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Re: Crestron App - won't work on new android phone - need alternative
yes, but phone won't run 32-bit apps - see my other post about app not compatible
crestron app for android is 32-bit i have asked what the state of Crestron Go (64-bit maybe) for android is, but for some reason i haven't got an answer yet (been a week) |
Re: CEC Control?
Thanks Brian.? I've never used CEC with NVX or DM.? Typically I hadn't found it to be as reliable and ran the risk of other devices triggering commands back thru (ie Blu-ray turning a display back on), so I just preferred using IR or 232.? From my experience the most reliable. Anyway I'll look at the Crestron 101.? Some of their little widgets, even after a couple decades I have a hard time finding. Oh well. |
Re: Crestron Go app questions
It shouldn't take nearly that long. Even on "slow" projects, I've never seen it take more than 5 or so seconds to connect. I suspect an issue with the device itself (some type of setting), the network, or possibly the program - of course we know it's not that :-)
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Androids have a setting to limit an app's Wi-Fi use when it's running in the background. I can't remember what it's called, but it's enabled on a per-app basis and should definitely be turned off for Crestron. I think someone else already mentioned turning off the "Check for Updates" option in the app's settings. Although that will prevent future changes from automatically being applied, it will speed-up the connection time by at least a couple seconds. You could also load the file locally, i.e., store it on the device, but I hate doing that and it's even less convenient if future updates are needed. --- On Friday, November 17, 2023 at 7:17 AM, mark kaye wrote: |
Re: IR Control via AVpro MXnet
Good to know!!
Just to clarify, My concern with P+H is not for example the recent ATV OS issue where you need two commands (Press and P+H) on the same button. My concern is when you need a repeating command on a P+H like volume... In using the IR module in the suite that CCi built, Are you using the Digital Inputs with string in the parameters, or an SIO/AOS into their serial Input? TIA! |
Re: Crestron Go app questions
is there anything i can do from a programming perspective to keep the app alive on the phone?
maybe some sort of keep alive or heartbeat signal client is really unhappy with how long it takes to wake back up i let the app go to sleep on my android phone overnight - took 20-30 sec to reconnect on my local RMC4 running his code not sure how long before it goes to deep sleep |
Re: IR Control via AVpro MXnet
TBH, have done quite a few of these guys and never run into a P&H issue, but it makes sense.? All the projects we have dealt with usually feed TV audio back into distribution so its always just a matter of turning the TV on and a local Apple TV or something.? I'm sure there probably is a project or two where we had to use a P&H though for whatever reason and it has worked fine without even thinking about it.? For all intents and purposes, the IR commands, at least for Samsung and Sony displays have worked exactly like they would from a Crestron driver.
As I think about this also, since the new Apple TV OS update kind of jacked some P&H stuff up.? We have rolled in the throttle on the commands and it has worked just like it has from a standard Crestron IR control. |
Re: CEC Control?
Jonathan,
We are typically communicating to displays with Crestron products like DM or NVX, so never had any problems there. However, Crestron makes an HDMI display controller specifically for the purpose that you are looking for. The HD-CTL-101 can control a display via CEC commands. It has an 8K HDMI in and out along with IR, com, and relay. It can be configured to control the display automatically or via a control system. Of course, the display has to adhere to the CEC standards for all of this to work. There are other CEC insertion devices, but I don't think that I would trust them in an installation. Hope this helps, Brian |
CEC Control?
I feel a bit stupid asking, but to control a CEC display I need to have a "driver" that allows me to insert control commands onto the HDMI correct?
Is there another port on any displays that can be used to give CEC control commands?? Assuming there aren't serial ports that have CEC commands available right? BACKGROUND:? A Samsung WA75C Interactive display.? This is considered digital signage.? So Far: - IR commands: Samsung Discrete?NO. Power Toggle, Volume, Navs work, but no discretes. - RS232 Port: No responses to EX-LINK or MDC protocols @ 9600 or 19200 (no garbage back either).? - TCP/IP: Tried a couple Samsung drivers from crestron.drivers.io to no avail yet. I have a Binary?B-660-MTRX-8X8?that has CEC Display on/off, but not working consistently.? No other way in the protocol for it that I see to insert CEC commands, BUT in the manual it says it works with CEC commands. Just wondering if anyone has thoughts or experience.? Spent too much time trying to control this thing.? Thanks, Jonathan. |
IR Control via AVpro MXnet
Hi All,
We're doing are first MXnet project (finally!) and we're needing to use it to pass IR to devices. I'm confident of the process with the v2.x modules. My question is what is the experience with P+H functions like TV volume, or Guide control (P+H the Up button to have it continuously go up...) I know that I can use an OSC to retrigger the command string... What are peoples' experience with this, and has anyone found a better way to deal with it? Most importantly, how is the client experience with it?? TIA! |
Re: LG OLED TV CCD IP Driver - How to get it to work on a CP3?
