Re: Simpl# / Simpl#Pro - Noob looking for guidance

#235408

Would this be the time to try out the CH5 solution rather than going back in time? And the new processors run Linux so no limitation with vs2008. Just a thought, I'm just starting to learn programming myself

Wireless control with Zoom rooms

#235407

Hey everyone, I'm working on 2 exec conference rooms and am hoping for a wireless solution for room /Zoom control. I had spec'd the TST-902 as they had a Crestron wireless panel in there for 15 years and were happy with it other than the battery failing eventually. But I've been told the TST won't work with Zoom and now I'm stuck for a good solution. I'm wondering about an ipad, and if you've had luck going this way.
We will be doing zoom video and tying into SIP for audio conferencing.

Appreciate any thoughts you have

Re: TPS-6X microswitches

#235406

Not able to see it on the network and it is a replacement unit so it hasn't been connected to the gateway yet.

Re: Simpl# / Simpl#Pro - Noob looking for guidance

#235405

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For those of you looking to find a framework that solves a large number of the initial hurdles I’d working in SIMPL#Pro, check out our open source repos at?

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On May 27, 2020, at 4:50 AM, web@... wrote:

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Simpl# requires visual studio 2008. ?If you look hard enough you can still find vs2008 available for download. ?I believe that’s because 2008 is the last version that supports .NET compact framework 3.5 which is what the 3 series processors run on.?

I’m a relative newcomer to simpl# and I’ve never used c# before but if you have any object oriented language background you should pick it up pretty well. ?It’s by far the most flexible way to program a crestron processor.?

The hardest part for me is that many libraries which you would normally be able to use in c# are not backwards compatible with the old 3.5 compact frame work so I am writing code from the ground up. ?For example I’ve just been writing code to decode PEM encoded public rsa keys. In c# I could just use an already written library instead of writing the code myself. ??

It’s a good mental challenge for an occasional coder like myself.?

On 27 May 2020, at 8:12 pm, "codefree@..." <codefree@...> wrote:

?Does simpl# still require some? microsoft framework underneath, that is practically not available anymore ?

K.

Re: Samsung Ethernet Control

#235404

I will try that. Thanks

Re: Simpl# / Simpl#Pro - Noob looking for guidance

#235403

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Simpl# requires visual studio 2008. ?If you look hard enough you can still find vs2008 available for download. ?I believe that’s because 2008 is the last version that supports .NET compact framework 3.5 which is what the 3 series processors run on.?

I’m a relative newcomer to simpl# and I’ve never used c# before but if you have any object oriented language background you should pick it up pretty well. ?It’s by far the most flexible way to program a crestron processor.?

The hardest part for me is that many libraries which you would normally be able to use in c# are not backwards compatible with the old 3.5 compact frame work so I am writing code from the ground up. ?For example I’ve just been writing code to decode PEM encoded public rsa keys. In c# I could just use an already written library instead of writing the code myself. ??

It’s a good mental challenge for an occasional coder like myself.?

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On 27 May 2020, at 8:12 pm, "codefree@..." <codefree@...> wrote:

?Does simpl# still require some? microsoft framework underneath, that is practically not available anymore ?

K.

Re: RS 232 to a ViewSonic projector from a 2 series serial port???

#235402

OK Problem solved.? The projector requires a null cable between it and the processor but the AVR does not.

I don't know if the additional un-needed connections would interfere because my adapter is only 2,3 and 5.

This explains why the Projector worked on the ST-PC but the AVR did not and visa-versa on the Pro2.

Thanks.? I thought I was losing it at 64.

In a message dated 5/26/2020 11:27:09 AM Eastern Standard Time, philblavins@... writes:

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To add to the previous answer: if you have time it's worth making up a null modem cable with just TX, RX and Ground and keeping it in your bag, along with some basic gender changers using TX RX and ground only. I think it's also worth having a USB to serial adapter if your laptop doesnt have a serial port so you can check the commands are coming through as they should.

Phil

On Tue, 26 May 2020 at 16:08, Lincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@...> wrote:

Definitely try using a cable with only the correct pins connected. Also try flipping pins 2 and 3 (or use a null modem adaptor to try this) e.g. try both 2-2 / 3-3 and 2-3 / 3-2 since I’ve seen the ST-CP -> DB9 cables wire TX and RX both ways.

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The 2-series DB9 pinout is non-standard and includes RS422 pins in places where a standard DB9 would have flow control pins; this can definitely confuse devices looking for DTR/DSR. If after only wiring 2/3/5 you can try also connecting RTS/CTS or shorting RTS to CTS and DTR to DSR on the projector end of things (pins 7/8 and 4/6 respectively)

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See OLH 1634 for the exact pinouts on the Crestron side of things.

