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Re: UC Engine - Multiple platforms

 

What is the onboard USB in your example?

Thanks!


Re: AV3 / PRO3 relay failure

 

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I¡¯ve abused relays on 3-series processors (including doing stupid things like clicking one every ? second for a couple hours just because) and I fairly frequently find myself having to use a ? second duty cycle ¡°blinker¡± for some real-world applications so I doubt that the frequency of a gate opener operation is, by itself, the cause.

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If you¡¯re particularly seeing failures on a gate opener that would suggest to me either the current is exceeding the ratings of the Pro3 relays (compare spec sheets) or the gate opener being outside you¡¯re picking up lighting hits or other electrical transients that may not be enough to blow up anything else but are exceeding the limits of the relays.

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In either case I would use an outboard relay (IIRC Elk has some nice pre-packaged ones) as a sacrificial relay and drive that from the PRO3¡­Perhaps with an opto-isolator for extra safety

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Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Diamond)
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of plareeeiybusse
Sent: Monday, June 07, 2021 10:41 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [crestron] AV3 / PRO3 relay failure

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How often are you experiencing relay port failures on 3 series processors?? I am seeing an unacceptable number of high failures with these especially when it is a regularly used relay such as for a gate control.? I've seen them fail on 2 series processors in the past, but much less often.? I'm wondering if there is a more robust solution as well.


NUVISION RS232 Wiring/Commands

 

Hello,

Currently upgrading an old PRO2 system, TV's Will be upgraded shortly as well but for now it is still NUVISION.

I am unable to talk to the TV and only get error responses back.? Commands are correct they were taken directly from old file and apparently it was working prior to switchover (although it is a bedroom and they have multiple homes so I am unsure how long since this TV has even been used.)? I also looked up NUVISION protocol and the commands match perfectly.

I am wondering if it could be a wiring issue but I assume if wiring was incorrect I would not even be getting error messages back right? Any thoughts or ideas??

Thanks in advance.


Re: NVX/Dante network with Wireless Access?

 

Hi Scott

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I think you have IGMP v2 enabled. And thus unregistered multicast addresses are not available to the AP.

You have to manually add these Dante multicast addresses to the group addresses and set them to static on all ports:

224.0.0.230

224.0.0.231

224.0.0.232

224.0.0.233

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If you need more help, write me an email and I will send you a config file.

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Have fun

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Dan


AV3 / PRO3 relay failure

 

How often are you experiencing relay port failures on 3 series processors?? I am seeing an unacceptable number of high failures with these especially when it is a regularly used relay such as for a gate control.? I've seen them fail on 2 series processors in the past, but much less often.? I'm wondering if there is a more robust solution as well.


Group Digest

 

Anyone else not get any group digest emails for the last week or so?


Re: NVX/Dante network with Wireless Access?

 

I could be way off, but is it possible the AP has a spanning tree setting causing this?
Are you still able to connect to the QSYS devices is you add a hard-link? Just no discovery?


Re: Flex systems - audio level drops when sharing content

 

Update from ATSG:? This is a known issue that will be addressed in the?4.9.x Microsoft Teams rooms build


On Thu, Jun 3, 2021 at 4:11 PM Audvizer <Audvizer@...> wrote:

Hi,

we¡¯ve installed about 10 of them of late and getting the same issue.?

I was advised to update the firmware to 705 and also select do nothing on on the sound communications settings

path:
sound-sound control panel-communications?

That also didn¡¯t work so he tried adding a duckingpreference in a Microsoft software folder in registry editor. I¡¯ll be testing this in the morning and will let you know?


Re: UC Engine - Multiple platforms

 

Depends on your microphones. Currently we are seeing a lot of use with the Tesira X series. We add a EX-USB for the BYOD systems and use the onboard USB for the UC Engine


NVX/Dante network with Wireless Access?

 

Hi all, just need a little help.??

Has anyone successfully setup an NVX/Dante network and also managed to get Dante Controller working reliably via a wireless AP??

My system uses a Cisco SG350 and I have configured it correctly.? Dante works, NVX works and have not had a problem.? ?Today I connected a cisco?CBW240AC-Z WAP and have no problems accessing all my devices but completely randomly, Dante Controller stops working.? Does not show any devices at all.? Connect back via a cable and it works fine.? Also noted that Shure Device Discovery stops working at the same time, as well as QSYS device discovery.?

Eventually, I will connect back over wifi and Dante controller is happy again, same for the other two programs.? ?Until it drops again eventually.? ?Its just weird that it works flawlessly and then eventually craps out.? Watching the port stats in the switch, I am definitely not flooding any ports.? ?

