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Re: Best RGBWW controller for led light strip...
开云体育Interesting information, thanks for sharing. I think I need to get an update on the LED stuff ;-) Regarding hardware, i?m doing just residential installations, so most of what you mention seems to be over the top for me. ? ? Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> Im Auftrag von Pixels Bits ? CRI is for the static colors. Not the color combinations that tend towards CRI 80... CRI is also an antiquated methodology for color rendering anyways. IES has adopted TM-30 which has a higher number of color samples for evaluating color accuracy - 18 vs 99. ? In addition, tunable white systems are evaluated based on accuracy to black body curve. Tunable white using CW/WW is tuning color based on color combination of two points on a line - 2700K and 6500K. Lines can’t hit points all points on a curve. In addition, color combinations of 3 primaries and white aren’t color accurate, the guys at Solid state lighting research department at the PNNL have shown that to get any modicum of accuracy along the black body curve you need at least 4 primary colors - like Ketra (RGB+Lime) - the more the better, 7, 9, 12, 24. Sunlight is a combination of multiple wavelengths not just RGB, tech is getting us close to more narrow band control of lighting. ? Commercial meaning Enttec show controllers, ETC, Pharos, Color Kinetics... RDM utilization is killer so SACN is insufficient and you really should be using ArtNet for bidirectional communication. Most downlights I used have iBeacon built in so I can do Bluetooth/RSSI evaluations to know where people are, feedback on thermal output, LED degradation, hour usage... Data data data. There are some chipsets in the process of building in motion sensing based on BLE wave evaluation rather than having to use PIR. You’re talking about true digital light fixtures with firmware upgrades and the ability to have functionalities added to them. ? Exciting times.
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Re: Looking for RS-232 Commands for TV LG OLED C8: Netflix, Amazon Prime, etc.
Thanks you very much, Marty and olivier for your feedback (no pun intended :-);
Hmmm, for some reason my TV does seem to cooperate. Feedback (i.e. response to 'FF") is not working as it should. Here is a portion of the Docklight script log I created during testing:
Signal path is [CP3] - IP - [Digi PortServer TS 8] - RS232 - [C8]. The PortServer has been rock solid for years, controlling all sorts of different AV gear on its 8 ports. I retested with Docklight communicating with the PortServer, instead of the CP3, but got the same poor results. The feedback I receive is reproducible and also not some gibberish, so I believe the physical return channel is OK. Therefore, I suspect the problem resides with the TV itself (firmware? TV should be on the latest one). Is there some setting in some secret service menu I need to activate? I have since opened a ticket with LG support. I am curious to find out what they have to say. Maybe you guys have any more thoughts on this. |
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Re: Best RGBWW controller for led light strip...
开云体育Yes you need a controller on top of a decoder. You need something that’s going to talk DMX on the system so Crestron can control it. Same with DALI... Crestron doesn’t have an integrated DMX master like Medialon does. And also those things do 5 amps across each color... the RGBWW tape light I use consumes 10 W/ft max using all colors meaning which means you can get 12’ off one of the decoders. If you need multiple decoders and they have to have something to manage communication as they can’t all just be masters. On May 31, 2020, at 1:13 PM, Pixels Bits via groups.io <george@...> wrote:
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Re: Best RGBWW controller for led light strip...
开云体育CRI is for the static colors. Not the color combinations that tend towards CRI 80... CRI is also an antiquated methodology for color rendering anyways. IES has adopted TM-30 which has a higher number of color samples for evaluating color accuracy - 18 vs 99. In addition, tunable white systems are evaluated based on accuracy to black body curve. Tunable white using CW/WW is tuning color based on color combination of two points on a line - 2700K and 6500K. Lines can’t hit points all points on a curve. In addition, color combinations of 3 primaries and white aren’t color accurate, the guys at Solid state lighting research department at the PNNL have shown that to get any modicum of accuracy along the black body curve you need at least 4 primary colors - like Ketra (RGB+Lime) - the more the better, 7, 9, 12, 24. Sunlight is a combination of multiple wavelengths not just RGB, tech is getting us close to more narrow band control of lighting. Commercial meaning Enttec show controllers, ETC, Pharos, Color Kinetics... RDM utilization is killer so SACN is insufficient and you really should be using ArtNet for bidirectional communication. Most downlights I used have iBeacon built in so I can do Bluetooth/RSSI evaluations to know where people are, feedback on thermal output, LED degradation, hour usage... Data data data. There are some chipsets in the process of building in motion sensing based on BLE wave evaluation rather than having to use PIR. You’re talking about true digital light fixtures with firmware upgrades and the ability to have functionalities added to them. Exciting times. On May 31, 2020, at 1:13 AM, Thorsten K?hler <thorsten.koehler@...> wrote:
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Re: Forcing Sonos update on a TSW-x60
开云体育Yes you can force an update.? Here are my notes:appupdate sonos (this updates the Sonos app on demand) auenable on (this will update all apps every night, see web gui for time) austatus (this checks the status of the update) ver -v (this reports the versions of all the firmware in the TSW-760) On 5/31/20 10:01 AM, rickwookie via
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Is there a way to force a TSW-x60 to update it's Sonos app without having to wait for the 2am scheduled update? I know I can issue the console command 'appupdate sonos', but as I understand it, that merely enables the 2am schedule without having to launch the Sonos app on the touchscreen first (which also enables it). What I want to do is update the Sonos app now. |
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Re: Bond Bridge
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I already took a look a the API. You are correct that it this was a module for complete seamless integration with a consumer facing product then it would be a real challenge. Since Crestron modules are targeted at professional integrators I was going to make use of their expertise and require them do a little work :-). So they would have to enter some of the curl commands and then the modules (fan, fireplace, and shade) would have parameters where data describing the device would be entered. That would limit the scope of the software but still provide full functionality. The steps an integrator would take would be documented in the help file. That at least is the approach I was thinking of unless I get very ambitious and try to deal with the dynamic content. They may be taking a different stance on Crestron integration since their web site now lists integration with Control4, Elan, SmartThings, Hubitat, and more. ------ Original Message ------
From: "AVMaster" <home@...> To: [email protected] Sent: 5/31/2020 10:56:16 AM Subject: Re: [crestron] Bond Bridge I will post the local API when I get to work on Monday. |
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Re: Bond Bridge
I will post the local API when I get to work on Monday.
