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Re: What is this Console Notice??
I bet it got hit by a network scan of some sort - hopefully by the IT department.? On Tue, May 20, 2025 at 9:40 AM ckangis via <chris=[email protected]> wrote:
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Re: Rx to analog?
You should be able to do this in simpl without too much trouble. Use a stoa and grab the last 7 bytes of the string @0EThhhmmss. You will then send them to equ's then init's and add all the init's together.
Just keep in mind. Using a single time analog will limit you to just over 18 hours. The Denon protocol supports 999 hours. |
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Re: Rx to analog?
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýYou should be able to pull it out of the serial connection as part of a status message you poll with an oscillator you enable when the BD is the active source. It may take a couple iterations of serial substring to get the right section of the status. ? --?Steven ? ? From:
[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of dwiencek via groups.io <dwiencek@...>
Hey guys, Basic topic for most of you, but how would you suggest I get the time elapsed/remaining Rx from my Denon DN-500BD MKII Blu Ray into an analog join displaying time format? I don't know SIMPL+, and guess that's probably the likely route, but any help is greatly appreciated. ? Dan |
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Rx to analog?
Hey guys,
Basic topic for most of you, but how would you suggest I get the time elapsed/remaining Rx from my Denon DN-500BD MKII Blu Ray into an analog join displaying time format? I don't know SIMPL+, and guess that's probably the likely route, but any help is greatly appreciated.
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Dan |
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Re: Construct and Masters 2025
It's funny you mention that.? I built out one of our older interfaces in Construct recently as it was the easiest of our stable to do so.? The lack of the MPO (as you put it) forced me to have to build out the Autonomic onto the panel, and I painstakingly mimic'd the MPO almost to a tee.? Your comment about the scrolling list is interesting because the MMS modules do have a scrolling list.? It doesn't work AS WELL as the MPO obviously, but it does scroll.
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We had to do this becasue the client whom already had existing iPads vuilt in VTPro wanted the same interface on TST-1080's and would not accept another iPad for whatever reason.? It was a real challenge to figure out what Construct can and cant do, and the nuances to it currently.? I had a lot of gripes, but in the end it works and is almost a mirror image of the current interface.
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That said, I wouldn't want to try it on our newer interfaces that utilize fairly advanced functions and leveraging of VTP to perform.? Construct just isnt quite there yet for the advanced GUI stuff.
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On Tue, May 20, 2025 at 03:55 PM, ckangis wrote:
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Re: Construct and Masters 2025
If you would like Construct list objects to populate into single symbols allowing for easy `F4` signal copy/propagation (like existing VT PRO-E SRLs), you may want to change Construct User Settings. Specifically change the [Settings > User Interface Plugin > Build > Strategy for Widget List] item to a value of 'Classic'. I believe this setting value is initially set to 'Modern' which seems to break out list items into unique symbols within SIMPL Windows. This setting appears to be user centric, not project centric, so be careful when importing projects or *.chd files modified by others. |
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Re: Construct and Masters 2025
On Tue, May 20, 2025 at 03:46 PM, Gas Bandit wrote:
Also, I'm a little annoyed that I can't assign a page to a reserved join above 16000, for example, many of my VTPRO projects had specially designed error pages that would automatically show if the panel ever lost connection to the control processor, because VTPRO let me set the visibility join for the page to 18495.? Construct doesn't seem to let me do that.The VTP "..." join selector only goes up to 16000 (at least on the x70 series) though you can type higher #'s. I have also used 19495 for that purpose.
Are you saying that Construct does not have a reserved join for 'Control System Offline'?
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And while we're at it, how about a document detailing all the reserved joins - Haha!! |
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Re: Construct and Masters 2025
On Tue, May 20, 2025 at 03:35 PM, Lincoln King-Cliby wrote:
what the heck is a MPOHaha!! Its the Media Player Object!
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I would personally like to go back to the old ways for Music servers, like AudioRequest and old MMS, where we just built pages as needed and had code based on the device's protocol. More work initially for sure, but then you get total control over the UI.