Below are notes I send to technicians, with the settings needed for LG ethernet communications.
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You've obviously taken care of #1, but I'd double-check the others. Typically when Power On (only) doesn't work, either some type of power-saving is enabled, or the MAC address is wrong. The TV has two MAC addresses, one for Wired and one for Wireless. 1. Requires passcode - All Settings > Connection - While "Connection" is highlighted press 828888 on the remote, generate a key code, and enter it in the program. 2. Requires MAC Address - All Settings > Connection > Wired/Wifi Connection > MAC Address. Please provide in the format of AA:BB:CC:DD:EE:FF 3. To enable IP control, Navigate to All Settings > Put focus on Network icon > On IR Remote enter the following sequence: 828888 > Enable 'Network IP Control' and also enable 'Wake On Lan'. 4. To enable powering on the device, Mobile TV must be enabled. Settings > Network > Mobile Projector On and set 'Turn on via Wi-Fi' to 'On'. 5. If the device does not respond to power on/wake on LAN, set 'Turn on via Wifi' OFF and then back ON again under All Settings > Connection > Mobile TV On > Turn on via Wifi. 6. When controlling the device over Ethernet, Wi-Fi must be disabled. When controlling over Wi-Fi, Ethernet should be unplugged. --- On Thursday, November 16, 2023 at 7:04 AM, Thorsten K?hler wrote: |
Re: Best way to program for a back up processor
¿ªÔÆÌåÓý? This is probably too simple, but why not include the network and power cable in the cable routine? If you are moving some cables from one to the other, what difference does it make if you move a couple more? ?Certainly employ a second power supply, but do not connect the power to the backup processor until it is needed (after the rest of the cables have been moved).? This gives you a backup power supply that could also be used if the primary power supply failed. ? Then you only have one processor on at a time.? Your backup is also completely isolated from potential electrical damage until it is actually in use. ? From: <[email protected]> on behalf of Audvizer <Audvizer@...> ? Hi All, The client wants a back up CP4 to take over if the primary CP4 goes down for whatever reason.?
Currently I have loaded the same program on each CP4 and they are both running simultaneously under different IPID¡¯s (03 & 04) on the UC Engine IP Table.? The client only has to swap the com cables and the relay cables.?
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Re: LG OLED TV CCD IP Driver - How to get it to work on a CP3?
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýHi Joachim, ? thanks for the information. I was hoping not to have to dive into the details of the API of the TVs as there?s a driver available. I think i?ll go for the WoL for the power-on and then use the driver for the rest. ? But thanks for the suggestion using a decompiler ¨C that might come in handy on other occasions. ? Cheers, ? Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> Im Auftrag von Joachim Hornung ? Hello Thorsten, do you have the API/Command-Specs for this device? If yes, you can do following: rename the pkg into a zip-file, unzip it. Inside there is the dll. Use a de-compiler, like JetBrains dotPeek (free download). Open the dll with the de-compiler and scroll through the file. you can find the commands and compare them with the api. Did you also tried the tx-passthrough in the module? Maybe it could be helpful... Greatings Joachim ? Am 16.11.2023 um 14:00 schrieb rickwookie:
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Re: LG OLED TV CCD IP Driver - How to get it to work on a CP3?
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýHello Thorsten, do you have the API/Command-Specs for this device? If yes, you can do following: rename the pkg into a zip-file, unzip it. Inside there is the dll. Use a de-compiler, like JetBrains dotPeek (free download). Open the dll with the de-compiler and scroll through the file.