Even when those programs stop functioning, wireless access is flawless and I can connect to any device, still control the system, audio keeps running.? ?I'm hoping its just a simple config setting ive missed in the switch.? Although, from everything I read, everyone says Dante Controller and wireless is a big no no.?

Hoping someone can point me in the right direction.?

Cheers

Scott?


Re: Home appliances integration with Crestron? #crestron

 

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We?re using a Miele dishwasher and washing machine at home. Up to now, they are notifying via app that they are finished which is useful.

It has a REST API to interface with 3d party systems ¨C I didn?t find the time yet to integrate them into my Crestron system, but it?s on the list.

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Cheers, Thorsten

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Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> Im Auftrag von jbasen
Gesendet: Freitag, 4. Juni 2021 19:45
An: [email protected]
Betreff: Re: [crestron] Home appliances integration with Crestron? #crestron

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Let me just add one other thing.? Using energy monitors to tell you when an appliance is done is not as simple as it would at first seem.? First of all, appliances all use some power 24x7.? On top of that, a cleaning cycle is broken down into smaller sections that each use a different amount of power.? A clothes washer is a good example.? It fills the tub, agitates the clothes.? spins to remove water from the clothes, etc.? In between these sections of the cleaning cycle are gaps where power usage drops to the same level as the machine uses while idle.? If the homeowner wants the notification to be as close as possible to the time when the cycle ends you need to look at energy usage as a pattern and only send a notification when the measured power use matches that pattern.?

The simplest major appliance I've found to setup notifications for is a clothes dryer.? The clothes and dishwashers are more complicated.

Jay

On 6/4/2021 10:20 AM, Tony Howard wrote:

A bit like Jay's comment.?

One thing I tend to notice is that in the end many clients actually just wanted to see if an appliance is: on/off, started/finished, has been running for x minutes. This feature set can usually be very easily realised by monitoring the appliances energy?usage through an energy management?system,?or even a simple CT coil into an analog?input. Then the user interfaces can come alive with useful?information (don't?over do it though) and the client starts to feel like the home is actually?connected to the system and vice versa.

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Regards

Tony Howard

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On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 4:44 PM jbasen <jay.m.basen@...> wrote:

I can throw some light on this.? However, the first question for your client is what are the use cases for each appliance.? The typical use case for a coffee maker is I want the coffee maker to be triggered to start brewing when my alarm clock goes off so by the time I get myself out of bed, hit the bathroom, etc. the coffee is ready.? If this is the case the only command you need for the coffee maker is one to start brewing.? If the customer likes their coffee maker then this might be accomplished by plugging the coffee maker into a smart switch.? Another alternative to making a dumb coffee maker smart is to use a SwitchBot.? If you want to find a smart one that can be integrated with a smart home platform then you are probably looking at using IFTTT or Home Connect through IFTTT for integration.?

As I said in the start the first thing to understand is what the use cases are for each appliance.? I don't know what the use case would be for connecting a fridge to Crestron.? The last thing you would ever want to do is to shut the fridge off and have all the food spoil.

I have done quite a bit with integrating robotic vacuums to a Crestron system.? The best one for integration (though I have other complaints about the product line) are Roombas.? The only way to integrate Roombas is again through IFTTT.? The Roomba IFTTT channel supports both triggers to start a robot and events that let you know when a robot is done.? The triggers work well but the events leave something to be desired.? However, you can make it work.? I personally trigger a vacuum to run once each week when my wife and I leave the house.? When the vacuum finishes a robotic mop runs.? When the mop finishes we get a notification reminding us to change the mop pad and empty the vacuum.

The only use case I have found valuable for dishwashers, clothes washers, and clothes dryers is a notification when the appliance finishes its cycle.? I use energy monitoring to determine this and then simply send notifications to smart phones and tablets.

Most of the code for integrating with the above is on my GitHub.? For IFTTT integration I use my IFTTT module to send triggers.? However, direct integration with IFTTT events requires a port forward on the router; which is a bad idea.? So, I included code in my Hubitat integration library to utilize the Hubitat to receive event notifications from IFTTT and then pass them to a Crestron processor.? A little messy but it works very well and eliminates the port forward.? I have a SwitchBot driver on my GitHub and drivers for Shelly devices that can be used for energy monitoring.? There is also a driver I use for a Kasa energy monitoring smart plug but I haven't tested it with the latest version of the Kasa smart plug.?

Hope this helps

Jay

On 6/4/2021 7:58 AM, David Chramcow wrote:

What's the scope of integration that Crestron has with Home Appliances? we have a client that aside from the usual stuff (lighting, shades, climate, audio and video) he wants to integrate as much of the home appliances as well, he mentioned:

* Coffeemakers
* Fridges
* Roombas
* Laundry Machines
* ....

