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Re: Vtpro-e or Windows (saving a file with version number no longer works)

 

Use a dash 1-1, 1-2.

--- In Crestron@..., "avsystemdesign" <avsystemdesign@...> wrote:

I'm not sure if this is a Vtpro-e thing or Windows...
I normally save a new file as v1.1, followed by v1.2 etc.
But, Vtpro-e won't do that anymore, it does not see the .2 for example, so instead it saves it as v1 (which can for obvious reason wreck havoc).

Anyone come across this? Is there a patch or workaround?
Re: Vtpro-e or Windows (saving a file with version number no longer works)

 

Don't save as in VTP, copy and rename? :)

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Commercial Market Director
Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Silver)
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
V: 440.449.1100 x1107 | F: 440.449.1106 | I:
Crestron Services Provider

-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of avsystemdesign
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 3:07 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Re: Vtpro-e or Windows (saving a file with version number no longer works)

This has to be a Vtpro-e thing, as Simpl Windows still lets me save version numbers. For some very strange reason Vtpro-e cuts off any file name characters after the period. WTF!?

--- In Crestron@..., "avsystemdesign" <avsystemdesign@...> wrote:

I'm not sure if this is a Vtpro-e thing or Windows...
I normally save a new file as v1.1, followed by v1.2 etc.
But, Vtpro-e won't do that anymore, it does not see the .2 for example, so instead it saves it as v1 (which can for obvious reason wreck havoc).

Anyone come across this? Is there a patch or workaround?



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Re: Vtpro-e or Windows (saving a file with version number no longer works)

 

This has to be a Vtpro-e thing, as Simpl Windows still lets me save version numbers. For some very strange reason Vtpro-e cuts off any file name characters after the period. WTF!?

--- In Crestron@..., "avsystemdesign" <avsystemdesign@...> wrote:

I'm not sure if this is a Vtpro-e thing or Windows...
I normally save a new file as v1.1, followed by v1.2 etc.
But, Vtpro-e won't do that anymore, it does not see the .2 for example, so instead it saves it as v1 (which can for obvious reason wreck havoc).

Anyone come across this? Is there a patch or workaround?
Vtpro-e or Windows (saving a file with version number no longer works)

 

I'm not sure if this is a Vtpro-e thing or Windows...
I normally save a new file as v1.1, followed by v1.2 etc.
But, Vtpro-e won't do that anymore, it does not see the .2 for example, so instead it saves it as v1 (which can for obvious reason wreck havoc).

Anyone come across this? Is there a patch or workaround?
Re: The extended ASCII codes in 3-series

Andy A
 

Using a Crestron send email module or home-made?

--- In Crestron@..., Kool-Aid Drinker <herald@...> wrote:

I'm getting emails from a proc with 1.7.14. Haven't tried the
current-release 1.7.19, and don't have one I can update at the moment.

On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 15:47:24 -0000, "Andy A" <aandrea@...>
wrote:

So if I am reading correctly...you have been able to get a 3-series processor to send an
email message? Ever since I upgraded firmware to the latest available (as of a week or so
ago) my email has been non-existent. Any help/guidance you could provide would be greatly
appreciated!

--- In Crestron@..., Kool-Aid Drinker <herald@> wrote:

If you look at the full headers or "source" of a 2-series email,
you'll see a Content-type: header with a specific char set.

Compare 3-series.

With no char set designated, a 3-series email is at the mercy of email
reading program, OS internationalization, etc. Results WILL vary.

Complain to True Blue. As the basis of the email sender, they used a
free C# library that was known to have issues, but didn't apply any of
the readily available fixes.

On Sun, 9 Jun 2013 18:12:02 +0200, "kabza" <kabzaa@> wrote:

It is not for panel. It is for -e-mail message. Here is my simpl+ code that
is working well in 2-series but in 3-series degree sign is not show.



message$ = date(1)+" "+time()+" - Temperature is "+ Temp$ + " &#92;xB0C";



Here is e-mail message:



06/09/2013 17:22:15 - Temperature is 35.0 ?C



Regards



From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf
Of Lincoln King-Cliby
Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2013 5:55 PM
To: 'Crestron@...'
Subject: RE: [Crestron] The extended ASCII codes in 3-series





What panel are you using?

It's likely not a control system issue, but a panel issue.

If it's a TSW... this was working early on, broken in firmware and reported
quite a while ago, and AFAIK still not fixed (though it's been a few weeks
since I've had time to play with it)

Lincoln
Re: The extended ASCII codes in 3-series

Kool-Aid Drinker
 

I'm getting emails from a proc with 1.7.14. Haven't tried the
current-release 1.7.19, and don't have one I can update at the moment.

