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Re: Issues with Sonos & Crestron
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using S2 firmware.,there is a problem? then it is not possible to control it with the crestron version S2 best regards Francisco R. Hernández H. Integration Systems Engineer Sales c:?+52 (04455) 6047.3289 El jue., 1 oct. 2020 a las 13:14, <zac.sparrow@...> escribió: No issues here but using S1 firmware.? |
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Issues with Sonos & Crestron
Have had 3 projects today suddenly lose the ablity for the Crestron to control the volume of Sonos equipment using the official module v.3.1.0.
I know there was a large update to S2 a few days ago which im assuming these projects have auto updated to. Can anybody confirm if they've got issues or if their systems are all good? Thanks |
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Re: Hdmi CEC injection
开云体育We?re doing high end cinemas. With a 200“ screen with 4K@60 4:2:2 you?ll see the difference. For these use cases we always do local attached sources, wouldn?t use NVX for that. The Crestron ?pixel perfect“ is fine for Powerpoint presentations, not for movie content. ? ? For everything around 85“ and below, NVX should be fine. ? Cheers, Thorsten ? Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> Im Auftrag von Lincoln King-Cliby ? FWIW even the 10G solutions do some compression, just at 10G you can to 4K in “mathematically lossless” vs “visually lossless” ? That said, at least for the use cases I’ve seen NVX applied I haven’t seen anything objectionable. Most of the content outside of medical/government/aerospace has already been compressed and decompressed enough times that one more squash can’t really do that much to it. ? There are certainly specific cases (fine detail, sustained rapid changes, etc.) where visually lossless falls apart and mathematically lossless is the way to go – but those usually aren’t involving discussions of CEC ;) -- Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS, DMC-E-4K/T/D ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Thorsten K?hler
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2020 1:05 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [crestron] Hdmi CEC injection ? It does lossy compression, otherwise it wouldn?t be possible to get it over a 1GB link. At least for video content. ? AFAIR it uses MPEG2000. ? Cheers, Thorsten ? ? Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> Im Auftrag von Geoffrey Reynolds ? That's good to hear, but the rest of the DM line still doesn't support it, unfortunately.? This makes it difficult to do things like share an AppleTV 4K with multiple rooms if 1 or more has a Dolby Vision capable display. ? I don't have any experience with the NVX line, and am unlikely to use it in my system.? I've wondered what the NVX solutions do to video quality - whether it truly maintains original quality or uses some form of (even slightly) lossy compression. ? Thanks, Geoff ? On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 11:08 AM Rob <rob@...> wrote:
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Re: Hdmi CEC injection
开云体育FWIW even the 10G solutions do some compression, just at 10G you can to 4K in “mathematically lossless” vs “visually lossless” ? That said, at least for the use cases I’ve seen NVX applied I haven’t seen anything objectionable. Most of the content outside of medical/government/aerospace has already been compressed and decompressed enough times that one more squash can’t really do that much to it. ? There are certainly specific cases (fine detail, sustained rapid changes, etc.) where visually lossless falls apart and mathematically lossless is the way to go – but those usually aren’t involving discussions of CEC ;) -- Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS, DMC-E-4K/T/D ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Thorsten K?hler
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2020 1:05 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [crestron] Hdmi CEC injection ? It does lossy compression, otherwise it wouldn?t be possible to get it over a 1GB link. At least for video content. ? AFAIR it uses MPEG2000. ? Cheers, Thorsten ? ? Von:
[email protected] <[email protected]>
Im Auftrag von Geoffrey Reynolds ? That's good to hear, but the rest of the DM line still doesn't support it, unfortunately.? This makes it difficult to do things like share an AppleTV 4K with multiple rooms if 1 or more has a Dolby Vision capable display. ? I don't have any experience with the NVX line, and am unlikely to use it in my system.? I've wondered what the NVX solutions do to video quality - whether it truly maintains original quality or uses some form of (even slightly) lossy compression. ? Thanks, Geoff ? On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 11:08 AM Rob <rob@...> wrote:
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Re: Hdmi CEC injection
I had a hunch it had to use some sort of lossy compression. Of course, the HDBase-T technology that DM uses doesn't have unlimited bandwidth either.? From what I've read it's limited to 10Gbps or 16Gbps, depending on which generation of the chipset is being used.? It sounds like 16Gbps may allow for uncompressed 4K60 4:4:4 because it doesn't have the 20% overhead that HDMI itself has, but earlier versions of HDBase-T need to use a form of lossy compression to handle 18Gbps signals. Thanks, Geoff On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 1:05 PM Thorsten K?hler <thorsten.koehler@...> wrote:
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Re: Hdmi CEC injection
开云体育It does lossy compression, otherwise it wouldn?t be possible to get it over a 1GB link. At least for video content. ? AFAIR it uses MPEG2000. ? Cheers, Thorsten ? ? Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> Im Auftrag von Geoffrey Reynolds ? That's good to hear, but the rest of the DM line still doesn't support it, unfortunately.? This makes it difficult to do things like share an AppleTV 4K with multiple rooms if 1 or more has a Dolby Vision capable display. ? I don't have any experience with the NVX line, and am unlikely to use it in my system.? I've wondered what the NVX solutions do to video quality - whether it truly maintains original quality or uses some form of (even slightly) lossy compression. ? Thanks, Geoff ? On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 11:08 AM Rob <rob@...> wrote:
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Re: Long_Integer to Integer assignment warning
So I've been running across this NOTICE quite a bit recently and wasn't able to quite track down where this NOTICE was coming from.? It doesn't exactly give you an idea of which module and in programs with tons of modules, its a little difficult.? I finally got a little time to try and track this puppy down and low and behold it is coming from this module:
Media Server Object Router v4.0 (cm) This has been a new one since some sort of update Im sure, but given which databases we can use and which we can't update to yet, has anyone run across this and/or a fix for this?? I wasn't sure if the newer databases have a newer version for this, but I can't exactly update to those databases as it breaks more things than is worth currently. -- Ryan Baldwin CEO | XS Design Studios rbaldwin@... 760.712.2240 |
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Re: Hdmi CEC injection
That's good to hear, but the rest of the DM line still doesn't support it, unfortunately.? This makes it difficult to do things like share an AppleTV 4K with multiple rooms if 1 or more has a Dolby Vision capable display. I don't have any experience with the NVX line, and am unlikely to use it in my system.? I've wondered what the NVX solutions do to video quality - whether it truly maintains original quality or uses some form of (even slightly) lossy compression. Thanks, Geoff On Thu, Oct 1, 2020 at 11:08 AM Rob <rob@...> wrote: Geoff, |
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Re: Control 4 - C4-AMP108 - 16 Channel Amplifier - Quality?