Is this even possible? maybe this can be done using an IoT hub (like the Hubitat) as an interface?

What is your experience with these kind of requests?

Thanks.


Contemporary Research 232-ATSC +4 v1.3.1

 

Has anyone had any luck with this module recalling cable channel presets?? I have tried both using the parameters at the bottom and then pulsing the preset number and then using an sio (with \x0A as the delimiter) to drive the Channel Preset Text In part of the module.? In the first case, I would not see any channel change or tx string from the module.? In the second instance, I would only see what I put into the module from the sio but no channel change.? All other functions I am using for the tuner are working properly.

Rick Arnold


Re: NVX switch recommendations #nvx

 

Look through the Extreme X440-G2 series to see if there is a model with the port counts you need.? Very little to no configuration needed if you're just using a single switch with NVX.


Re: NVX switch recommendations #nvx

 

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It depends on how many of each you¡¯re working with.

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I¡¯d start looking at the Catalyst 9500 series and it¡¯s real easy to do up to 48 copper ports and 8 fiber (using a C9500-NM-8X/C9300-NM-8M network module) in a single switch. If you need more than 8 fiber you could either go with a SFP only switch like the C9500-40X and populate the copper ports with GLC-T SFP transceivers (expensive and clunky, IMO) or stack a C9500-40X (40 SFP/SFP+) or -16X (16 SFP/SFP+) with a C9500-48Y4C (48 1/10/25G ports with 4 100G ports)

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Since the 9500 doesn¡¯t have a dedicated stack port/technology and uses stackwise virtual you¡¯d need to make sure you have enough interfaces with enough bandwidth available to create a virtual stack ¨C this of course depends on the number of encoders on each switch.

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Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS, DMC-E-4K/T/D
Commercial Market Director
Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Diamond)
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
Direct: (+1)440.771.4807 | Cleveland: (+1)440.449.1100? | Boston: (+1)508.695.0188 | DC: (+1)202.381.9070? | Fax: (+1)440.449.1106
Crestron Services Provider | Biamp Authorized Independent Programmers | Extron Qualified Independent Programmer

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brandon Collins via groups.io
Sent: Friday, June 04, 2021 10:33 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [crestron] NVX switch recommendations #nvx

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I do not know if this has be asked before. I am doing a commercial project and I was looking to use a mix of Fiber and copper connections for NVX. Does any one have a recommendation for a single switch from?extreme networks or cisco that could do both? Or do I need two switches and link them together?

Thanks
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Re: Home appliances integration with Crestron? #crestron

 

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Let me just add one other thing.? Using energy monitors to tell you when an appliance is done is not as simple as it would at first seem.? First of all, appliances all use some power 24x7.? On top of that, a cleaning cycle is broken down into smaller sections that each use a different amount of power.? A clothes washer is a good example.? It fills the tub, agitates the clothes.? spins to remove water from the clothes, etc.? In between these sections of the cleaning cycle are gaps where power usage drops to the same level as the machine uses while idle.? If the homeowner wants the notification to be as close as possible to the time when the cycle ends you need to look at energy usage as a pattern and only send a notification when the measured power use matches that pattern.?

The simplest major appliance I've found to setup notifications for is a clothes dryer.? The clothes and dishwashers are more complicated.

Jay

On 6/4/2021 10:20 AM, Tony Howard wrote:

A bit like Jay's comment.?
One thing I tend to notice is that in the end many clients actually just wanted to see if an appliance is: on/off, started/finished, has been running for x minutes. This feature set can usually be very easily realised by monitoring the appliances energy?usage through an energy management?system,?or even a simple CT coil into an analog?input. Then the user interfaces can come alive with useful?information (don't?over do it though) and the client starts to feel like the home is actually?connected to the system and vice versa.


Regards
Tony Howard
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On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 4:44 PM jbasen <jay.m.basen@...> wrote:

I can throw some light on this.? However, the first question for your client is what are the use cases for each appliance.? The typical use case for a coffee maker is I want the coffee maker to be triggered to start brewing when my alarm clock goes off so by the time I get myself out of bed, hit the bathroom, etc. the coffee is ready.? If this is the case the only command you need for the coffee maker is one to start brewing.? If the customer likes their coffee maker then this might be accomplished by plugging the coffee maker into a smart switch.? Another alternative to making a dumb coffee maker smart is to use a SwitchBot.? If you want to find a smart one that can be integrated with a smart home platform then you are probably looking at using IFTTT or Home Connect through IFTTT for integration.?

