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Re: Anyone noticing slowdowns/failures in loading to 4-series processors lately?

 

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Thanks Lincoln.? Both the processor and my laptop are on the same wired network? (no WiFi involved) and same VLAN.?


Thanks again


Jay


On 1/17/2024 4:49 PM, Lincoln King-Cliby via groups.io wrote:

Are you on the same (wired) network?

I have seen over VPNs and WiFi any minor hiccup in the connection (wireless renegotiating authentication, etc.) that seemed transparent to most other things makes SSH connections angry, while from a support PC on the same VLAN I can go for days

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Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2024 4:29:00 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [crestron] Anyone noticing slowdowns/failures in loading to 4-series processors lately?
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Thanks Lincoln


As I said earlier in the thread, I have SETLOGOFFIDLETIME set to infinite.? Is there another console command that I'm not aware of that will fix this?


Thanks


Jay

On 1/17/2024 7:59 AM, Lincoln King-Cliby via groups.io wrote:

Part of it is by default the 4 series will automatically log you out after 20 minutes of "inactivity" but the?activity counter seems to only be reset on traffic from you to the processor -- the processor sending you things [such as just passively running Debugger to try to catch something]?doesn't count.


The good news is that if you are mindful of the security implications of doing so you can change or disable the timeout via a simple console command

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Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2024 9:32 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [crestron] Anyone noticing slowdowns/failures in loading to 4-series processors lately?
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It used to work for me.? In the past I have run debugger all night on a customer's system to catch a weird event that randomly took place.? However, I fully admit that I don't remember which processor series that was on.? The fact that debugger can only run for such short periods of time now, without dropping a connection to the processor, is just ridiculous and trivializes the complexity of the systems that are being built for customers. ?

My $.02

Jay

On 1/17/2024 7:21 AM, johnh via groups.io wrote:
On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 08:36 PM, jbasen wrote:

I have SETLOGOFFIDLETIME set to infinte on my CP4 so I can run SimplDebugger for extended periods of time to capture spurious issues when I'm debugging driver code.? Unfortunately, my experience is that it doesn't work.? I still get disconnects if I try to leave Simpldebugger running for any extended period of time.

I wish it would work as it has become near impossible to try and capture error situations that only occur at irregular time intervals.

??

Jay

Only once or twice in all these years I have been able to get debugger to run for more than a handful of hours. Probably was a 2-series. On these 3 and especially 4 series even with the idle time set to infinite and even watching only a small amount of signals, debugger will always find a way to just stop on its own. Its unreliable for anything after 15 mins or so.?

Re: Anyone noticing slowdowns/failures in loading to 4-series processors lately?

 

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Are you on the same (wired) network?

I have seen over VPNs and WiFi any minor hiccup in the connection (wireless renegotiating authentication, etc.) that seemed transparent to most other things makes SSH connections angry, while from a support PC on the same VLAN I can go for days

Get

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of jbasen <jay.m.basen@...>
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2024 4:29:00 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [crestron] Anyone noticing slowdowns/failures in loading to 4-series processors lately?
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Thanks Lincoln


As I said earlier in the thread, I have SETLOGOFFIDLETIME set to infinite.? Is there another console command that I'm not aware of that will fix this?


Thanks


Jay

On 1/17/2024 7:59 AM, Lincoln King-Cliby via groups.io wrote:

Part of it is by default the 4 series will automatically log you out after 20 minutes of "inactivity" but the?activity counter seems to only be reset on traffic from you to the processor -- the processor sending you things [such as just passively running Debugger to try to catch something]?doesn't count.


The good news is that if you are mindful of the security implications of doing so you can change or disable the timeout via a simple console command

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of jbasen <jay.m.basen@...>
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2024 9:32 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [crestron] Anyone noticing slowdowns/failures in loading to 4-series processors lately?
?

