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Re: Lighting / Analog RAM / Presets

 

Another question about this...


If I have an Analog RAM with Store, Recall, and Select1 all set to "1" for constant store, can I route these same signals to another analog RAM (or several different ones) for the secondary ones to handle zone presets??



---In Crestron@..., <nick@...> wrote:

Thanks for the info.


Is this constantly storing ARAM even useful if I did do an init that set values at each program restart? I almost always so the init in all other programs. ?



---In crestron@..., <hvolmer@...> wrote:

Nothing should clear them. ??When the program runs for the first time, they may have seemingly random values - depending on the control systems. ?I think 3-series will default to 0.

Now, if that ARAM is modified or moved in the program, its values will get out of whack. ?Whenever you define an ARAM like this, it should stay put forever and only have things added after it.

If you *want* to clear them, you can put an init in the program with all the analogs set how you want, and fire it off. ?You can also hit them all individually in debugger.



On Nov 11, 2013, at 4:01 PM, <nick@...> wrote:

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Oh Ok. That makes sense.. What would clear those values out??



---In crestron@..., <hvolmer@...> wrote:

It keeps those analog values loaded over program restarts. ?The processor always store the value of a given analog, and at startup, recalls it as it's initial value. ?



On Nov 11, 2013, at 3:17 PM, nick@... wrote:

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Hi all,



I am looking at an older program that used a real early version of D3. Not sure how much of it was tech-modified.

The code has an ARAM at the top of the program with ALL lighting ins routed to itself (input=output) and the store, recall, and select1 values are all set to "1".?

What is the purpose of this? Is this just setting up the RAM space for these analog values for OTHER ARAMs in the program, which actually handle presets?

Processor was a PAC2.?
Re: DGE 2 + V15 + Core 3

 

?Saw it, never had that issue, though.? I have a DGE-2 with V-15 running Smartgraphics in my conference room where I've been playing with it and trying to get more used to the Smartgraphics and it seems to be working just fine.??


Of course, it's being fed from a DM switcher so I just set it to HDMI in VisionTools and left it so I'm not programatically changing it.?



---In crestron@..., <coolaiddrinker@...> wrote:

I don't know if this message got overlooked or not but can anyone help with this??



---In Crestron@..., <coolaiddrinker@...> wrote:

Hi Guys,

I have a video window drawn on a V15 utilizing Core 3 ?via DGE2. I can see that my DM Switcher is switching the video input to DGE-2 properly but no video is being shown. I have set the Video window propoerty to HDMI 1 input. During the debug, I noticed that if i changed the input on video window to something else and revert back, the image is shown but as soon as the window is redrawn, it disappears. Has anybody dealt with this issue?

Thanks for all the help in advance.

-D
Re: DGE 2 + V15 + Core 3

 

I don't know if this message got overlooked or not but can anyone help with this??



---In Crestron@..., <coolaiddrinker@...> wrote:

Hi Guys,

I have a video window drawn on a V15 utilizing Core 3 ?via DGE2. I can see that my DM Switcher is switching the video input to DGE-2 properly but no video is being shown. I have set the Video window propoerty to HDMI 1 input. During the debug, I noticed that if i changed the input on video window to something else and revert back, the image is shown but as soon as the window is redrawn, it disappears. Has anybody dealt with this issue?

Thanks for all the help in advance.

-D
control of Sony KDL TVs with CBX-H11 interface

 

I have an issue controlling some Sony TVs through a DM system. Most of the TVs are Sony KDL series (KDL-32R400A, KDL-40R400A and KDL-60R550A). Since these TVs do not have RS-232 inputs, the Sony CBX-H11 was provided with the TVs to control the TVs through the HDMI port. The CBX-H11 takes in HDMI and RS-232 and send out just HDMI to the TV with the 232 embedded somehow.
Control works most of the time, but occasionally the Sony TVs cannot be powered on from the control system (there are some Sharp TVs too and those work 100% of the time). I am aware that the TVs will not accept power on when in standby. I have sent the 'standby enable' command - \x8C\x00\x01\x02\x01\x90 - to all the TVs. However, the power on command still does not work consistently. The Sony protocol document states that the 'standby enable' command only needs to be sent once and then the power on command will always be enabled. Any thoughts on this?