I have an RTI 16i amplifier running my house. I had to use it due to rack space, it’s 16ch, 1RU and 9” deep. Not the greatest of amps but can easily keep you can get them from any distribution that carries RTI these days. |
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Re: Sonos S2 on TSW-xx60 Touch Panels
开云体育Did they announce plans to upgrade the tsw to android 7.0 to fix it or some other type of fix? ? I missed that webinar?
Philip
PJW Installations
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Re: Compile error - must be declared as digital, analog, or serial.
These comments are all very helpful. ?I've gone into the Simpl module. ?There are things in the program that do not connect to the module. ?I think the previous programmer must have upgraded the module when he upgraded the firmware on the TSTAT. ?The existing module does have a force digital and force analog area. ?It looks like there is a separate module for each thermostat. ?I could just add the signals. ?My other thought is to just delete the ambiguous signals. ?
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Re: Compile error - must be declared as digital, analog, or serial.
开云体育Sounds to me like the HVAC module was set to compile only for a Series 2 and not a Series 3.? Try opening the HVAC modules (SIMPL and SIMPL+) and set the compile settings to both Series 2 and Series 3 and then recompile.If worst comes to worst, you can take all those undeclared signals and put force analog or force series or a force digital symbol on them. For SIMPL+, there are some differences between the Series 2 and Series 3.? So you may have to do some rewriting of the code to get them to work on a Series 3.? There are also some cases with SIMPL symbols working slightly differently between the Series 2 and Series 3.? Might be easier just to replace the HVAC module with one that you know works on a Series 3. On 10/1/20 7:47 AM, Bob Baxter via
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I've inherited an existing program written mostly in simpl and runs on an pro2. ?The client want to upgrade the processor to a pro3. ?I swapped out the Pro2 for a Pro 3. ?I directly swiped the processor in SIMPL. ?I'm familiar with the different set up of serial ports. ?When I compile, I get hundreds of errors saying ?"Signal HVAC must be specifically declared as digital, analog, or serial". ?All the error are related to the programming of the TSTATs. ?The program works fine and compiles without a problem on the Pro2. ?When I trace all the signals that are giving the errors they are green in color in the signal list. ?There are 170 different signals that are green causing errors. ?How does one correct this without it taking days or reprogramming? ? |
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Re: Compile error - must be declared as digital, analog, or serial.
开云体育Buffer the green signalsPlease feel free to contact me if you have any questions or if I can help you in any way Have a great day. 631-806-5661
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Re: Compile error - must be declared as digital, analog, or serial.
开云体育Green is ambiguous – the symbol on the other end can take either a serial or analog and the compiler doesn’t have enough information to figure out which you intended it to be. ? A lot of times this is actually due to an underlying dependency that is missing (e.g. a SIMPL+ module inside a .UMC that the USP/USH is missing for) or cascades of analog/serial buffers that at one point the compiler figured out [largely in the order symbols were connected] but when it reevaluated everything as part of the processor swap it just kind of threw up its hands and said “you figure it out” ? If you’re sure you aren’t missing anything, a Analog Force (AFORCE) or Serial Force (SFORCE), as appropriate, connected to the signal will remove the ambiguity. In the case of cascading logic forcing the first signal in the path should take care of all of the down-stream signals but you can individually force them if you prefer to do it that way too. ? -- Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS, DMC-E-4K/T/D ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Bob Baxter via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2020 8:48 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [crestron] Compile error - must be declared as digital, analog, or serial. ? I've inherited an existing program written mostly in simpl and runs on an pro2. ?The client want to upgrade the processor to a pro3. ?I swapped out the Pro2 for a Pro 3. ?I directly swiped the processor in SIMPL. ?I'm familiar with the different set up of serial ports. ?When I compile, I get hundreds of errors saying ?"Signal HVAC must be specifically declared as digital, analog, or serial". ?All the error are related to the programming of the TSTATs. ?The program works fine and compiles without a problem on the Pro2. ?When I trace all the signals that are giving the errors they are green in color in the signal list. ?There are 170 different signals that are green causing errors. ?How does one correct this without it taking days or reprogramming? ? |
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Compile error - must be declared as digital, analog, or serial.
I've inherited an existing program written mostly in simpl and runs on an pro2. ?The client want to upgrade the processor to a pro3. ?I swapped out the Pro2 for a Pro 3. ?I directly swiped the processor in SIMPL. ?I'm familiar with the different set up of serial ports. ?When I compile, I get hundreds of errors saying ?"Signal HVAC must be specifically declared as digital, analog, or serial". ?All the error are related to the programming of the TSTATs. ?The program works fine and compiles without a problem on the Pro2. ?When I trace all the signals that are giving the errors they are green in color in the signal list. ?There are 170 different signals that are green causing errors. ?How does one correct this without it taking days or reprogramming? ?
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