It used to work for me.? In the past I have run debugger all night on a customer's system to catch a weird event that randomly took place.? However, I fully admit that I don't remember which processor series that was on.? The fact that debugger can only run for such short periods of time now, without dropping a connection to the processor, is just ridiculous and trivializes the complexity of the systems that are being built for customers. ?

My $.02

Jay

On 1/17/2024 7:21 AM, johnh via groups.io wrote:
On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 08:36 PM, jbasen wrote:

I have SETLOGOFFIDLETIME set to infinte on my CP4 so I can run SimplDebugger for extended periods of time to capture spurious issues when I'm debugging driver code.? Unfortunately, my experience is that it doesn't work.? I still get disconnects if I try to leave Simpldebugger running for any extended period of time.

I wish it would work as it has become near impossible to try and capture error situations that only occur at irregular time intervals.

??

Jay

Only once or twice in all these years I have been able to get debugger to run for more than a handful of hours. Probably was a 2-series. On these 3 and especially 4 series even with the idle time set to infinite and even watching only a small amount of signals, debugger will always find a way to just stop on its own. Its unreliable for anything after 15 mins or so.?

Re: Question about Crestron Mobile panels....

 

Have you tried what MSTC suggested? That's really your best chance to figure this out.
Re: Anyone noticing slowdowns/failures in loading to 4-series processors lately?

 

Thanks Tony.

Since I don't gain gain any revenue from the articles I write, and little to no revenue from the drivers on my GitHub, it is hard to justify spending money on 3rd party tools.? From a technical tools standpoint, I just have to make due with with what I have unless there is a real reason to buy something extra.? Welcome to your annual income coming from social security ?

Thanks again

Jay

On 1/17/2024 8:00 AM, Tony Golden wrote:
FYI, there are a couple of third-party Debugger alternatives that I've heard work fairly well. I haven't personally used them, and can't remember the names at the moment, but maybe someone else will chime in. Searching the Group's messages for "debugger" might also turn up something.


--- On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 9:32 AM, Jay Basen wrote:

It used to work for me. In the past I have run debugger all night on a
customer's system to catch a weird event that randomly took place. However, I
fully admit that I don't remember which processor series that was on. The fact
that debugger can only run for such short periods of time now, without dropping
a connection to the processor, is just ridiculous and trivializes the
complexity of the systems that are being built for customers.

My $.02

Jay


On 1/17/2024 7:21 AM, johnh via groups.io wrote:

Jay
Only once or twice in all these years I have been able to get debugger to run
for more than a handful of hours. Probably was a 2-series. On these 3 and
especially 4 series even with the idle time set to infinite and even watching
only a small amount of signals, debugger will always find a way to just stop on
its own. Its unreliable for anything after 15 mins or so.


On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 08:36 PM, jbasen wrote:

I have SETLOGOFFIDLETIME set to infinte on my CP4 so I can run SimplDebugger
for extended periods of time to capture spurious issues when I'm debugging
driver code. Unfortunately, my experience is that it doesn't work. I still
get disconnects if I try to leave Simpldebugger running for any extended period
of time.
I wish it would work as it has become near impossible to try and capture error
situations that only occur at irregular time intervals.
Re: Anyone noticing slowdowns/failures in loading to 4-series processors lately?

 

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Thanks Lincoln


As I said earlier in the thread, I have SETLOGOFFIDLETIME set to infinite.? Is there another console command that I'm not aware of that will fix this?


Thanks


Jay

On 1/17/2024 7:59 AM, Lincoln King-Cliby via groups.io wrote:

Part of it is by default the 4 series will automatically log you out after 20 minutes of "inactivity" but the?activity counter seems to only be reset on traffic from you to the processor -- the processor sending you things [such as just passively running Debugger to try to catch something]?doesn't count.


The good news is that if you are mindful of the security implications of doing so you can change or disable the timeout via a simple console command

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of jbasen <jay.m.basen@...>
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2024 9:32 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [crestron] Anyone noticing slowdowns/failures in loading to 4-series processors lately?
?

