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Re: Preference for Mini PC for "jump" box

 

Can you please send me an information-email as well?
I?m coming from corporate IT, but am now moving to residential clients. So your box could definitely be helpful with "more relaxed" IT environments :-)

Regards, Thorsten

Am 04.02.2020 20:03:50 schrieb Martin Szmulewicz via Groups.Io <crestron.uruguay@...>:

Bruce, i've just sent you an email too.

I forgot to answer about if it was already deployed or in development.
It is running right now, i have quite a few boxes already out there, which i also monitor and get email notifications if something is down (which i forgot to mention).
The VPN works, remote connection, and the wifi client to gain internet from anybody's mobile too.
Which i plan on add soon is to have some sort of software run on a laptop to do this same thing without having to have a real fisical device there. It just happened a few times (not so often thou) that the tech in place didn't have the box with him, or even runing this software on my clients computer so i could give support but without having to run any crestron or whichever brands software on his computer, but just to act as a gateway to my personal computer. (i'm not sure if i had explained this successfuly, sorry for that. if not clear just say so and i try to rewrite).

anyway, here are my two cents for the whole discussion on the PC for "jump" box. I have develped my own boxes :)

Cheers everybody!


Re: Sonos - Playbar & TV - how to control?

 

Can can swap to tv input through an HTTP post. It is not part of the standard crestron module.


Re: Preference for Mini PC for "jump" box

 

Bruce, i've just sent you an email too.

I forgot to answer about if it was already deployed or in development.
It is running right now, i have quite a few boxes already out there, which i also monitor and get email notifications if something is down (which i forgot to mention).
The VPN works, remote connection, and the wifi client to gain internet from anybody's mobile too.
Which i plan on add soon is to have some sort of software run on a laptop to do this same thing without having to have a real fisical device there. It just happened a few times (not so often thou) that the tech in place didn't have the box with him, or even runing this software on my clients computer so i could give support but without having to run any crestron or whichever brands software on his computer, but just to act as a gateway to my personal computer. (i'm not sure if i had explained this successfuly, sorry for that. if not clear just say so and i try to rewrite).

anyway, here are my two cents for the whole discussion on the PC for "jump" box. I have develped my own boxes :)

Cheers everybody!


Re: Preference for Mini PC for "jump" box

pearce.bruce
 

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Hi Martin?

Can you please include me in the information about your system . I do residential system so don¡¯t have the same ?headache with the IT department?

Regards

Bruce

On 4 Feb 2020, at 18:26, Martin Szmulewicz via Groups.Io <crestron.uruguay@...> wrote:

?Mike and Jason, i'll send you out an email.

And to all, yes, i'm aware of the downsides of mine and others solutions. This is an outbound connection which is probably not liked or even allowed on businesses.
I've developed this more for residential clients or some corporate clients but where my gear is off-network (we have our own stand-alone network disconnected from everything else, including internet).
I also agree that for corporate you/we have to sit down with the IT dpt and figure out the best way to deal with it.
I have a customer where the only option is to go fisically there. Then another where our gear is on a vlan similar to the guests network which has internet but isolated from corporate data.
Etc.

Anyway, i'd be happy to learn better ways and also how to face corp clients.

Cheers!!


Re: Preference for Mini PC for "jump" box

 

Mike and Jason, i'll send you out an email.

And to all, yes, i'm aware of the downsides of mine and others solutions. This is an outbound connection which is probably not liked or even allowed on businesses.
I've developed this more for residential clients or some corporate clients but where my gear is off-network (we have our own stand-alone network disconnected from everything else, including internet).
I also agree that for corporate you/we have to sit down with the IT dpt and figure out the best way to deal with it.
I have a customer where the only option is to go fisically there. Then another where our gear is on a vlan similar to the guests network which has internet but isolated from corporate data.
Etc.

Anyway, i'd be happy to learn better ways and also how to face corp clients.

Cheers!!


Re: Sonos - Playbar & TV - how to control?

 

If the soundbar is only being used for TV sound then just control it via IR.? I don't think there isn't any way to select the optical input from Crestron, anyways.


Key West Media BRZ-4T-/HP

 

Has anyone controlled a Key West media player from Crestron?? Specifically the BRZ-4T/HP.? I cannot find any documentation for this thing.