On Mon, 10 Jun 2013 15:47:24 -0000, "Andy A" <aandrea@...>
wrote:

So if I am reading correctly...you have been able to get a 3-series processor to send an
email message? Ever since I upgraded firmware to the latest available (as of a week or so
ago) my email has been non-existent. Any help/guidance you could provide would be greatly
appreciated!

--- In Crestron@..., Kool-Aid Drinker <herald@...> wrote:

If you look at the full headers or "source" of a 2-series email,
you'll see a Content-type: header with a specific char set.

Compare 3-series.

With no char set designated, a 3-series email is at the mercy of email
reading program, OS internationalization, etc. Results WILL vary.

Complain to True Blue. As the basis of the email sender, they used a
free C# library that was known to have issues, but didn't apply any of
the readily available fixes.

On Sun, 9 Jun 2013 18:12:02 +0200, "kabza" <kabzaa@...> wrote:

It is not for panel. It is for -e-mail message. Here is my simpl+ code that
is working well in 2-series but in 3-series degree sign is not show.



message$ = date(1)+" "+time()+" - Temperature is "+ Temp$ + " &#92;xB0C";



Here is e-mail message:



06/09/2013 17:22:15 - Temperature is 35.0 ?C



Regards



From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf
Of Lincoln King-Cliby
Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2013 5:55 PM
To: 'Crestron@...'
Subject: RE: [Crestron] The extended ASCII codes in 3-series





What panel are you using?

It's likely not a control system issue, but a panel issue.

If it's a TSW... this was working early on, broken in firmware and reported
quite a while ago, and AFAIK still not fixed (though it's been a few weeks
since I've had time to play with it)

Lincoln
Re: Another samsung ex-link question

 

PRO2

On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Oliver <oliver@...> wrote:

Jeremy

Was that at 3 series job?

--- In Crestron@..., Jeremy Weatherford <jweather@...> wrote:

FYI, we ran across a TV last week (UN46ES7500F) that would only respond
to
"off" commands from a 1-way 232 port, not from a full COM port. Maybe
EX-Link expects TTL levels and gets overdriven by standard 232? No idea,
this is the first time I've seen this, but then we usually have these on
1-way 232 ports anyway...



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Re: Circular D-pad? Non-Core3

jmacd2918
 

Great suggestions, just what I needed to bust my brain out of the box. honestly, the thought of putting buttons [i]over[/i] the graphic never occurred to me.

I think I'm going to create an animation, that sounds like the easiest plan.

Thank you both.

--- In Crestron@..., Eric Williams <ewilliams0305@...> wrote:

I use an animation with the (6) states. I overlay the 5 transparent buttons onto the animation. Unit an analog value from each button press to drive the animation to the state you want. Then I use a nor from the 5 buttons to drive the animation back to its resting state. Works great and alot easier than lining up buttons.

-----Original Message-----
From: "Nick Mitchell" <nick@...>
Sent: ?€?6/?€?10/?€?2013 7:40 AM
To: "Crestron@..." <Crestron@...>
Subject: Re: [Crestron] Circular D-pad? Non-Core3

That's pretty much how I do it. Circle graphic with rectangle buttons
overlaying it. I do each direction and select in the middle. I put a little
green or red icon in the middle of each direction to light up as feedback.
Kind of simulating an led.

Nick

Sent from my eMail.

On Jun 10, 2013, at 6:22 AM, jmacd2918 <jmacd2918@...> wrote:



I'm trying to figure out the best way to use a circular d-pad in a
non-core3 system. Think something like what's on a Roku remote:


I can build the graphics no problem, it's a matter of layout in Vision
Tools.

This is being done for both aesthetics and to fit better on the page, so
the issue of button overlap is really what I'm trying to overcome,
especially since it's a curved graphic (button to the user) in a
rectangular button (non-existent from the user point of view).

Is there a good way to do this?
Use blank buttons or borders to mask areas where there is overlap? Seems
like a major kludge, but it should work. I'm hoping I'm just overlooking a
better way to do this.

Thanks for any input.

-Jeff MacDonald
AV Coordinator
Johnson Graduate School of Management
Cornell University




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Re: BACNET question

Tres
 

They will point to you. You do not need their IP address.



tres





From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf
Of p00pb0t
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 1:22 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] BACNET question





So I am doing my first BACNET integration. I have the address of the HVAC
guys BACNET router and I am waiting on Crestron's email with my 50+ license
on my MC3. While I am waiting I am playing with the BACNET symbols. However
I am not seeing where I would enter the IP address of the BACNET router so
the Crestron will communicate to the HVAC guys equipment. Am I missing it
somewhere?



