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Re: Audio-Technica ATDM-0604 Mixer IP Control

 

Hi,?did you find the solution?


Re: Home appliances integration with Crestron? #crestron

 

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On the other hand I'm a big fan of having my washer, dryer, and dishwasher send my wife and I notifications when they finish their cycles.? My washer and dryer also beep when done.? However, I might be in my shop with the door closed to keep sawdust out of the rest of the house, working in the garage, or working outside.? In those locations I would never hear the beeping.?

I simply use energy monitors on the circuits for these appliances.? I monitor the energy use in the Crestron processor and send Pushover notifications to my wife and my smart phones.? I also send announcements to the Amazon Echos in the house.?

It is a bit of a challenge to do this with energy monitoring.? The dryer is easy as it uses quite a bit of energy just to spin the drum.? The washer and dishwasher use varying amounts of energy as the go through the various portion of a cleaning cycle.? However, if you study the data you can come up with a pattern and program the crestron system to look for that pattern.? It works well and doesn't invalidate the warranty on an expensive appliance by adding relays to the circuitry.? The downside of the technique is that if the appliance gets replaced you probably have to modify your code.

I'm using a TP-Link energy monitoring smart plug for the clothes washer and a Shelly EM for the dryer and dishwasher as the energy monitors.

I also have similar notifications setup when the mail gets delivered to our mailbox at the street :-)

Hope this helps

Jay

On 8/1/2021 5:21 PM, Geoffrey Reynolds wrote:

I'm still at the point where I don't see the allure of most of these smart appliances.? I see value in something like a refrigerator or freezer being able to tell me that the temperature has gone above a threshold.? But I don't see any value in the washer or drying being able to alert me on my smartphone.? We don't let either of those run when we aren't in the house and they both make beeping or buzzing noises that let us know when they're done.? I've heard too many horror stories over the years about someone who left their dryer going and came home to their house burned to the ground.

I get the whole "the customer is paying me to do XYZ" thing though.

Geoff

On Sun, Aug 1, 2021 at 4:31 PM Thyce : <thyce.colyn@...> wrote:
Getting washer and dryer status into the system is something I'm very interested in myself.? We are moving from a house with a washer and dryer that?for the past 21 years have been faithfully sending us a text?when they are done and flashing the lights if we are watching TV or listening to music.? Now we are moving to a house with "smart" appliances and it seems like way more work to integrate them the obvious way rather than just add a relay in parallel with the buzzer like I did to monitor the?old washer and dryer.? I've never had to worry about an update breaking things or having to cycle power to the washer to get it back online and those are some of the worries I have about maintaining a "smart" connection rather than a "dumb" relay.? ?

Let us know how you do with integrating them.??

Best of luck,
Thyce


On Tue, Jul 27, 2021, 7:38 PM Crestron_Programmer <s.marszalek11@...> wrote:
We just purchased a washer and dryer combo and both devices are on the network sending notifications. I'm sure there is a way to integrate with Alexa and have it, send notifications back the the system.


Re: Home appliances integration with Crestron? #crestron

 

I'm still at the point where I don't see the allure of most of these smart appliances.? I see value in something like a refrigerator or freezer being able to tell me that the temperature has gone above a threshold.? But I don't see any value in the washer or drying being able to alert me on my smartphone.? We don't let either of those run when we aren't in the house and they both make beeping or buzzing noises that let us know when they're done.? I've heard too many horror stories over the years about someone who left their dryer going and came home to their house burned to the ground.

I get the whole "the customer is paying me to do XYZ" thing though.

Geoff

On Sun, Aug 1, 2021 at 4:31 PM Thyce : <thyce.colyn@...> wrote:
Getting washer and dryer status into the system is something I'm very interested in myself.? We are moving from a house with a washer and dryer that?for the past 21 years have been faithfully sending us a text?when they are done and flashing the lights if we are watching TV or listening to music.? Now we are moving to a house with "smart" appliances and it seems like way more work to integrate them the obvious way rather than just add a relay in parallel with the buzzer like I did to monitor the?old washer and dryer.? I've never had to worry about an update breaking things or having to cycle power to the washer to get it back online and those are some of the worries I have about maintaining a "smart" connection rather than a "dumb" relay.? ?

Let us know how you do with integrating them.??

Best of luck,
Thyce


On Tue, Jul 27, 2021, 7:38 PM Crestron_Programmer <s.marszalek11@...> wrote:
We just purchased a washer and dryer combo and both devices are on the network sending notifications. I'm sure there is a way to integrate with Alexa and have it, send notifications back the the system.