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of stefuel2 via
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2020 6:21 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [crestron] RS 232 to a ViewSonic projector from a 2 series serial port???

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I'm using a off the shelf straight through cable that ohms out correctly (all 9 pins) and I can't get the projector to respond.? Same program from a ST-CP using a modular connector on one end (6P-6C but only 5 wires) and DB-9 and it responds perfectly.? I do remember reading years ago that "SOME" devices may have problems with the connection of all 9 pins from Crestrons "non standard" port.? I'm going to isolate 2,3 and 5 and try again.? This is the first time this has happened to me.? Even my first attempt at serial control worked perfectly the first time.

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Re: Simpl# / Simpl#Pro - Noob looking for guidance

#235401

Does simpl# still require some? microsoft framework underneath, that is practically not available anymore ?

K.

IP control of Christie access series display

#235400

Hi,

I'm having some issues controlling some christie Access series screens over IP. I've been trying the roomview connected display module but get no response from the screens and no feedback, even though it shows as connected in my IP table. I only really need power on/off so looking to switch to using a simple TCP/IP client and sending the correct strings.

Has anyone controlled these screens over IP before and, if so, is there anything I should watch out for? I had issues with Vestels using Extron because they changed their protocol to need an admin login to be sent after power loss but not sure if these will be the same.

Alternatively, if anyone knows where I can get a? module from for these screens I'd be very grateful!

Thanks,

Phil

Re: Yamaha AVRs

#235399

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OK, cold start of the Yamaha fixed the problem….

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Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> Im Auftrag von Thorsten K?hler
Gesendet: Montag, 25. Mai 2020 22:52
An: [email protected]
Betreff: Re: [crestron] Yamaha AVRs

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Well, a few days after writing that, i?ve got an issue with a customer who has recently replaced his CA-X5100 with a CA-X5200.

Auto feedback is not working anymore after a program update and it?s not responding to vol+ / vol-.

It works for one button press, but then no more.

I can issue request commands (power state, mute state, etc.) and I get a response.

I also issue a @SYS:MODELNAME=? frequently to keep the connection alive.

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Any ideas where to look at?....

Regards, Thorsten

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Von: Thorsten K?hler <thorsten.koehler@...>
Gesendet: Sonntag, 17. Mai 2020 19:54
An: '[email protected]' <[email protected]>
Betreff: AW: [crestron] Yamaha AVRs

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Yep, that?s what i?m using as well.

Simple and straightforward.

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Regards, Thorsten

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Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> Im Auftrag von rickwookie
Gesendet: Sonntag, 17. Mai 2020 19:40
An: [email protected]
Betreff: Re: [crestron] Yamaha AVRs

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Have a look at the Yamaha (“it’s fun to stay at the...”) YNCA protocol.

I think this is what the modules use, simple TCP client to port 50000. No messing about constructing HTTP GET headers as with MusicCast.

Re: Crestron SIMPL Program and Fusion Server Communication #crestron

#235398
Edited

Thank you for the suggestions, then I think it's not possible to change room names dynamically and go with the methods you guys suggested.

Re: Samsung Ethernet Control

#235397

QB Series is Crestron Connected.? Try that and see if that will work for you.

Re: Simpl# / Simpl#Pro - Noob looking for guidance

#235396

Justin,
?Yes you can absolutely use Simpl# to do this. Just use a 3-series intersystems communication to control Simpl Windows if Simpl# doesn't have the equipment you want to control.

Re: DIN-CENCN-2(-POE) anyone used it? I'm not impressed!

#235395

Not sure what you are having problems.? What are you using to program the system:? D3PRO, SIMPL, or Crestron Home/Pyng/OS3?

Overall I have been pleased with the DIN-CENCN-2 however some of the advance features, such as going in and adjusting the dimmer curve of a CLX-dimmer does not work (at least at the time).? But full disclosure, I have only programmed them in SIMPL.? It was very easy to change the Cresnet ID.? Just drag and drop in the like any other device in configure view in SIMPL.

It has been a couple of years now I guess.? At the time, D3PRO did not yet support the DIN-DIN-CENCN-2 and well ... Crestron Home didn't even exist yet. In fact, Crestron said it the project was too big for D3PRO even without the DIN-CENCH-2.? Even if it was supported, I didn't really trust D3PRO to handle such large project given its quirks.

It that system, we had 4 of them and used them for all the keypads in the house (~80 keypads).? We used the DIN-CENCN-2 mainly to improve the response time for the keypads as keypads are fast poll devices and having them all on one Cresnet would probably be too sluggish.? Dimmer modules are slow poll devices so we put them all on the PRO3 Cresnet as speed wasn't essential.? But because of the number of Dimmer modules (something like 60), we used a DIN-HUB for the dimmer modules.