you can find the commands and compare them with the api. Did you also tried the tx-passthrough in the module? Maybe it could be helpful... Greatings Joachim
Am 16.11.2023 um 14:00 schrieb
rickwookie:
I found the Power On would work about 10% of the time (as in 1 in 20 triggers). Send a simple WoL packet to the TVs MAC address (use the UDP symbol) and it fires every time. It annoys me that the CCD IP control drivers are so ropey. R.On 16 Nov 2023, at 12:03, Thorsten K?hler <thorsten.koehler@...> wrote: ?Update: I changed the order of the passcode and MAC-address, and now control works partially. I only need power on/off, input switching and power feedback. That works, except power-on and power feedback. The latter is aways high, regardless of the actuall state of the TV and power-on just doesn¡¯t work. Any ideas where to look at? Thanks, Thorsten -----Urspr¨¹ngliche Nachricht----- Von: Thorsten K?hler <thorsten.koehler@...> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 15. November 2023 20:04 An: '[email protected]' <[email protected]> Betreff: AW: [crestron] LG OLED TV CCD IP Driver - How to get it to work on a CP3? Thanks, Tony. Enabling logging revealed the following messages: ?00:02:52.344: [Console Data] : 048-12:05:26.696 ( 3) [Info ] CORD - LG Smart TV : Processing control command Connection.Connect() 00:02:52.344: [Console Data] : 048-12:05:26.704 ( 3) [Info ] TSPT - TcpTransport : Client made with to 192.168.1.56:9761 00:02:52.344: [Console Data] : 048-12:05:26.725 ( 3) [Debug ] TSPT - TcpTransport : ConnectToServerAsync return code: SOCKET_OK 00:02:52.359: [Console Data] : 048-12:05:26.739 ( 3) [Info ] CAPA - BasicInformation : Set UserAttribute 'MACAddress' = '9DHB1TVF' 00:02:52.359: [Console Data] : 048-12:05:26.746 ( 3) [Info ] CAPA - BasicInformation : Set UserAttribute 'MACAddress' = '9DHB1TVF' 00:02:52.359: [Console Data] : 048-12:05:26.750 ( 3) [Info ] CAPA - BasicInformation : Set UserAttribute 'OnScreenId' = '7C:64:6C:0E:80:10' 00:02:52.359: [Console Data] : 048-12:05:26.756 ( 3) [Info ] CAPA - BasicInformation : Set UserAttribute 'OnScreenId' = '7C:64:6C:0E:80:10'" Looks to me as if i?m sending the MAC and the passcode in the wrong order ("9DHB1TVF" is the passcode). I?ll change it into program and report back. Thanks, Thorsten -----Urspr¨¹ngliche Nachricht----- Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> Im Auftrag von Tony Golden Gesendet: Montag, 13. November 2023 14:55 An: [email protected] Betreff: Re: [crestron] LG OLED TV CCD IP Driver - How to get it to work on a CP3? Enable logging and watch the Log output in Debugger. That will usually have a clue to the problem. Also check the User Attribute Descriptions, either in Debugger or by opening the dat file in Notepad++ (or equivalent). Also, with multiple Certified Drivers in the program, they shouldn't all be loaded at once.--- On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 7:32 AM, Thorsten K?hler wrote: i tested a bit further and here?s the status: The exact model numbers of the client?s TVs are OLED97G29LA and OLED83C26LA. I?ve tried using the FlatPanelDisplay_LG_OLED88Z2PUA-SmartTV_IP from driver.io. Both model numbers are not listed in the help file for the driver, but I was assuming that they work anyway. The driver loads successfully, reports ¡°connected¡± but now function and feedback for one TV (the 97¡±) and does not even connect to the 83¡±. (see attached screenshot) For the 97¡± TV, the power feedback toggles between 1 and 0 every few seconds. Passcodes were created for both TVs. Any idea where to start looking? --
Mit freundlichen Gr¨¹?en ? Joachim Hornung Dipl.-Ing. (FH) ? Hornung Engineering Brenzquellstr. 10 D-89551 K?nigsbronn ? Telefon: 07328 / 9243900 Fax:???? ? 07328 / 9243911 Mail:?????? j.hornung@... **** HINWEIS: Dies ist eine vertrauliche Nachricht und nur f¨¹r den Adressaten bestimmt. Es ist nicht erlaubt, diese Nachricht zu kopieren, ?zu ver?ndern oder Dritten zug?nglich zu machen. Sollten Sie irrt¨¹mlich diese Nachricht erhalten haben, bitten wir um Ihre Mitteilung per E-Mail oder unter der oben angegebenen Telefonnummer. Bitte l?schen Sie diese E-Mail, inkl. aller Anh?nge, umgehend von Ihrem System. Vielen Dank! ? |
Re: LG OLED TV CCD IP Driver - How to get it to work on a CP3?
OK, will do that, thanks.
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Cheers, Thorsten -----Urspr¨¹ngliche Nachricht----- Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> Im Auftrag von rickwookie Gesendet: Donnerstag, 16. November 2023 14:01 An: [email protected] Betreff: Re: [crestron] LG OLED TV CCD IP Driver - How to get it to work on a CP3? I found the Power On would work about 10% of the time (as in 1 in 20 triggers). Send a simple WoL packet to the TVs MAC address (use the UDP symbol) and it fires every time. It annoys me that the CCD IP control drivers are so ropey. R. On 16 Nov 2023, at 12:03, Thorsten K?hler <thorsten.koehler@...> wrote: |
Re: LG OLED TV CCD IP Driver - How to get it to work on a CP3?
I found the Power On would work about 10% of the time (as in 1 in 20 triggers). Send a simple WoL packet to the TVs MAC address (use the UDP symbol) and it fires every time.
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It annoys me that the CCD IP control drivers are so ropey. R. On 16 Nov 2023, at 12:03, Thorsten K?hler <thorsten.koehler@...> wrote: |