Thank you,
Elizabeth
Re: OT: Digital Annotation Devices

 

Am I missing something with Crestron Annotation engines (i.e. DVPHD, DGE-2) or are they really this rinky dink in their feature sets? I mean, no "Undo." No ability to save output. Pretty much, just pen width, color, and clear all. It seems to me the Boeckler Pointmaker is way more feature rich for a way less money.

I am usually embarassed when i program these systems up and hand them over to the end user during training. Its feels like a long series of "Sorry, it cant do that."

::::::::::::
J Pride



On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Lincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@...> wrote:
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All of the "display only" annotation solutions I've seen (Including something from Smart, but I'm not sure of the specific part #) have actually been "touchscreen that talks to the PC via USB and the PC generates the annotated video output"

In other words the loop out of the display is more "convenience" than actual video output... this means, of course, that you can only annotate over the (typically "built-in" or "room") computer and not over "any arbitrary source" -- and you can only annotate when a user is logged in and the driver/interface software is actually running.

Depending on the application that may be of no consequence but it is a very important limitation to consider.

For "annotate over anything" AFAIK, the only solution is a "real" annotation processor and (a) touchscreen(s) -- the Extron Annotator and Crestron DVPHD(-GB) have both proven themselves.

"The cheap comes out expensive"

Lincoln

--
Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Commercial Market Director
Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Silver)
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
Crestron Services Provider



-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of Nick
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 6:04 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] OT: Digital Annotation Devices

Hi all,

I am looking what is out there for Digital Annotation units that have annotation processing built into a touchscreen. For example, the SMART SP500 series is 18-24" I think and you send a PC or video signal in and annotated signal comes out. The only other things I am familiar with are annotation processors which cost more since you need annotation processor AND the touchscreen.

Anything else out there? This would be hooked directly to a PC and not a roundtripped signal in/out of a switcher, but that could be possible.

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Re: Help to program API to code

[email protected]
 

?I don't see the attachment. Can you please post it to the documents folder located in the files portion of the group??Thanks.



---In crestron@..., <gvds_crestron@...> wrote:

Hello Mark,
?
Into the attachment [Mod: attachments aren't allowed on this list.? Either post a link to the file or post it in the files section in the appropriate folder] there is the doc i have from our customer,
This is all i have, and i need only a start.
Programming into Simple + is not a problem only the translation from XML or JSON?to code.
?
Thanks
?
Germt



Op donderdag 14 november 16:43 2013 schreef Mark Delzer het volgende:

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Not to discourage your attempt, but until VERY recently JSON and XML were not easily handled with Crestron. ?That said, they still aren't easy today unless you are versed with C# and have Microsoft Visual Studio 2008 Pro to develop within for use with SIMPL# libraries that can be called form SIMPL+. ?Whether you need to go down the road of SIMPL# will be determined by the device, the API, and what you need to control within the API. ?But with almost full certainty you will need to work within SIMPL+ to help make your life easier. ?I know this isn't helpful, but to kindly put it, you have not been thrown in the deep end. ?You've been hauled out to sea and thrown overboard at the Mariana Trench with cement shoes. ?To help us help you, please post what the device is and if the API is public a link to the APIs along with a set of goals for what you need to do and we can all be able to guide you a little bit more accurately. ?



Mark


On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 7:59 AM, Germt van de Sande wrote:


>?
>
>
>Hello,
>They ask me
to program a module for an Video system by using there API.
>I never had
work with an API before and a i ?was wandering how that is working.
>?
>There are 2
API they sent me,
>1??????????????????? JSON
>2??????????????????? XMLCan someone
help me starting to work with a API documents and tell me how to translate it
into code.
>Maybe it¡¯s
very simple but I don¡¯t see how to start with it and use it into crestron.
>Thanks
>Germt



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Re: Page Flip

[email protected]
 

?Why don't you have the source selection?initiate?the page flip and use the busy signal from the stepper to drive a "please wait" subpage on top of the displayed page?