It used to work for me.? In the past I have run debugger all night on a customer's system to catch a weird event that randomly took place.? However, I fully admit that I don't remember which processor series that was on.? The fact that debugger can only run for such short periods of time now, without dropping a connection to the processor, is just ridiculous and trivializes the complexity of the systems that are being built for customers. ?

My $.02

Jay

On 1/17/2024 7:21 AM, johnh via groups.io wrote:
On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 08:36 PM, jbasen wrote:

I have SETLOGOFFIDLETIME set to infinte on my CP4 so I can run SimplDebugger for extended periods of time to capture spurious issues when I'm debugging driver code.? Unfortunately, my experience is that it doesn't work.? I still get disconnects if I try to leave Simpldebugger running for any extended period of time.

I wish it would work as it has become near impossible to try and capture error situations that only occur at irregular time intervals.

??

Jay

Only once or twice in all these years I have been able to get debugger to run for more than a handful of hours. Probably was a 2-series. On these 3 and especially 4 series even with the idle time set to infinite and even watching only a small amount of signals, debugger will always find a way to just stop on its own. Its unreliable for anything after 15 mins or so.?

Re: Topics in Home Automation - New Article in Residential Tech Today

 

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Thanks Mark.

I copied the link from an email sent to my by RTI and it says one thing but points to the original article.

There is the correct link

Thanks again

Jay

On 1/17/2024 12:51 PM, mark kaye wrote:

part 2 links to part 1?

Re: Panasonic IP Cameras (AW-UE50KPJ)

 

I have a system that controls 4 of the AW-UE150 cameras that should be very similar.? I purchased the module from?https://www.tbdenterprises.ca/product/panasonic-hd-4k-integrated-camera-module/
Panasonic IP Cameras (AW-UE50KPJ)

 

I am using the Panasonic module from Crestron (PTZ Series) for this camera, and I am not having any luck. I never see the camera connected in FB and I currently just have the module loaded onto a PRO4 and nothing else. I changed the IP address for the control portion to match the IP address of my camera. Has anyone run into this or know of a better solution. I see the TX signals go out but nothing on the RX side.?

Thanks for any response.
Re: Topics in Home Automation - New Article in Residential Tech Today

 

part 2 links to part 1?
Re: Nest Thermostat control?

 

Apparently there’s a module now from Intersystems that somebody has already tested and it works. It’s available both for CH and SIMPL. Only problem is that the set up with google is really cumbersome as it takes something like 50 steps to have it up and running connected to the Crestron processor. I downloaded the module for CH but still haven’t taken the courage to test it :)
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Edited

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Re: Anyone noticing slowdowns/failures in loading to 4-series processors lately?

 

FYI, there are a couple of third-party Debugger alternatives that I've heard work fairly well. I haven't personally used them, and can't remember the names at the moment, but maybe someone else will chime in. Searching the Group's messages for "debugger" might also turn up something.

--- On Wednesday, January 17, 2024 at 9:32 AM, Jay Basen wrote:

It used to work for me. In the past I have run debugger all night on a
customer's system to catch a weird event that randomly took place. However, I
fully admit that I don't remember which processor series that was on. The fact
that debugger can only run for such short periods of time now, without dropping
a connection to the processor, is just ridiculous and trivializes the
complexity of the systems that are being built for customers.

My $.02

Jay


On 1/17/2024 7:21 AM, johnh via groups.io wrote:

Jay
Only once or twice in all these years I have been able to get debugger to run
for more than a handful of hours. Probably was a 2-series. On these 3 and
especially 4 series even with the idle time set to infinite and even watching
only a small amount of signals, debugger will always find a way to just stop on
its own. Its unreliable for anything after 15 mins or so.


On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 08:36 PM, jbasen wrote:

I have SETLOGOFFIDLETIME set to infinte on my CP4 so I can run SimplDebugger
for extended periods of time to capture spurious issues when I'm debugging
driver code. Unfortunately, my experience is that it doesn't work. I still
get disconnects if I try to leave Simpldebugger running for any extended period
of time.
I wish it would work as it has become near impossible to try and capture error
situations that only occur at irregular time intervals.
Re: Anyone noticing slowdowns/failures in loading to 4-series processors lately?