Re: Home appliances integration with Crestron? #crestron

 

Getting washer and dryer status into the system is something I'm very interested in myself.? We are moving from a house with a washer and dryer that?for the past 21 years have been faithfully sending us a text?when they are done and flashing the lights if we are watching TV or listening to music.? Now we are moving to a house with "smart" appliances and it seems like way more work to integrate them the obvious way rather than just add a relay in parallel with the buzzer like I did to monitor the?old washer and dryer.? I've never had to worry about an update breaking things or having to cycle power to the washer to get it back online and those are some of the worries I have about maintaining a "smart" connection rather than a "dumb" relay.? ?

Let us know how you do with integrating them.??

Best of luck,
Thyce


On Tue, Jul 27, 2021, 7:38 PM Crestron_Programmer <s.marszalek11@...> wrote:
We just purchased a washer and dryer combo and both devices are on the network sending notifications. I'm sure there is a way to integrate with Alexa and have it, send notifications back the the system.


Re: http command works when sent from a browser but not when sent from a Crestron system

 

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Thanks Thyce

On 8/1/2021 2:07 PM, Thyce : wrote:

Hi Jay,

I use Wireshark at work exclusively on remote machines.? I RDP into a remote server or PC, install Wireshark, then before starting a capture I add a filter to keep the files size down.? It hasn't failed me yet.

Good luck,
Thyce


On Sun, Aug 1, 2021 at 12:18 PM jbasen <jay.m.basen@...> wrote:

Thanks Wyatt.

The challenge here is that I'm almost 5000 miles away from where all the hardware is located so trying to use wireshark is a bit of an issue.? Also, all the commands the software is sending to the Hubitat work with the single exception of the command to suspend watering.? There is just something different when the date is attached to the end of the url that works when entered using a browser but doesn't work when sent through S#.

Thanks again

Jay

On 8/1/2021 7:58 AM, Wyatt J wrote:
I have been messing with some HTTP stuff recently myself.? I've found the best thing is to run wireshark on the system with the browser and see what the traffic back and forth looks like.? In my case the device was doing digest authentication, which is impossible to deal with without S#.


Re: http command works when sent from a browser but not when sent from a Crestron system

 

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Thanks Kenny.? I'll take a look at Postman

Jay

On 8/1/2021 1:51 PM, Kenny Hays wrote:

This would be a use for Postman. I use it for testing any http stuff.


Re: http command works when sent from a browser but not when sent from a Crestron system

 

Hi Jay,

I use Wireshark at work exclusively on remote machines.? I RDP into a remote server or PC, install Wireshark, then before starting a capture I add a filter to keep the files size down.? It hasn't failed me yet.

Good luck,
Thyce


On Sun, Aug 1, 2021 at 12:18 PM jbasen <jay.m.basen@...> wrote:

Thanks Wyatt.

The challenge here is that I'm almost 5000 miles away from where all the hardware is located so trying to use wireshark is a bit of an issue.? Also, all the commands the software is sending to the Hubitat work with the single exception of the command to suspend watering.? There is just something different when the date is attached to the end of the url that works when entered using a browser but doesn't work when sent through S#.

Thanks again

Jay

On 8/1/2021 7:58 AM, Wyatt J wrote:
I have been messing with some HTTP stuff recently myself.? I've found the best thing is to run wireshark on the system with the browser and see what the traffic back and forth looks like.? In my case the device was doing digest authentication, which is impossible to deal with without S#.


Re: http command works when sent from a browser but not when sent from a Crestron system

 

This would be a use for Postman. I use it for testing any http stuff.


Re: http command works when sent from a browser but not when sent from a Crestron system

 

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Thanks Ken,

I am sending multiple different commands to the hubitat that all work perfectly.? It is just the for suspending watering until a date that is causing issues.? So, I know that the token and authorization are fine.?

My guesses are that it is either a header issue or something with the way the url (with the date) is being encoded that is causing the problem.? I was hoping someone would look at the url, that has more http knowledge than I do, and the issue would be obvious to them.

Using curl is a great idea since there is much more control of the headers than with a browser.?

Thanks again

Jay

On 8/1/2021 11:51 AM, Ken Ragan via groups.io wrote:

I have no experience with the Hubitat or the Hydrawise, but ideally the response for an auth issue should be a 401 or 403 and not the 404 that you're seeing.? A 404 is supposed to indicate an issue in the URL string.? However, it could be worth a try to leave off the access_token URL parameter (and/or supply a bogus value) on the Crestron call and see if a 404 is still returned.? If the response changes to a 401 or 403 then you have some confidence that you're not dealing with an auth issue with your access_token.? Also, may want to try the browser calling the URL without the access_token and compare that with Crestron calling the URL without access_token to see if there's a difference in response/behavior between the two in that scenario.??

