on a Mac for a few years now and it hasn¡¯t missed a beat. I started with Dropbox but encountered those compile issues to which Kyle refers, I think I also tried Google Drive which had similar issues before discovering that OneDrive doesn¡¯t¡­for me at least.

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From: <[email protected]> on behalf of "Kyle Goyer via Groups.Io" <Kyle.goyer@...>
Reply to: <[email protected]>
Date: Sunday, 2 February 2020 at 16:15
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [crestron] Macbook and Dropbox

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Steve,

I run fusion but I assume it¡¯s about the same as parallels. I¡¯ve experienced issues (usually permissions related) with accessing the Mac Dropbox in windows specifically when dealing with Simpl/VTPro/S#. You can access it fine in windows explorer but I would run into compiling issues and such. I never really dove deep into it and I¡¯ve just run Dropbox also inside the windows VM (wasteful I know) but once we¡¯re done with a project I move it to ¡®online only¡¯ in Dropbox so it frees up the HD space but the files are still easily accessible if needed again.?


Maybe parallels either doesn¡¯t have the issue or it¡¯s been addressed since I gave up and just put Dropbox in the VM.?


let me know if you have better luck.?


thanks!


Re: Macbook and Dropbox

 

Steve,

I run fusion but I assume it¡¯s about the same as parallels. I¡¯ve experienced issues (usually permissions related) with accessing the Mac Dropbox in windows specifically when dealing with Simpl/VTPro/S#. You can access it fine in windows explorer but I would run into compiling issues and such. I never really dove deep into it and I¡¯ve just run Dropbox also inside the windows VM (wasteful I know) but once we¡¯re done with a project I move it to ¡®online only¡¯ in Dropbox so it frees up the HD space but the files are still easily accessible if needed again.?


Maybe parallels either doesn¡¯t have the issue or it¡¯s been addressed since I gave up and just put Dropbox in the VM.?


let me know if you have better luck.?


thanks!


Re: Samsun UN82RU8000F Control

 

Try Samsung IP demo from application market.?
Tested on RU7400 series it works fine.


Re: DMPS-300-C CEC

Steven Hedges
 

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It was much simpler


On Feb 1, 2020, at 12:21 PM, Gary Rowland <gary@...> wrote:

Thank you all,
that worked like a charm. I¡¯m used to the 3 series DMPS units but the old one confused me somewhat.?


Re: DMPS-300-C CEC

 

Thank you all,
that worked like a charm. I¡¯m used to the 3 series DMPS units but the old one confused me somewhat.?