---In Crestron@..., <seth.ferrin@...> wrote:

I want to add a 'please wait' page when a stepper happens. Then, flip it to a source page without user interaction. I have 5 sources. Crestron helped me with getting the one source to work using a one shot, but I couldn't get it to.work for the other 4 sources. Any ideas?
Re: CueServer // DMX // RGBW Whole Home Residential Solution

Andrew Yalowitz
 

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Pathway also makes a bunch of DIN rail DMX splitter products (I love the ETC stuff - I'm actually up at the factory now for training, but they are fairly pricy in this case). For outputting DMX, it's fairly easy to get a Crestron processor to output the DMX over Ethernet protocol called ArtNet, and there are tons of fairly reasonable ArtNet to DMX output nodes. I most recently had 16 DMX controlled LED track-lights hooked up to a PoE ArtNet node, tied in to D3Pro with some remote system logic. Worked great, fairly inexpensive (except for the LED track-lights¡­).

?

A

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From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of Tim F
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 8:40 AM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: Re: [Crestron] CueServer // DMX // RGBW Whole Home Residential Solution

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?

DMX is used in all theatrical lighting.? For concerts reality TV game shows, and professional sports arenas? where lights HAVE to respond NOW and in a way that is desired.? Up until now my assumption as to why DMX has not been used for whole house systems is that before RGB lights needed up down, or on off.? Now with 3, 4 even 5 DMX channels if you get RGBWA lights I can see DMX making huge progress in many other installations.? It is also a tried and true communication protocol that has been used for many many years.

DMX also runs in parallel so if one fixture goes out the rest of the lights still operate as desired.

I personally have run shows using 2 universes of DMX.? Each universe controlls channel 1-512, and I know of shows that have run 16 universes for the olympics.? Thats 8192 channels of control which could give you 2048 of your RGBW lights.? I would hope that would be enough for the house you are talking about.

Also there are many companies out there that can do multi universe DMX distrobution over normal networks. We have a local one here that makes some awesome stuff. pathwayconnectdotcom they even make boxes that interface Crestron with a DMX universe very seamlessly.

Hope this helps
TimF

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From: "jasonberk@..." <jasonberk@...>
To: Crestron@...
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 8:41 PM
Subject: [Crestron] CueServer // DMX // RGBW Whole Home Residential Solution

?

?

Coloronix is making some amazing downlights that are RGBW and have individual DMX decoders which provide super easy wiring and tremendous flexibility. ?We've been bench testing and they dim and control great via a cheapo dmx controller and do double duty for clean white and RGB.?

?

We are contemplating doing the whole home using 24v RGBW fixtures using the Cueserver and DMX controlled through Crestron Keypads. ?The wildcard here is DMX's reliability for ALL the lighting in the home.

?

My question is has anyone done a whole home or office using DMX? ?Would it be viable and responsive enough for press and hold dimming? ?Is there any lag from receiving commands from the processor? Do you split the signal often so if a fixture dies, it doesn't take down the whole daisy chain?

?

Any insight, advice or anecdotal experiences would be really appreciated.

?
Re: Small Form Factor Computers

 

We've used the Zotac Zbox a few times and they were pretty good:??



---In Crestron@..., <floyd1212@...> wrote:

What is everyone's favorite SFF computer to leave behind on a job for remote access?

There's always the option of a cheap laptop, but I'm curious if there is anything smaller and cheaper, that can run Toolbox and host a LogMeIn or TeamViewer session.? Hard-wired ethernet would be a plus.

TIA
Small Form Factor Computers

 

What is everyone's favorite SFF computer to leave behind on a job for remote access?

There's always the option of a cheap laptop, but I'm curious if there is anything smaller and cheaper, that can run Toolbox and host a LogMeIn or TeamViewer session.? Hard-wired ethernet would be a plus.