One of DIN-CENCN-2 was in the Cabana.? For fear of lightning damage and because the distance was something like 500ft., we used a pair of NVX-351s with fiber link to the Cabana TV and used the Ethernet from the NVX to get Ethernet to Cabana.? The Cabana had a couple of Dimmer modules too so they were were also on the same DIN-CENCN-2. That is how we discovered the the DIN-CENCN-2 did not support the advance settings in the CLX-dimmers.

All the other systems I have done where small enough were the DIN-CENCN-2 was not needed.

Steve

Re: DIN-CENCN-2(-POE) anyone used it? I'm not impressed!

#235394

Legend.? Thanks for that.? I had seen that and tried but couldnt get it to work but I was just formatting my commands incorrectly.?

I stupidly assumed that you would be able to set ids like you normally would in toolbox.? ?

Thanks again.?

Simpl# / Simpl#Pro - Noob looking for guidance

#235393

Hi,

Looking for guidance, thoughts...

I'm thinking of rewriting the code for my Home Crestron System and in the process learn to use Simpl#Pro and OOP (I'm a C programmer but I've only dabbled in object oriented languages - so this might sharpen the saw).? I was looking at Simpl# Libraries but can't say I'm too wild about using Simpl+ as an intermediary between Simpl# and SimplWindows.? So I'd really like to be able to rewrite this primarily using Simpl#Pro and maybe some SimplWindows as necessary.? However, my home system has some older equipment that I don't think is in the object model; PAD8, CNAMPX-12x60s, C2N-TFM, CNX-B12 (I also have CT-1000s that I don't currently use - I mainly use iPads).? I do have EX Lighting and Thermostats that are part of the object model.? So given the older equipment, is there still some way to control this equipment from Simpl#Pro or am I relegated to Simpl# => Simpl+ => SimplWin? ??

Other Info:
MC3 Controller
I'm not currently using smart controls (I have custom graphics that I like, so want to continue old style for now).
Currently using Simpl+ to control a Synology Media Player and some other misc. functions.

Thanks,
Justin

Re: DIN-CENCN-2(-POE) anyone used it? I'm not impressed!

#235392

In console?

Help all

REPORTCRESNEt 1 or 2?

this reports devices attached?

EX??

DIN-CENCN-2-POE>REPORTCRESNEt 1

1.11: C2N-IRGWF Wall mount IR gateway:Flush [v1.00.16,#013A23E6] Jul ?7 2016
1.12: C2N-IRGWF Wall mount IR gateway:Flush [v1.00.16,#013A23E8] Jul ?7 2016
1.13: C2N-IRGWF Wall mount IR gateway:Flush [v1.00.16,#013A23E9] Jul ?7 2016
1.14: C2N-IRGWF Wall mount IR gateway:Flush [v1.00.16,#013A23E7] Jul ?7 2016

Get your ids..

RPRTCRESNETIDBYPP ? ? ?Report by PPN ID? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ??

RPRTPPNBYCRESNETI ? ? ?Report by Cnet ID? ? ? ? ??

RPRTCRESNETIDBYPP [Branch Id] [Ppn Id]

Branch Id - 1, 2, 3 ... n
Ppn Id - 4 Byte Hex Id

IE :: Report Either ID's with the above commands?

it will return a device id NN

so copy into console?

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SETCRESNETIDBYPPn ? ? ?Set cresnet ID by PPN ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
SETPPNBYCRESNETId ? ? ?Set PPN by cresnet ID? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?'

SETPPNBYCRESNETID [Branch Id] [Cnet Id] [Ppn Id]
Branch Id - 1, 2, 3 ... n
Cnet Id - 0x03, 0x04 ... 0xFE
Ppn Id - 4 Byte Hex Id

So Reportcresnet?

then Get ppnby?cresnet ID? ( RPRTPPNBYCRESNETI?1 CnetId ppn)

then Ser ppnby?cresnet id? ( SETPPNBYCRESNETID 1 Cnetid PPN

cheers?

j

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On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 6:37 PM Bambam_101 <wiredhometechnologies@...> wrote:

Any idea how to change cresnet id's of devices connected to this unit?? There is nothing in the web gui or sys info that I can find that will allow me to change cresnet id's.??

Re: DIN-CENCN-2(-POE) anyone used it? I'm not impressed!

#235391

Any idea how to change cresnet id's of devices connected to this unit?? There is nothing in the web gui or sys info that I can find that will allow me to change cresnet id's.??

Bosh CCU System

#235390

Has anyone controlled a Bosch CCU system via IP or RS-232?
I am really looking for Mic control and feedback.
Thanks

Re: CH5 - Help - using Contract editor....... #crestron

#235389

has anyone made this work in simpl??? i haven't seen the? digital or serial joins work from the above code.?