As I said in the start the first thing to understand is what the use cases are for each appliance.? I don't know what the use case would be for connecting a fridge to Crestron.? The last thing you would ever want to do is to shut the fridge off and have all the food spoil.

I have done quite a bit with integrating robotic vacuums to a Crestron system.? The best one for integration (though I have other complaints about the product line) are Roombas.? The only way to integrate Roombas is again through IFTTT.? The Roomba IFTTT channel supports both triggers to start a robot and events that let you know when a robot is done.? The triggers work well but the events leave something to be desired.? However, you can make it work.? I personally trigger a vacuum to run once each week when my wife and I leave the house.? When the vacuum finishes a robotic mop runs.? When the mop finishes we get a notification reminding us to change the mop pad and empty the vacuum.

The only use case I have found valuable for dishwashers, clothes washers, and clothes dryers is a notification when the appliance finishes its cycle.? I use energy monitoring to determine this and then simply send notifications to smart phones and tablets.

Most of the code for integrating with the above is on my GitHub.? For IFTTT integration I use my IFTTT module to send triggers.? However, direct integration with IFTTT events requires a port forward on the router; which is a bad idea.? So, I included code in my Hubitat integration library to utilize the Hubitat to receive event notifications from IFTTT and then pass them to a Crestron processor.? A little messy but it works very well and eliminates the port forward.? I have a SwitchBot driver on my GitHub and drivers for Shelly devices that can be used for energy monitoring.? There is also a driver I use for a Kasa energy monitoring smart plug but I haven't tested it with the latest version of the Kasa smart plug.?

Hope this helps

Jay

On 6/4/2021 7:58 AM, David Chramcow wrote:
What's the scope of integration that Crestron has with Home Appliances? we have a client that aside from the usual stuff (lighting, shades, climate, audio and video) he wants to integrate as much of the home appliances as well, he mentioned:

* Coffeemakers
* Fridges
* Roombas
* Laundry Machines
* ....

Is this even possible? maybe this can be done using an IoT hub (like the Hubitat) as an interface?

What is your experience with these kind of requests?

Thanks.


Re: UC Engine - Multiple platforms

 

Hi John,?

My personal preference would be the QSC Core 110f or the new smaller Flex DSP, if this caters for the number of inputs required. Provides all the features and can easily be integrated with Crestron.?

K


Re: UC Engine - Multiple platforms

 

Yanking the DSP is going to happen, guaranteed!? What would be your go to with the USB that the 1282 has and Crestron controllable?? Tesira?? The DSP is mainly for the mixing of microphones to the computer.? The camera is connected to the computer via USB.? Was thinking a UC system which would allow me to remove the microphones, computer and DSP all together.


Re: Home appliances integration with Crestron? #crestron

 

A bit like Jay's comment.?
One thing I tend to notice is that in the end many clients actually just wanted to see if an appliance is: on/off, started/finished, has been running for x minutes. This feature set can usually be very easily realised by monitoring the appliances energy?usage through an energy management?system,?or even a simple CT coil into an analog?input. Then the user interfaces can come alive with useful?information (don't?over do it though) and the client starts to feel like the home is actually?connected to the system and vice versa.


Regards
Tony Howard
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|??tony@...??|??+39 333 5971791?


On Fri, Jun 4, 2021 at 4:44 PM jbasen <jay.m.basen@...> wrote:

I can throw some light on this.? However, the first question for your client is what are the use cases for each appliance.? The typical use case for a coffee maker is I want the coffee maker to be triggered to start brewing when my alarm clock goes off so by the time I get myself out of bed, hit the bathroom, etc. the coffee is ready.? If this is the case the only command you need for the coffee maker is one to start brewing.? If the customer likes their coffee maker then this might be accomplished by plugging the coffee maker into a smart switch.? Another alternative to making a dumb coffee maker smart is to use a SwitchBot.? If you want to find a smart one that can be integrated with a smart home platform then you are probably looking at using IFTTT or Home Connect through IFTTT for integration.?

As I said in the start the first thing to understand is what the use cases are for each appliance.? I don't know what the use case would be for connecting a fridge to Crestron.? The last thing you would ever want to do is to shut the fridge off and have all the food spoil.

I have done quite a bit with integrating robotic vacuums to a Crestron system.? The best one for integration (though I have other complaints about the product line) are Roombas.? The only way to integrate Roombas is again through IFTTT.? The Roomba IFTTT channel supports both triggers to start a robot and events that let you know when a robot is done.? The triggers work well but the events leave something to be desired.? However, you can make it work.? I personally trigger a vacuum to run once each week when my wife and I leave the house.? When the vacuum finishes a robotic mop runs.? When the mop finishes we get a notification reminding us to change the mop pad and empty the vacuum.