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BACNET question

 

So I am doing my first BACNET integration. I have the address of the HVAC guys BACNET router and I am waiting on Crestron's email with my 50+ license on my MC3. While I am waiting I am playing with the BACNET symbols. However I am not seeing where I would enter the IP address of the BACNET router so the Crestron will communicate to the HVAC guys equipment. Am I missing it somewhere?
Re: New iOS App?

 

Hey Crestron, great job on the new app! I've been experimenting with it for the last few hours and find it to be a huge upgrade from the old version. I "save-as"ed some TSW-750 projects to the iPhone 5 app and they are surprisingly usable! I'm not doing a lot of stuff with the Smart Objects and Apps, but the regular stuff works just as well or better than the TSW.

My only complaint would be about the in-app upgrade method, makes it difficult to deploy commercially and educationally. I understand this has a lot do do with Apple. Should work fine for residential customers.

I finally enjoy doing iOS projects!
Re: Streaming Radio Question

Joe Hostyn
 

Brilliant, worked for a couple of stations, now lets see how long the URL's last!


________________________________
From: Chris Niles <chris.niles.crestron@...>
To: Crestron-yahoogroups. com <Crestron@...>
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 8:38:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Crestron] Streaming Radio Question


Have you tried listening with WireShark to figure bout the URL that the
Flash player is calling?

Chris
On Jun 9, 2013 11:59 PM, "joehostyn" <joehostyn@...> wrote:

**


I'm trying to figure out a simple fix for what should be a simple problem.
I have a client that would like local talk radio in several of their houses
that would normally be available on AM radio. At one point it was available
on the FM stream from the local cable company, but was killed two years ago
when they freed up the bandwidth for other services. I switch to MP3
streams on their Request Media servers.

Sometime over the last 7 months the radio stations seemed to have killed
all their MP3 support and now are only Flash. I can get it on Tune-In (a
streaming site).

It appears my options to stick with request are to trade in the 4.x series
servers for something that supports their new OS at a fairly heft expense
(3k plus for each server). If I do I can then get at if from Tune-In and
not have to reprogram much.

I was also thinking about using something like Roku which supports
Tune-In, but I'm not sure if I can do it easily.

If there are any Roku experts out here, I've installed a Roku box to test,
including one of the modules posted here. I can add the tune-in app and
create an account plus put the stations in my favourites. What I can see is
how I can easily select and play the favorite stations without using the
video interface. Is there a way to make each station as simple as a single
touch panel button press?

Does anyone have a simpler streaming radio solution for these types of
stations? Apple TV and airplay may be a possibility but it seems a bit
kludgy.

Also note, they have no AM reception for the area the stations are in.

?

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Re: OT: CAT5-powered speakers

Heath Volmer
 

I agree that it needs to be done right, unfortunately this house was built in a manner that may resist any or all attempts at retrofit wiring. I happened to be there on a day that the contractors were there looking at how to install a non-central AC system and heard one of the contractors say "this is the only dropped ceiling in the whole house" - pointing at a four-foot section of hallway ;-(

I can't use crap. I see that Channel Vision has an ABUS amp that it locally powered. Might be an option........ Stupid "wire-saving" products. I've never understood why dealers skimp on these style of houses.




On Jun 10, 2013, at 10:38 AM, Eric Williams <ewilliams0305@...> wrote:

ATON or an abus system, but it sucks... All 8 watts, boo. You can use voltage to trigger them on and off. The newer russound version of a abuss may have a commport you can use to adjust volume and source in each room. Personally I would sell some wiring$$$ we all want to make our clients happy but its our responsibility to do the Job correctly especially when taking over a system that is probably a disaster. They will be happier long term.

-----Original Message-----
From: "Heath Volmer" <hvolmer@...>
Sent: ?6/?10/?2013 12:09 PM
To: "Crestron@... com" <Crestron@...>
Subject: [Crestron] OT: CAT5-powered speakers

I have a take-over client who has a Colorado VNet system that is misbehaving. Given their history of going out of business, he's not sure that he wants to repair it. I have since discovered that the various speakers around the house are powered by the system's touchpanels. Dandy! I'm thinking of replacing the system with some iPads or ?? but I'm hung up on the speakers. The original company did not home run any speaker cable.