I've seen some equipment that needed certain headers before playing nice, so another suggestion would be adding some of the headers that aren't currently being sent from the Crestron call.? To help with issues like this I tend to use the curl command from a command prompt instead of the browser when troubleshooting.? If a basic curl command with no headers works, then I would suspect something in how the Crestron program is formatting the command and at that point you could try comparing the curl call vs the Crestron call (with the webhooks site or wireshark) without the noise of the additional headers that the browser introduced.? If curl also fails when you use it without headers, then could try adding the headers one by one that the web browser is sending.??

Good luck!

On Sunday, August 1, 2021, 08:58:36 AM CDT, Wyatt J <wyatt@...> wrote:


I have been messing with some HTTP stuff recently myself.? I've found the best thing is to run wireshark on the system with the browser and see what the traffic back and forth looks like.? In my case the device was doing digest authentication, which is impossible to deal with without S#.


Re: http command works when sent from a browser but not when sent from a Crestron system

 

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Thanks Wyatt.

The challenge here is that I'm almost 5000 miles away from where all the hardware is located so trying to use wireshark is a bit of an issue.? Also, all the commands the software is sending to the Hubitat work with the single exception of the command to suspend watering.? There is just something different when the date is attached to the end of the url that works when entered using a browser but doesn't work when sent through S#.

Thanks again

Jay

On 8/1/2021 7:58 AM, Wyatt J wrote:

I have been messing with some HTTP stuff recently myself.? I've found the best thing is to run wireshark on the system with the browser and see what the traffic back and forth looks like.? In my case the device was doing digest authentication, which is impossible to deal with without S#.


Re: http command works when sent from a browser but not when sent from a Crestron system

 

I have no experience with the Hubitat or the Hydrawise, but ideally the response for an auth issue should be a 401 or 403 and not the 404 that you're seeing.? A 404 is supposed to indicate an issue in the URL string.? However, it could be worth a try to leave off the access_token URL parameter (and/or supply a bogus value) on the Crestron call and see if a 404 is still returned.? If the response changes to a 401 or 403 then you have some confidence that you're not dealing with an auth issue with your access_token.? Also, may want to try the browser calling the URL without the access_token and compare that with Crestron calling the URL without access_token to see if there's a difference in response/behavior between the two in that scenario.??

I've seen some equipment that needed certain headers before playing nice, so another suggestion would be adding some of the headers that aren't currently being sent from the Crestron call.? To help with issues like this I tend to use the curl command from a command prompt instead of the browser when troubleshooting.? If a basic curl command with no headers works, then I would suspect something in how the Crestron program is formatting the command and at that point you could try comparing the curl call vs the Crestron call (with the webhooks site or wireshark) without the noise of the additional headers that the browser introduced.? If curl also fails when you use it without headers, then could try adding the headers one by one that the web browser is sending.??

Good luck!

On Sunday, August 1, 2021, 08:58:36 AM CDT, Wyatt J <wyatt@...> wrote:


I have been messing with some HTTP stuff recently myself.? I've found the best thing is to run wireshark on the system with the browser and see what the traffic back and forth looks like.? In my case the device was doing digest authentication, which is impossible to deal with without S#.


Re: http command works when sent from a browser but not when sent from a Crestron system

 

I have been messing with some HTTP stuff recently myself.? I've found the best thing is to run wireshark on the system with the browser and see what the traffic back and forth looks like.? In my case the device was doing digest authentication, which is impossible to deal with without S#.


Has Anyone controlled an (Australian) Foxtel Now Box over IP?

 

I am doing a residential and they are using Foxtel Now, the streaming service and have 2 of the dwt765fxt boxes. It looks like they are a repurposed google box.

I would like to get better control of it that IR (a 14 button remote) so was wondering if any one has an API for it?



Any help appreciated.


http command works when sent from a browser but not when sent from a Crestron system

 

I'm working with someone in England helping them to control their Hunter Hydrawise irrigation system that is connected to a Hubitat Elevation hub from a Crestron system.? Most of the commands being sent to the Hubitat to control the Hydrawise work fine.? Such as:

[Hubitat IP Address]/apps/api/20/devices/100/open?access_token=[Access Token]

However, I'm having problems with the suspendZone command; which takes a date in the format of yyyy-mm-dd.? The Hydrawise will suspend watering until that date.