A module may be difficult once you see it. Everything is dynamic. First you need a token, then you ask it what devices are connected to it and it responds with a ‘list’ of random number groupings that correspond to them...which are interspersed with other groups of random numbers that don’t mean anything. Once you get to that point you use those device numbers to ask it what functions said device supports...like fan speed 1,2,3 or 1,2,3,4,5,6 and light control, rotation direction etc. I have two fans that respond to a value of ‘0’ to turn them off and two that respond to a specific ‘off’ command. If you are still alive after all of that then armed with the above information you are ready to format your command strings to JSON with proper HTTP headers, fire it off and cross your fingers. If all the juju is correct it will work every single time...its quite a solid and reliable little device. Cool thing is that it will learn any RF remote like AC units or fireplaces as well. I was part of their hardware beta testing a while back and had frequent conversions with their developers and engineers. I repeatedly brought up Crestron integration but it fell on deaf ears. |
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Forcing Sonos update on a TSW-x60
Is there a way to force a TSW-x60 to update it's Sonos app without having to wait for the 2am scheduled update? I know I can issue the console command 'appupdate sonos', but as I understand it, that merely enables the 2am schedule without having to launch the Sonos app on the touchscreen first (which also enables it). What I want to do is update the Sonos app now.
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Re: Best RGBWW controller for led light strip...
开云体育Oh, and to control the Sunricher device you mentioned, you need an additional DMX gateway to be able to control it via Crestron, so that?s on top. ? ? Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> Im Auftrag von Pixels Bits ? Sunricher SR-2108B-M5-5... ? Sunricher is the OEM manufacturer for most LED/color tuning tapelight “manufacturers”. They’re $90 on Amazon. ? RGBWW is trash for tunable white color accuracy. Not accurate to black body curve and for high end troffers and linear based fixtures there are better solutions... just more expensive and you have to hand the chipset to the fixture assembler... or better yet, just do it yourself. ? Also, don’t skimp on the DMX controller. I’ve used the Enttecs and other cheaper solutions and when we are pushing lighting scenes carrying dozens of addresses you get inconsistent response - popcorning, level control issues. Go commercial grade for multiple load control. DMX is our main lighting control infrastructure for everything.
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Re: Anyone have tatasky IP Module
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On Sun, 31 May 2020 at 11:24 AM, Rajat Dwivedi <dwivedi.rajat@...> wrote: Dear all, --
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Re: Best RGBWW controller for led light strip...
开云体育Very interesting. In terms of stripes I?d go for separates as well. You can get CCT-stripes with much better light quality (CRI>90) and lumen as separates compared to combined stripes. ? Could you elaborate a bit on the lights? What products do you use? Also on commercial grade controllers? ? Thanks. ? ? ? Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> Im Auftrag von Pixels Bits ? Sunricher SR-2108B-M5-5... ? Sunricher is the OEM manufacturer for most LED/color tuning tapelight “manufacturers”. They’re $90 on Amazon. ? RGBWW is trash for tunable white color accuracy. Not accurate to black body curve and for high end troffers and linear based fixtures there are better solutions... just more expensive and you have to hand the chipset to the fixture assembler... or better yet, just do it yourself. ? Also, don’t skimp on the DMX controller. I’ve used the Enttecs and other cheaper solutions and when we are pushing lighting scenes carrying dozens of addresses you get inconsistent response - popcorning, level control issues. Go commercial grade for multiple load control. DMX is our main lighting control infrastructure for everything.
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Anyone have tatasky IP Module
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Dear all,
Anyone have tatasky ip module? Thank you. Rajat Dwivedi |
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Re: Best RGBWW controller for led light strip...
开云体育Great — keep us posted on this. ?I’ll also look into the Crestron option. ?I like the idea of the ethernet based on… I was even thinking of using an H801 flash with Tasmota and then just controlling via HTTP — but I’d rather have a more “commercial” solution.?
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Re: Best RGBWW controller for led light strip...
开云体育Sunricher SR-2108B-M5-5... Sunricher is the OEM manufacturer for most LED/color tuning tapelight “manufacturers”. They’re $90 on Amazon. RGBWW is trash for tunable white color accuracy. Not accurate to black body curve and for high end troffers and linear based fixtures there are better solutions... just more expensive and you have to hand the chipset to the fixture assembler... or better yet, just do it yourself. Also, don’t skimp on the DMX controller. I’ve used the Enttecs and other cheaper solutions and when we are pushing lighting scenes carrying dozens of addresses you get inconsistent response - popcorning, level control issues. Go commercial grade for multiple load control. DMX is our main lighting control infrastructure for everything. On May 30, 2020, at 1:43 PM, rickwookie <rickwookie@...> wrote:
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