TIA
Re: Serial Control for Sony 4K panels

 

I've been using the Sony KDL-46HX729 to control a 4K, and it has been working pretty good.


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---In crestron@..., <ComeAlive@...> wrote:

Is there a module for these television to control via serial?
Re: Page Flip

[email protected]
 

Ah - I assumed that you already had pages.


Yes - make a sub-page for each source, and eliminate the other one-shot I mentioned.? If you take the inverted output of the one-shot you're using to show the "please wait" and use that to trigger the buffer, then the selected source page will appear as soon as the please wait message goes away.


This also assumes that you're flipping from something like a title page to a second page that hosts the "please wait" and source sub-pages.


? - Chip




---In Crestron@..., <seth.ferrin@...> wrote:

Yes. I was able to get the first source to work using the subpage feedback join. The subpage is my 'please wait' screen. Do I need to create a subpage for each source?
Re: CueServer // DMX // RGBW Whole Home Residential Solution

 

That's 128 or 170 individually controllable load groups, not necessarily indivudual loads. Each fixture is "dumb". Its one-way communication, and will responds to values at the assigned address.

If you want all your hall lights to respond together, assign them all to the same addresses.

If, however, you want a color changing chase down the hall, you'll need to address them separately.

Chris

On Nov 19, 2013 8:18 AM, "Lincoln King-Cliby" <lincoln@...> wrote:

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DMX is very reliable if treated with respect. It¡¯s been a staple in the theatrical world for at least the past decade and a half if not longer for stage and [increasingly frequently] house lighting control. I wouldn¡¯t use DMX for anything safety critical (e.g. Pyro) because there¡¯s not really any ECC but for lighting¡­ why not?

?

FWIW, the DMX protocol is RS485 at 203400 bps and operates by constantly repeating the levels of all 512 channels in the universe ¨C e.g. (break)(mark/start)(chan1)(chan2)(chane3)¡­(chan510)(chan511)(chan512)(break)(mark/start)¡­

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And again, remember, the roots are theatrical lighting where responsiveness is generally key ¨C so as long as the controller can keep up DMX as a protocol is plenty fast [I remember in high school doing [1][through][96][at][0][go]¡­ followed by [1][through][96][at][full][go] and the audible hum that was generated when 96 ¡°mostly loaded¡± 2kw dimmers fired up their [incandescent] loads. I¡¯m still surprised I didn¡¯t blow something up.

?

DMX is intended to be a straight-line double terminated bus (one terminator on each ¡°end¡±) and shouldn¡¯t be just arbitrarily split. If you do it, it may/will probably work ¨C at least for a while ¨C but there¡¯s a very good chance ¡°weird stuff¡± will start happening, particularly if the DMX decoders are on the less robust end. If you need to split you should really use a splitter designed for the task, like the ETC Unison Mosaic Opto-splitter [conveniently DIN mountable]

?

Remember that there are only 512 channels per DMX universe and a RGB fixture will generally take at a minimum 3-4 channels (depending on if ¡°White¡± is actually an independent color or just R+G+B ¨C so you¡¯ll only be able to get 128-170 channels per universe (4 or 3 channels per fixture, respectively), so depending on the size of the house you may need multiple universes and either a controller that supports multiple universes or multiple controllers.

?

Lincoln

--

Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS

Commercial Market Director

Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Silver)

V: 440.449.1100 x1107 F: 440-449-1106 I:

Crestron Services Provider

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From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of jasonberk@...
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 10:42 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] CueServer // DMX // RGBW Whole Home Residential Solution

?



Coloronix is making some amazing downlights that are RGBW and have individual DMX decoders which provide super easy wiring and tremendous flexibility. ?We've been bench testing and they dim and control great via a cheapo dmx controller and do double duty for clean white and RGB.?

?

We are contemplating doing the whole home using 24v RGBW fixtures using the Cueserver and DMX controlled through Crestron Keypads. ?The wildcard here is DMX's reliability for ALL the lighting in the home.

?