The problem is that in the iOS era, we need a scrolling list that auto-populates with data coming from the server. I personally don't know how to do this. I've pinged Mike Jr at Autonomic about looking into them providing a way to do this, so maybe that's a possibility... |
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Re: Construct and Masters 2025
Also, I'm a little annoyed that I can't assign a page to a reserved join above 16000, for example, many of my VTPRO projects had specially designed error pages that would automatically show if the panel ever lost connection to the control processor, because VTPRO let me set the visibility join for the page to 18495.? Construct doesn't seem to let me do that. |
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Re: Construct and Masters 2025
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýCrestron announced with the introduction of the TST-1080 at Masters in 2023 that all panels going forward would be HTML5/Construct only so this isn¡¯t/shouldn¡¯t be new news ? Go already has a replacement: Crestron ONE (per the keynote ¡®now¡¯ free ¨C not sure if that¡¯s a recent change or has been this way for a while) ? TSRs will live out their life as-is (though, since IIRC the Crestron home experience is already HTML5 it seems like a relatively minimal effort to flip the switch to either have a HTML5-supporting or HTML5-exclusive firmware release (excuse my general lack of familiarity with the TSR310 as I have never seen one in real life, let alone deployed one on a project ¨C I just recently got my hands on a enough TSR-302s to replace my stable of MLX-3s at home ?) but the successor will be a HTML5 experience. ? The message is that VTPro feature parity is important and a work in progress, though what the heck is a MPO (Metropolitan Planning Organization? Medical Product Outsourcing?) ?and does it exist in VTP today? ? I¡¯m not running towards Construct with arms wide open but VTP has been the loved family member suffering from dementia going down hill for a while now and needs to be gently put down. (I don¡¯t even do that much UI work and when it¡¯s ¡°please don¡¯t crash again¡please don¡¯t crash again¡please don¡¯t¡ oh thank god it didn¡¯t crash, let me save before I make that mistake again¡±) ? Lincoln ? -- Lincoln King-Cliby Commercial Market Director ? ? ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
On Behalf Of ckangis
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2025 11:08 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [crestron] Construct and Masters 2025 ? Hi All, I heard that it was announced that all new panels(UIs?) will only support HTML5/Construct. This of course pushes the deprecation of VTPro closer, which I expect of course. I'm assuming that they'll have to keep it around to support the TSR and GO app, which kinda sux to have two platforms to support all the UI devices - Anyone heard plans for this issue?? Also, they're supposed to be getting the MPO ported over to Construct by the end of the year for us resi guys... Can anyone illuminate more details on what they've heard about this? ? My concerns: - Construct needs to be solid - This forum has detailed much of the suffering over the last 2.5+ years. How are things going? Any light that we would be able to deliver real, client systems with it now/anytime soon? - We need the MPO - Ideally we need to have Construct support all the UI types ? TIA! |
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Re: Construct and Masters 2025
Widget Lists and Contracts are still tedious and clunky to use in SIMPL compared to Smart Objects.? If I've got a subpage reference list in VTPRO, populating the signals for all items in it is quick and easy.? But with Construct, every item in the list gets its own symbol with collapsed joins on separate tabs, and suddenly populating a list of 52 signals goes from 4 clicks and 3 keystrokes to something in the order of 250 clicks and 500 keystrokes. |
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Re: Construct and Masters 2025
Agreed. ?to the OP's point we have real client systems in deployment with construct that are working well. ?Sure theres growing pains and it may be a bit easier for us commercial dealers right now as the missing objects arent as critical but it does work.
And surely the TSR will get a refresh sometime soon and be an HTML product. ?I bet by EoY Construct will be our default rather than VTPro. ?Especially once the programming plugin is released for production. ?
I know the roll out has been long and full of missing features but I appreciate this approach to allow us time to onboard it rather than dropping a new panel and the software for it at the same time and being thrown into the deep end. ? I also appreciate how responsive Ara and the development team have been with the EAP. ?We've got a voice into the thing rather that it just being dumped on us. |
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Re: What is this Console Notice??
MIB refers to SNMP, used for network monitoring - if you aren't doing anything with SNMP I wouldn't worry about it. On Sat, May 17, 2025 at 11:34?AM ckangis via <chris=[email protected]> wrote:
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Re: Construct and Masters 2025
I like Construct better than VTPro which feels ancient now. It improves with each new version. My recommendation would be to build a project from scratch rather than try importing a VTPro project. It helps you get familiar with the program and you get exactly the results that you want. |
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Re: Construct and Masters 2025
Yeah, that's kind of what I was thinking (Afraid of!) ...
It seems to me that if Crestron wants to move completely to HTML panels, then they should make a way to do ALL UIs in HTML...
TSR and iPhone are kinda important, at least for resi...oh wait!?!? We have HOME!! we're saved...:( |
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Re: Construct and Masters 2025
Hi Chris,
I don¡¯t think anyone could do more than speculate on the first two concerns - other than Construct is improving all the time and the MPO is on the list, but without a *firm* commitment to time.?
The one that I would put money on is that Construct will *never* support Adobe Air or the older (iSys?!) style projects. Ol |
Dean Detton