 

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Part of it is by default the 4 series will automatically log you out after 20 minutes of "inactivity" but the?activity counter seems to only be reset on traffic from you to the processor -- the processor sending you things [such as just passively running Debugger to try to catch something]?doesn't count.


The good news is that if you are mindful of the security implications of doing so you can change or disable the timeout via a simple console command

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of jbasen <jay.m.basen@...>
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2024 9:32 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [crestron] Anyone noticing slowdowns/failures in loading to 4-series processors lately?
?

It used to work for me.? In the past I have run debugger all night on a customer's system to catch a weird event that randomly took place.? However, I fully admit that I don't remember which processor series that was on.? The fact that debugger can only run for such short periods of time now, without dropping a connection to the processor, is just ridiculous and trivializes the complexity of the systems that are being built for customers. ?

My $.02

Jay

On 1/17/2024 7:21 AM, johnh via groups.io wrote:
On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 08:36 PM, jbasen wrote:

I have SETLOGOFFIDLETIME set to infinte on my CP4 so I can run SimplDebugger for extended periods of time to capture spurious issues when I'm debugging driver code.? Unfortunately, my experience is that it doesn't work.? I still get disconnects if I try to leave Simpldebugger running for any extended period of time.

I wish it would work as it has become near impossible to try and capture error situations that only occur at irregular time intervals.

??

Jay

Only once or twice in all these years I have been able to get debugger to run for more than a handful of hours. Probably was a 2-series. On these 3 and especially 4 series even with the idle time set to infinite and even watching only a small amount of signals, debugger will always find a way to just stop on its own. Its unreliable for anything after 15 mins or so.?

Re: Anyone noticing slowdowns/failures in loading to 4-series processors lately?

 

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It used to work for me.? In the past I have run debugger all night on a customer's system to catch a weird event that randomly took place.? However, I fully admit that I don't remember which processor series that was on.? The fact that debugger can only run for such short periods of time now, without dropping a connection to the processor, is just ridiculous and trivializes the complexity of the systems that are being built for customers. ?

My $.02

Jay

On 1/17/2024 7:21 AM, johnh via groups.io wrote:

On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 08:36 PM, jbasen wrote:

I have SETLOGOFFIDLETIME set to infinte on my CP4 so I can run SimplDebugger for extended periods of time to capture spurious issues when I'm debugging driver code.? Unfortunately, my experience is that it doesn't work.? I still get disconnects if I try to leave Simpldebugger running for any extended period of time.

I wish it would work as it has become near impossible to try and capture error situations that only occur at irregular time intervals.

?

Jay

Only once or twice in all these years I have been able to get debugger to run for more than a handful of hours. Probably was a 2-series. On these 3 and especially 4 series even with the idle time set to infinite and even watching only a small amount of signals, debugger will always find a way to just stop on its own. Its unreliable for anything after 15 mins or so.?

Re: Anyone noticing slowdowns/failures in loading to 4-series processors lately?

 

On Tue, Jan 16, 2024 at 08:36 PM, jbasen wrote:

I have SETLOGOFFIDLETIME set to infinte on my CP4 so I can run SimplDebugger for extended periods of time to capture spurious issues when I'm debugging driver code.? Unfortunately, my experience is that it doesn't work.? I still get disconnects if I try to leave Simpldebugger running for any extended period of time.

I wish it would work as it has become near impossible to try and capture error situations that only occur at irregular time intervals.

?

Jay

Only once or twice in all these years I have been able to get debugger to run for more than a handful of hours. Probably was a 2-series. On these 3 and especially 4 series even with the idle time set to infinite and even watching only a small amount of signals, debugger will always find a way to just stop on its own. Its unreliable for anything after 15 mins or so.?
Re: Controlling TiVo

 

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You do need to enable the API (I forget what ys labeled in the menu..."network remote" or something along those lines) on each device you want to control, including the minis.?