My question is has anyone done a whole home or office using DMX? ?Would it be viable and responsive enough for press and hold dimming? ?Is there any lag from receiving commands from the processor? Do you split the signal often so if a fixture dies, it doesn't take down the whole daisy chain?

?

Any insight, advice or anecdotal experiences would be really appreciated.
Re: CueServer // DMX // RGBW Whole Home Residential Solution

Tim F
 

DMX is used in all theatrical lighting.? For concerts reality TV game shows, and professional sports arenas? where lights HAVE to respond NOW and in a way that is desired.? Up until now my assumption as to why DMX has not been used for whole house systems is that before RGB lights needed up down, or on off.? Now with 3, 4 even 5 DMX channels if you get RGBWA lights I can see DMX making huge progress in many other installations.? It is also a tried and true communication protocol that has been used for many many years.

DMX also runs in parallel so if one fixture goes out the rest of the lights still operate as desired.

I personally have run shows using 2 universes of DMX.? Each universe controlls channel 1-512, and I know of shows that have run 16 universes for the olympics.? Thats 8192 channels of control which could give you 2048 of your RGBW lights.? I would hope that would be enough for the house you are talking about.

Also there are many companies out there that can do multi universe DMX distrobution over normal networks. We have a local one here that makes some awesome stuff. pathwayconnectdotcom they even make boxes that interface Crestron with a DMX universe very seamlessly.

Hope this helps
TimF




From: "jasonberk@..."
To: Crestron@...
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 8:41 PM
Subject: [Crestron] CueServer // DMX // RGBW Whole Home Residential Solution

?
Coloronix is making some amazing downlights that are RGBW and have individual DMX decoders which provide super easy wiring and tremendous flexibility. ?We've been bench testing and they dim and control great via a cheapo dmx controller and do double duty for clean white and RGB.?

We are contemplating doing the whole home using 24v RGBW fixtures using the Cueserver and DMX controlled through Crestron Keypads. ?The wildcard here is DMX's reliability for ALL the lighting in the home.

My question is has anyone done a whole home or office using DMX? ?Would it be viable and responsive enough for press and hold dimming? ?Is there any lag from receiving commands from the processor? Do you split the signal often so if a fixture dies, it doesn't take down the whole daisy chain?

Any insight, advice or anecdotal experiences would be really appreciated.
Re: CueServer // DMX // RGBW Whole Home Residential Solution

 

¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

DMX is very reliable if treated with respect. It¡¯s been a staple in the theatrical world for at least the past decade and a half if not longer for stage and [increasingly frequently] house lighting control. I wouldn¡¯t use DMX for anything safety critical (e.g. Pyro) because there¡¯s not really any ECC but for lighting¡­ why not?

?

FWIW, the DMX protocol is RS485 at 203400 bps and operates by constantly repeating the levels of all 512 channels in the universe ¨C e.g. (break)(mark/start)(chan1)(chan2)(chane3)¡­(chan510)(chan511)(chan512)(break)(mark/start)¡­

?

And again, remember, the roots are theatrical lighting where responsiveness is generally key ¨C so as long as the controller can keep up DMX as a protocol is plenty fast [I remember in high school doing [1][through][96][at][0][go]¡­ followed by [1][through][96][at][full][go] and the audible hum that was generated when 96 ¡°mostly loaded¡± 2kw dimmers fired up their [incandescent] loads. I¡¯m still surprised I didn¡¯t blow something up.

?

DMX is intended to be a straight-line double terminated bus (one terminator on each ¡°end¡±) and shouldn¡¯t be just arbitrarily split. If you do it, it may/will probably work ¨C at least for a while ¨C but there¡¯s a very good chance ¡°weird stuff¡± will start happening, particularly if the DMX decoders are on the less robust end. If you need to split you should really use a splitter designed for the task, like the ETC Unison Mosaic Opto-splitter [conveniently DIN mountable]

?

Remember that there are only 512 channels per DMX universe and a RGB fixture will generally take at a minimum 3-4 channels (depending on if ¡°White¡± is actually an independent color or just R+G+B ¨C so you¡¯ll only be able to get 128-170 channels per universe (4 or 3 channels per fixture, respectively), so depending on the size of the house you may need multiple universes and either a controller that supports multiple universes or multiple controllers.