Sonos - Playbar & TV - how to control?

 

the client has 2 amps with subs i.e. Front/Rear (this is in an RV)
i have grouped them and used the group controls in the module - works OK (volume doesn't display properly)

he has a TV with an optical cable to a Sonos playbar (just for the TV)
in the app he selects TV as the source (is there any way i can do that?)
if we select a multi-channel source (Netflix) we get sound out of all the speakers, but i can't control the volume/mute from Crestron
if we select a 2-channel source we have a sync problem with the audio from the sound bar & the other speakers

?mark


Re: V15 on DGE-2 "fading out"

 

Good to know, unfortunately or fortunately as the case may be it seems like we'll be retiring this DGE2 a little bit faster than expected.

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Sent: Monday, February 03, 2020 10:31 PM
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Subject: Re: [crestron] V15 on DGE-2 "fading out"

Believe it or not this is exactly how the V12 from my previous post bit the dust. It got dimmer and dimmer until it went dark. It would cycle through this process at various degrees of intensity and frequency and finally just went off in the corn field and never came back.


Re: V15 on DGE-2 "fading out"

 

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Yep, that¡¯s why I think it¡¯s the D or M cable or the panel itself going

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I don¡¯t think the V15 has an ambient light sensor and unfortunately being a DM panel it¡¯s not exactly possible to try something other than the DGE-2 to drive it with what the client has on site.

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of dustinwalker50 via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2020 10:07 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [crestron] V15 on DGE-2 "fading out"

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I haven't seen anything like this. Typically if the DGE fails, it fails hard. My guess would be the screen (could have ambient light sensor enabled, etc). Try a different source on the same input of the display to see if the problem persists.


Setting the multicast address of a DM-NVX-350 using Script Manager of Toolbox #crestron

 

Is there a command to set or change the multicast address of a DM-NVX-350 and set it in Transmitter mode using Script Manager of Toolbox?


Re: Preference for Mini PC for "jump" box

 

Hi,
last time i checked, there were also devices with a LAN port available (wired RAP). But the Arubas were only an example.
Sometimes they are called "VPN boxes" or "VPN gateways" - basically a box you connect with the remote LAN and then it call home to the preconfigured VPN server.
But it?s true, most of them are not cheap and hard to configured, especially on the server side.?

The problem i see with all these solutions (inlcuding Martin?s): the corporate networks i know would block unknown devices from calling home, best move them automatically to a guest LAN (e.g. for BYOD) where you need to register first and with very limited internal connectivity.
So you need to deal with the IT dep. anyway.?

Am 03.02.2020 21:37:56 schrieb Jeremy Weatherford <jweather@...>:

The product you linked to is a Wireless Access Point that establishes a VPN back to a central wireless controller, intended for branch offices or telecommuters connecting to an enterprise network.? Not relevant to AV remote access that I can tell.

On Mon, Feb 3, 2020 at 2:45 PM Thorsten K?hler <thorsten.koehler@...> wrote:
These kind of devices are usually called "remote access points" and are available for quite some time now.

What distinguishes your solution from solutions like e.g. this one? =>?

(it?s not meant to be "know-all", i?m really curious)

Regards, Thorsten


Re: DMPS-300-C IR IN port question

 

?It is much more complex than that.


Re: V15 on DGE-2 "fading out"

 

?Believe it or not this is exactly how the V12 from my previous post bit the dust. It got dimmer and dimmer until it went dark. It would cycle through this process at various degrees of intensity and frequency and finally just went off in the corn field and never came back.


Re: V15 on DGE-2 "fading out"

 

I haven't seen anything like this. Typically if the DGE fails, it fails hard. My guess would be the screen (could have ambient light sensor enabled, etc). Try a different source on the same input of the display to see if the problem persists.


DMPS-300-C IR IN port question

 

I am wondering if I could connect an IR receiver into the IR IN port. Would this then pass the received IR signals directly to the IR outputs, essentially working as an IR extender for anything in the rack I can stick an IR bud to? Or is it much more complex than that?


Re: Preference for Mini PC for "jump" box

 

Martin, I would also like more info on your product, if it's ready to deploy or still in development.? It makes sense that your described solution is not "off the shelf" as I wasn't aware of boxes that did what you are describing.