The only use case I have found valuable for dishwashers, clothes washers, and clothes dryers is a notification when the appliance finishes its cycle.? I use energy monitoring to determine this and then simply send notifications to smart phones and tablets.

Most of the code for integrating with the above is on my GitHub.? For IFTTT integration I use my IFTTT module to send triggers.? However, direct integration with IFTTT events requires a port forward on the router; which is a bad idea.? So, I included code in my Hubitat integration library to utilize the Hubitat to receive event notifications from IFTTT and then pass them to a Crestron processor.? A little messy but it works very well and eliminates the port forward.? I have a SwitchBot driver on my GitHub and drivers for Shelly devices that can be used for energy monitoring.? There is also a driver I use for a Kasa energy monitoring smart plug but I haven't tested it with the latest version of the Kasa smart plug.?

Hope this helps

Jay

On 6/4/2021 7:58 AM, David Chramcow wrote:
What's the scope of integration that Crestron has with Home Appliances? we have a client that aside from the usual stuff (lighting, shades, climate, audio and video) he wants to integrate as much of the home appliances as well, he mentioned:

* Coffeemakers
* Fridges
* Roombas
* Laundry Machines
* ....

Is this even possible? maybe this can be done using an IoT hub (like the Hubitat) as an interface?

What is your experience with these kind of requests?

Thanks.


Re: NVX switch recommendations #nvx

 

Just did a system with four switches and fiber ran to connect all of them, We used the Extreme 220 switches? with 10gig fiber ports and everything seems to be working great.? Only thing to note would be in Crestrons switch config guide there is nothing about setting up querier for the VLAN and this will have to be done if using multiple switches


Re: Home appliances integration with Crestron? #crestron

 

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I can throw some light on this.? However, the first question for your client is what are the use cases for each appliance.? The typical use case for a coffee maker is I want the coffee maker to be triggered to start brewing when my alarm clock goes off so by the time I get myself out of bed, hit the bathroom, etc. the coffee is ready.? If this is the case the only command you need for the coffee maker is one to start brewing.? If the customer likes their coffee maker then this might be accomplished by plugging the coffee maker into a smart switch.? Another alternative to making a dumb coffee maker smart is to use a SwitchBot.? If you want to find a smart one that can be integrated with a smart home platform then you are probably looking at using IFTTT or Home Connect through IFTTT for integration.?

As I said in the start the first thing to understand is what the use cases are for each appliance.? I don't know what the use case would be for connecting a fridge to Crestron.? The last thing you would ever want to do is to shut the fridge off and have all the food spoil.

I have done quite a bit with integrating robotic vacuums to a Crestron system.? The best one for integration (though I have other complaints about the product line) are Roombas.? The only way to integrate Roombas is again through IFTTT.? The Roomba IFTTT channel supports both triggers to start a robot and events that let you know when a robot is done.? The triggers work well but the events leave something to be desired.? However, you can make it work.? I personally trigger a vacuum to run once each week when my wife and I leave the house.? When the vacuum finishes a robotic mop runs.? When the mop finishes we get a notification reminding us to change the mop pad and empty the vacuum.

The only use case I have found valuable for dishwashers, clothes washers, and clothes dryers is a notification when the appliance finishes its cycle.? I use energy monitoring to determine this and then simply send notifications to smart phones and tablets.

Most of the code for integrating with the above is on my GitHub.? For IFTTT integration I use my IFTTT module to send triggers.? However, direct integration with IFTTT events requires a port forward on the router; which is a bad idea.? So, I included code in my Hubitat integration library to utilize the Hubitat to receive event notifications from IFTTT and then pass them to a Crestron processor.? A little messy but it works very well and eliminates the port forward.? I have a SwitchBot driver on my GitHub and drivers for Shelly devices that can be used for energy monitoring.? There is also a driver I use for a Kasa energy monitoring smart plug but I haven't tested it with the latest version of the Kasa smart plug.?

Hope this helps

Jay

On 6/4/2021 7:58 AM, David Chramcow wrote:

What's the scope of integration that Crestron has with Home Appliances? we have a client that aside from the usual stuff (lighting, shades, climate, audio and video) he wants to integrate as much of the home appliances as well, he mentioned:

* Coffeemakers
* Fridges
* Roombas
* Laundry Machines
* ....

Is this even possible? maybe this can be done using an IoT hub (like the Hubitat) as an interface?

What is your experience with these kind of requests?

Thanks.