The format of the command ends up being:

[Hubitat IP Address]/apps/api/20/devices/100/suspendZone/2021-12-31?access_token=[Access Token]

The strange part is when the person I'm working with sends this particular command from a browser to their Hubitat to control their Hydrawise system they are telling me it works fine.. However, when sent from a Crestron processor to their hubitat they are reporting they get the following error: HttpException: HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found

I've looked at the differences between if the command is sent from a browser to webhooks.site and when the url is sent from a Crestron system to webhooks.site.? I'm not seeing anything that jumps out at me that would stop this from working.

When sent from the Crestron system I'm not setting any http header info.

The browser, on the other hand sets the following:

|connection|close|
|---|---|
|sec-gpc|1|
|accept-language|en-US,en;q=0.9|
|accept-encoding|gzip, deflate|
|accept|text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,image/avif,image/webp,image/apng,*/*;q=0.8,application/signed-exchange;v=b3;q=0.9|
|user-agent|Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/92.0.4515.107 Safari/537.36|
|upgrade-insecure-requests|1|
|dnt|1|
|cache-control|max-age=0|
|host|webhook.site|
|content-length||
|content-type||

Any ideas on what could be different that would keep the Hubitat command from being accepted when sent from the Crestron system would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance for the help

Jay


Re: closing an X-Panel

 

Thanks everyone for the ideas.

It looks like VMK-WIN will do what I need and be the simplest to implement, so I'll start with that.

--- On Saturday, July 31, 2021 at 1:49 PM, Geoffrey Reynolds wrote:

It makes far more sense to use something like EventGhost or MCEController
rather than reinventing the wheel. Both of these can respond to commands via
TCP from the Crestron controller and issue whatever command you need to close
an app or kill the process (much cleaner to close the window; killing a process
should be more of a last resort).


On Sat, Jul 31, 2021 at 1:46 PM, Natalie Jackman wrote:

You could write a server program on your machine running the xpanel that works
over tcp and when you send the command it closes the xpanel.


On Jul 31, 2021, at 12:16 PM, Steve Kuehn <steve@...> wrote:
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You might want to look at:


You will have to write a custom windows program with a communication link to
your processor to do it however. But it should not be too hard to do.


Re: Question: Easy way to convert a Crestron Mobile to Crestron App project??

 

Thanks Zac,
Yes, I missed the Convert to Smart Graphics Button in VTP - After a couple tries, it actually worked pretty good I think.
All the text is microscopic, so there's some work to be done there, but overall it's not terrible, at least not like starting from scratch!!

We're still going to discuss a re-write, but this give me a good option - Thanks for all the quick responses!!


Re: closing an X-Panel

 

It makes far more sense to use something like EventGhost or MCEController rather than reinventing the wheel.? Both of these can respond to commands via TCP from the Crestron controller and issue whatever command you need to close an app or kill the process (much cleaner to close the window; killing a process should be more of a last resort).

Geoff

On Sat, Jul 31, 2021 at 1:46 PM Natalie Jackman <natalie.jackman.1981@...> wrote:
You could write a server program on your machine running the xpanel ?that works over tcp and when you send the command it closes the xpanel.


On Jul 31, 2021, at 12:16 PM, Steve Kuehn <steve@...> wrote:

?You might want to look at:


You will have to write a custom windows program with a communication link to your processor to do it however.? But it should not be too hard to do.


Re: closing an X-Panel

 

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You could write a server program on your machine running the xpanel ?that works over tcp and when you send the command it closes the xpanel.


On Jul 31, 2021, at 12:16 PM, Steve Kuehn <steve@...> wrote:

?You might want to look at:


You will have to write a custom windows program with a communication link to your processor to do it however.? But it should not be too hard to do.


Re: Question: Easy way to convert a Crestron Mobile to Crestron App project??

 

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Crestron Mobile is the old style of panel and Crestron App is smart graphics. They are not compatible. You will have to make a new panel and design it to emulate the old panel.


On Jul 31, 2021, at 12:11 PM, ckangis <chris@...> wrote:

?Subject says it all!
I have a client that needs to change an existing Crestron Mobile to the Crestron App. I tried doing a 'Save As' and VTPro rejected it...I get it...
Any one have any tricks??

TIA!


Re: Simpl compiled zipped file is missing sgd

 

Is it possible this is happening when the original SGD files were kept in different directory locations?? I know I've had issues with SIMPL complaining if I move around my vtp files when I'm working on them (like when the file names get too long and I have to move to a temp directory), SIMPL may be looking for the SGD files in that original location and can't find them (even though they were pulled into the archive, and they now live in the local directory)?? Is that what's happening when the archive/unarchive process is happening?