Yes, business are blocking some of the remote access software now days.? Randomly seeing TeamViewer blocked the most.? Some places are also blocking file sharing sites like Dropbox and Box making sending revisions to tech's a bit more difficult as well if they are operating off the client network.? I have Tech's that I work with that we've had to try several different software to get a connection going, first TeamViewer, if that's blocked, then RemotePC, if that is blocked, then Bomguard or AnyDesk, or UltraViewer or...?? I had to start researching different options from TeamViewer a couple years ago when I started running into more sites that had it blocked.? Now I have several options to use, and usually the lesser known ones aren't blocked (yet).


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Re: Atem KVM Switch

 

thank you


V15 on DGE-2 "fading out"

 

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This isn¡¯t something I¡¯ve seen myself but rather something a (highly technically inclined) end-user client is relating from a not-so-technically inclined but VIP end user of theirs.

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The user spends a few hours a day in front of a V15 being driven from a DGE2 that was commissioned 3-4 years ago and no prior complaints. Around a week ago the user reported that occasionally (randomly but frequently enough to be annoying) the V15 was going blank.

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With that level of detail it sounded to me like a ¡°D¡± cable issue and asked the client to check both the D and M for integrity and/or a loose connection (there¡¯s one patch point and the run is ~25¡¯ total)

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Today I got more detail that rather than just cutting out it¡¯s a slow fade out and then ¡°snapping back¡± to ?full brightness and the frequency is increasing.

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Now I¡¯m starting to suspect the panel itself is failing (possibly the backlight inverter ¨C not sure if the V15 is fluorescent or LED back-lit)

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The client is ordering a TS-1542-C to have on hand as a spare generally, and specifically to replace the DGE/V15 if it comes to it ¡­ but in the interim¡­ anyone seen this?

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Lincoln

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ControlWorks Consulting, LLC |
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Re: Preference for Mini PC for "jump" box

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Hi Martin,

I would like to get information about your product. I will also be attending ISE.

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What we do is use an IoT mini PC with an USB HDMI capture device and have control software to allows us to operate the matrix. One of the outputs of the matrix is connected to the capture device.

Here is a video showing the software.

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We have found that a lot of businesses and Universities are now blocking programs like TeamViewer and AnyDesk from running on their campus. Best to work out a VPN access with them on their network. Putting any tunneling device on their network without them knowing of it would be very bad idea. Also placing open Windows PCs does not go over very well either. We use Windows IoT with an open User account that is very restrictive and does not allow any unauthorized programs to run. The User account can only run the control and video window software. A password protected Admin account is setup to run any program.

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We have also done this with Crestron by using the same mini PC running a capture device with a program called ShareView to display selected sources and size the video on the screen. All of the Crestron equipment and all other room equipment are on the second NIC of the PC. Still allowing for one network drop. We then can run XPanel on the PC to operate the room. ??

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Mike

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Martin Szmulewicz via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, 3 February, 2020 12:56 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [crestron] Preference for Mini PC for "jump" box

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@mike Slattery?
for video streaming you mean a couple of webcams so the programmer can see what's going on on the place? or what video do you stream?

To the rest, actually i've developed that solution and i'm comercializing it, at least here around to a couple of clients and other companies. Yet is a mouth to mouth solution for which i haven't done any website, brochure, etc.

Basically it is a device that has a wan port, which you connect to the same network that your device is connected to.
If that network has internet, then we're done. If not, you can give internet to the box with your own cellphone, creating an access point with a predefined ssid and pwd.
(it also has lan ports in case there is no router or dhcp server and create a network on the go).
As it creates an outbound connection (vpn client), nothing has to be set on the network. The only exception is where a strong firewall is in place that won't allow outbound vpn connections (L2TP/Ipsec).
I have a VPN server that handles all the connections and the tunneling.
Then you just connect ("dial"?) your computer to this vpn server with certain credentials. Those credentials are the ones that identifies to which client you get connected.
Afterwards, you just can ping/connect/telnet/toolbox/http/etc whichever device IP you want at your clients networks as if your computer was wired there.
The only thing i haven't tried yet is network discovery or so, i'm not sure about that. But if you know its ip or you can specify the ip range to query, then its done.
I can just open a web at 192.168.0.240 or connect toolbox to 192.168.10.50, or whatever service on whatever ip.


Cheers ;)

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