From there just point the module at the Mini's IP address and it should just work -- I've been controlling various generations of TiVo and Mini in my home system for over a decade and it is refreshingly reliable and consistent (I only wish the box could give feedback, e.g. what is currently being played/status, via it's protocol but alas...

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Tony Golden <mrgolden@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2024 10:05:05 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [crestron] Controlling TiVo
?
I've controlled several Tivo Minis on various projects using the ethernet
module.? However, the technicians always took care of configuring the boxes.? I
suspect there's a setting somewhere to enable ethernet control.


> --- On Tuesday, January 16, 2024 at 9:38 AM, peter milton wrote:
>
> I have a Tivi DVr and 4 TiVo minis,
> I am using the TiVo 3 series module and can connect to the main DvR unit via
> the Ip and control the unit.
> The same module will not connect to the ip addresses of the TiVo Minis.
> How do you connect to the Mini units and control them, these can all be
> controlled via the TiVo app
>
> Thanks
>
> Regards
> Pete Milton
>






Re: Controlling TiVo

 

I've controlled several Tivo Minis on various projects using the ethernet
module. However, the technicians always took care of configuring the boxes. I
suspect there's a setting somewhere to enable ethernet control.

--- On Tuesday, January 16, 2024 at 9:38 AM, peter milton wrote:

I have a Tivi DVr and 4 TiVo minis,
I am using the TiVo 3 series module and can connect to the main DvR unit via
the Ip and control the unit.
The same module will not connect to the ip addresses of the TiVo Minis.
How do you connect to the Mini units and control them, these can all be
controlled via the TiVo app

Thanks

Regards
Pete Milton
Topics in Home Automation - New Article in Residential Tech Today

 

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My latest article is the second in a three part series on the resilient smart home.? The first article focused on making the smart home systems in a home resilient to natural disasters, and other events, that can impact the ability of the homeowners and their family to live in their home.? This second part in this series of articles focuses on making other systems in the home resilient.? The final article in this series will focus on leveraging smart home technology to avoid having issues in your home and, again, leveraging smart home technology to minimize the damage to a home when an issue occurs.

You can find the article here:

The first article in the series can be found here:



For those interested in earlier articles that I've written, you can find those here:



I've found a new site to host my blog so for those that want to see even more content I've written about smart home technology you can find that using the link below. The process of exporting all my old content from Blogger and importing it into WordPress was far from perfect. So there are formatting issues with old posts and images that didn't import. I will see what I can do about correcting some of these issues over time.



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Re: Anyone noticing slowdowns/failures in loading to 4-series processors lately?

 

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I have SETLOGOFFIDLETIME set to infinte on my CP4 so I can run SimplDebugger for extended periods of time to capture spurious issues when I'm debugging driver code.? Unfortunately, my experience is that it doesn't work.? I still get disconnects if I try to leave Simpldebugger running for any extended period of time.

I wish it would work as it has become near impossible to try and capture error situations that only occur at irregular time intervals.

?

Jay

On 1/16/2024 11:20 AM, Michael Block wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

Slip,

I bet the SystemInfo issue you are having is related to the hardening of the processor. ?This command "SETLOGOFFIDLETIME" defaults to 20 minutes IIRC but can be changed. ?If you have text console or debugger open but idle, this command will kick you out of those too. ?I typically set this for 60 minutes when I commission each system.

HTH,

Michael

Re: Anyone noticing slowdowns/failures in loading to 4-series processors lately?

 
Edited

Slip,

I bet the SystemInfo issue you are having is related to the hardening of the processor. ?This command "SETLOGOFFIDLETIME" defaults to 20 minutes IIRC but can be changed. ?If you have text console or debugger open but idle, this command will kick you out of those too. ?I typically set this for 60 minutes when I commission each system.

HTH,

Michael
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