?

Lincoln

--

Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS

Commercial Market Director

Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Silver)

V: 440.449.1100 x1107 F: 440-449-1106 I:

Crestron Services Provider

?

From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of jasonberk@...
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 10:42 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] CueServer // DMX // RGBW Whole Home Residential Solution

?



Coloronix is making some amazing downlights that are RGBW and have individual DMX decoders which provide super easy wiring and tremendous flexibility. ?We've been bench testing and they dim and control great via a cheapo dmx controller and do double duty for clean white and RGB.?

?

We are contemplating doing the whole home using 24v RGBW fixtures using the Cueserver and DMX controlled through Crestron Keypads. ?The wildcard here is DMX's reliability for ALL the lighting in the home.

?

My question is has anyone done a whole home or office using DMX? ?Would it be viable and responsive enough for press and hold dimming? ?Is there any lag from receiving commands from the processor? Do you split the signal often so if a fixture dies, it doesn't take down the whole daisy chain?

?

Any insight, advice or anecdotal experiences would be really appreciated.
Re: Page Flip

 

Yes. I was able to get the first source to work using the subpage feedback join. The subpage is my 'please wait' screen. Do I need to create a subpage for each source?
Re: Page Flip

[email protected]
 

You must already have something like an interlock being set to track which source page the user should be brought to, correct?


So if the one-shot is causing the "please wait" page to appear, you can take that same signal into the negative-edge trigger of *another* one shot, then take the output of that one-shot and trigger the enable line of a buffer with it.? The other inputs of the buffer would be fed with the outputs of your interlock, and the corresponding outputs of the buffer would be fed to joins on the touch panel symbol matching the joins you have assigned to each device's page.


? - Chip




---In Crestron@..., <seth.ferrin@...> wrote:

I want to add a 'please wait' page when a stepper happens. Then, flip it to a source page without user interaction. I have 5 sources. Crestron helped me with getting the one source to work using a one shot, but I couldn't get it to.work for the other 4 sources. Any ideas?
Re: Clw-dimxxx firmware upgrades

 

Have you try toolbox device manager

{Paf}

Le 19 nov. 2013 07:56, "Eric Williams" <ewilliams0305@...> a ¨¦crit :

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What's the best way to go about updating 100+ dimmers.?

I was looking at the script manager, but I couldn't get that working with "indirect addresses".?

Clw-dimxxx firmware upgrades

Eric Williams
 

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What's the best way to go about updating 100+ dimmers.?

I was looking at the script manager, but I couldn't get that working with "indirect addresses".?

Re: Set date/time on multiple processors

 

Great - thanks very much, I'll try that now!?



---In Crestron@..., <strandedyahoo@...> wrote:

In case you haven't figured this out you can do this via a toolbox script very easily.? The script would look like this:

[Set Clock]
Connect=tcp 192.168.1.98
SysClockSetTimeDate

This would set the processor's Time and Date to the current time and date of the compute running the script.? If you want to specify the time and date you can also like this:

To set the time and date to 07:10:35 on Nov 18, 2013

[Set Clock]
Connect=tcp 192.168.1.98
SysClockSetTimeDate 7,10,35,11,18,2013

HTH


On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 10:25 AM, <rlf79cm@...> wrote:
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The module will definitely be part of the next Simpl update - was hoping to be able to do them all from Toolbox in one hit now tho, as unfortunately cannot rollout an update to all 150 rooms very easily :o(?


Cheers



---In Crestron@..., <raphaelthiffault@...> wrote:

Sync them with a time server. There's a module in he crestron library.

{Paf}

Le 17 nov. 2013 10:58, <rlf79cm@...> a ¨¦crit :

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Afternoon guys,


Is there an easy way to set the clocks of 150+ 2-Series processors without having to connect to each one individually? ?All are LAN connected and all are in my Toolbox.

Thanks v much
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