Does anyone know of a Cat-based system that might work in a Crestron environment? (And no, not a RMC-200!) Even stashing something in the wall behind the iPads *might* be acceptable...

Heath

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Re: Another samsung ex-link question

 

Jeremy

Was that at 3 series job?

--- In Crestron@..., Jeremy Weatherford <jweather@...> wrote:

FYI, we ran across a TV last week (UN46ES7500F) that would only respond to
"off" commands from a 1-way 232 port, not from a full COM port. Maybe
EX-Link expects TTL levels and gets overdriven by standard 232? No idea,
this is the first time I've seen this, but then we usually have these on
1-way 232 ports anyway...
Re: OT: CAT5-powered speakers

Eric Williams
 

ATON or an abus system, but it sucks... All 8 watts, boo. You can use voltage to trigger them on and off. The newer russound version of a abuss may have a commport you can use to adjust volume and source in each room. Personally I would sell some wiring$$$ we all want to make our clients happy but its our responsibility to do the Job correctly especially when taking over a system that is probably a disaster. They will be happier long term.

-----Original Message-----
From: "Heath Volmer" <hvolmer@...>
Sent: ?6/?10/?2013 12:09 PM
To: "Crestron@... com" <Crestron@...>
Subject: [Crestron] OT: CAT5-powered speakers


I have a take-over client who has a Colorado VNet system that is misbehaving. Given their history of going out of business, he's not sure that he wants to repair it. I have since discovered that the various speakers around the house are powered by the system's touchpanels. Dandy! I'm thinking of replacing the system with some iPads or ?? but I'm hung up on the speakers. The original company did not home run any speaker cable.

Does anyone know of a Cat-based system that might work in a Crestron environment? (And no, not a RMC-200!) Even stashing something in the wall behind the iPads *might* be acceptable...

Heath


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Re: New iOS App?

Eric Williams
 

You should be able to use a space as long as you put the project name into quotes or &#92;x20

-----Original Message-----
From: "appelguy123" <appelguy@...>
Sent: ?6/?10/?2013 11:26 AM
To: "Crestron@..." <Crestron@...>
Subject: [Crestron] Re: New iOS App?


Well, it looks like the hangup was due to the space in the filename. Once I changed the VT file name to just "test" it seems to work fine.

I have the App connected with a media player extender, connected to an Autonomic Controls MMS2, and the scrolling speeds are the fastest that I have seen so far (blows the TSWs away).

Nice work, Crestron!

-Ryan

--- In Crestron@..., "appelguy123" <appelguy@...> wrote:

Has anyone actually gotten this to work? I'm about to call TB to see if I am doing something wrong, but I can't seem to get something basic to work (on the pro version.)

The loading screen says "Loading Theme" for about 10 minutes, then changes to "Sending update request to control system" and then hangs, indefinitely (from what I can tell.)

I've loaded the panel file to the iPad with no luck, and have the same problem when I load to the processor. What gives?

All firmware updates are in place, all IP IDs are checked, correct app loaded, etc.

-Ryan

--- In Crestron@..., Eric Williams <ewilliams0305@> wrote:

Sweet!

-----Original Message-----
From: "John Pavlik" <jpavlik@>
Sent: ???6/???10/???2013 10:45 AM
To: "Crestron@..." <Crestron@...>
Subject: RE: [Crestron] Re: New iOS App?


Leave the server blank and its peer to peer like the panels.


From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of Eric Williams
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 10:36 AM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: RE: [Crestron] Re: New iOS App?



I noticed under the VoIP setup there is no option for peer to peer. Does that mean the ios devices will require a sip server for RAVA?

-----Original Message-----
From: "John Pavlik" <jpavlik@<mailto:jpavlik%40crestron.com>>
Sent: ???6/???10/???2013 9:47 AM
To: "<Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>>" <Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>>
Subject: Re: [Crestron] Re: New iOS App?

Make sure to use the new symbol. Communications are totally different from the old app. Much more efficient. You need to put the project name in the subslot.

On Jun 8, 2013, at 6:36 PM, "local94engineer" <petergorry@<mailto:petergorry%40verizon.net><mailto:petergorry@<mailto:petergorry%40verizon.net>>> wrote:

I'm guessing that because the new app does not have a field for a "passcode" then it should be removed from the program and then it should connect to the processor.

--- In Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>, John Pavlik <jpavlik@<mailto:jpavlik@>> wrote:

Don't feel bad for me. I have never learned anything from people telling me only good things. The more you tell me the better things will get.

On the pricing, the Microsoft comparison is a good one. They were dumbfounded when I told them we didn't charge for firmware updates or development tools! I do wish we had better options to get a version out to those of you actually developing the interfaces but the App Store can be quite limiting.



On Jun 7, 2013, at 4:31 PM, "Eric Williams" <ewilliams0305@<mailto:ewilliams0305@<mailto:ewilliams0305@%3cmailto:ewilliams0305@>>> wrote:



I feel bad for John... Great job John, between the guys on labs and here, I'm sure you feel appreciated. Anyway... Great job!

-----Original Message-----
From: "Andrew Yalowitz" <andrewy@<mailto:andrewy%40stagesound.com<>>>
Sent: ??6/??7/??2013 4:15 PM
To: "Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com<>>" <Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com><mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com<>>>
Subject: RE: [Crestron] Re: New iOS App?

I agree, though I wish the app was universal iPhone/iPad, instead of a separate one for each.








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Re: New VTPro Won't 'Save As' with a new name, anyone?? - more to it

stainbow1
 

So, I figured out it wouldn't allow me to save it out as a Free iPAd if I programmed it originally as a pay iPad.

Also, the save button is always greyed out now. When I right click and save, it acts like it's doing it, but not till I close a VTPro page, does it actually save the project (because it asks again)

Then of course when I go to open it, it's all gone, the project doesn't exist at all.

(sigh) anyone?

Restarting PC now to see if that helps.

Stephen D.

--- In Crestron@..., "stainbow1" <stainbow1@...> wrote:

Hey Guys, I just upgraded to the new VTPro, and when I save as an existing program, it creates a new project, but there is absolutely nothing in it, no pages or anything. And when I close that, and try to open it, it doesn't exists.

Any ideas? Do I need a new DB or something. I also downloaded the latest Databases from online today as well.


Pretty annoying as I'm trying to get some work done here.


Thanks for any advise.
Stephen D.
New VTPro Won't 'Save As' with a new name, anyone??

stainbow1
 

Hey Guys, I just upgraded to the new VTPro, and when I save as an existing program, it creates a new project, but there is absolutely nothing in it, no pages or anything. And when I close that, and try to open it, it doesn't exists.

Any ideas? Do I need a new DB or something. I also downloaded the latest Databases from online today as well.


Pretty annoying as I'm trying to get some work done here.


Thanks for any advise.
Stephen D.
OT: CAT5-powered speakers

Heath Volmer
 

I have a take-over client who has a Colorado VNet system that is misbehaving. Given their history of going out of business, he's not sure that he wants to repair it. I have since discovered that the various speakers around the house are powered by the system's touchpanels. Dandy! I'm thinking of replacing the system with some iPads or ?? but I'm hung up on the speakers. The original company did not home run any speaker cable.

Does anyone know of a Cat-based system that might work in a Crestron environment? (And no, not a RMC-200!) Even stashing something in the wall behind the iPads *might* be acceptable...

Heath
Re: The extended ASCII codes in 3-series

Andy A
 

So if I am reading correctly...you have been able to get a 3-series processor to send an email message? Ever since I upgraded firmware to the latest available (as of a week or so ago) my email has been non-existent. Any help/guidance you could provide would be greatly appreciated!

--- In Crestron@..., Kool-Aid Drinker <herald@...> wrote:

If you look at the full headers or "source" of a 2-series email,
you'll see a Content-type: header with a specific char set.

Compare 3-series.

With no char set designated, a 3-series email is at the mercy of email
reading program, OS internationalization, etc. Results WILL vary.

Complain to True Blue. As the basis of the email sender, they used a
free C# library that was known to have issues, but didn't apply any of
the readily available fixes.

On Sun, 9 Jun 2013 18:12:02 +0200, "kabza" <kabzaa@...> wrote:

It is not for panel. It is for -e-mail message. Here is my simpl+ code that
is working well in 2-series but in 3-series degree sign is not show.



message$ = date(1)+" "+time()+" - Temperature is "+ Temp$ + " &#92;xB0C";



Here is e-mail message:



06/09/2013 17:22:15 - Temperature is 35.0 ?C



Regards



From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf
Of Lincoln King-Cliby
Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2013 5:55 PM
To: 'Crestron@...'
Subject: RE: [Crestron] The extended ASCII codes in 3-series





What panel are you using?

It's likely not a control system issue, but a panel issue.

If it's a TSW... this was working early on, broken in firmware and reported
quite a while ago, and AFAIK still not fixed (though it's been a few weeks
since I've had time to play with it)

Lincoln
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