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Helpful hints to not get flamed
I've seen some threads getting rather testy lately and I thought I would
post some helpful hints to help others avoid feeling internet wrath. 1. Do NOT post with questions or requests for help on tests. The tests mean something. They are an indication of your skills. They are supposed to be a measurable baseline that we ALL get judged upon. If a person gets a certification and is undeserving of it, it tarnishes the reputation of the certification that the rest of us have. Your certification does not just apply to programming ability, it also has underlying implications that you can search for information (see item 2), understand protocols, build your own modules and IR drivers, etc... 2. Be more resourceful. There is a wealth of knowledge to be had. Search engines do a lovely job trying help you find that information. If you're looking for an IR driver, do the following BEFORE posting a "Does anyone have this?" a. Look in the Crestron DB b. Try drivers for other models of similar devices. Chances are, the codes are similar. c. Search the files here (hint, your browsers search feature works really well for this). d. Search remote central. Even if you have to download pronto software and grab hex codes and then dump them into DEAL, you should be doing this before asking if anyone has a driver. e. Look at other companies IR databases. There's a tool out there somewhere that can convert AMX drivers to Crestron (Vert?). Look at RTI. You can pull hex codes out of their IR database and put them into DEAL. Go through every available resource you know. Similarly, the same effort should go into finding ethernet and serial protocols. There are a TON of modules here and if you spend more than 30 minutes with any search engine, you'll probably get close to what you're looking for. Try multiple search engines, they don't always pull the same results. Try different search terms, get creative. Other options available include picking up the phone and calling support to find that information. Remember, when members of the group post responses for peoples questions, they are actively taking time out of their days to offer assistance. Don't waste that time if you can do some searching on your own. As a bonus, you'll be a better programmer for honing your search skills more. 3. Start your own archive for this groups content. I can't recommend this enough. Gmail works really well, the storage is free and you have a better (IMHO) search engine than the one that yahoo uses for the groups. Create a new account and change your email preferences for the group so you get each message as a single email. If you already have gmail, just use an incoming filter to put everything in a label and skip your inbox. Sure, you'll need to use the web interface to find information older than your archives start date, but it's better than nothing. 4. Remember that tone is a tricky thing when reading and writing messages. Do NOT post in all caps. It is the internet equivalent of shouting (how I wish the caps lock key were never invented). If someone prefaces their post with, "Don't take this the wrong way" or "Not to be rude" chances are, they know what they are saying is going to be difficult to swallow. It doesn't mean that they are instantly a jerk for saying what they did. It's the internet, thick skin required. My $0.02 -Nathan |
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Re: Strange subpage / join number problem
Yep, reading comprehension fail on my part for not seeing the V24/DGE2 callout in the OP.
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The next question is to look at what's going on in the system that's different between the two pages and that zone, particularly look for anything generating a high number of transitions -- the behavior described is also possible if the processor is under excessive load, such as a polling loop going wild, etc. Lincoln -----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of xylantech Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 11:13 PM To: Crestron@... Subject: [Crestron] Re: Strange subpage / join number problem It's a V24/DG2E on hardwired Ethernet. The Volume Up/Down buttons are steered to the various rooms by an "Adagio (AES) Large TP Room GUI Interface v2.4" module. All other rooms act OK on the same buttons. How can the same button work on 5 rooms, but not on the sixth? The page doesn't change when you select a different room. The buttons are 'steered' to the next room via the GUI module. The only thing that changes on the TP page is some indirect text that tells you what room you're controlling. If you try to control the room (using the same button on the same subpage) from a different page (the Room Setup page vs the Main page), it works OK. If you control the volume directly on the AES, it works OK. --- In Crestron@..., trayschaeffer <trayschaeffer@...> wrote:
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Re: Crestron + calendar scheduler
Chip
No... Or at least not yet - at least not in the sense that I believe you're asking - did someone tell you otherwise?
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Re: Strange subpage / join number problem
It's a V24/DG2E on hardwired Ethernet.
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The Volume Up/Down buttons are steered to the various rooms by an "Adagio (AES) Large TP Room GUI Interface v2.4" module. All other rooms act OK on the same buttons. How can the same button work on 5 rooms, but not on the sixth? The page doesn't change when you select a different room. The buttons are 'steered' to the next room via the GUI module. The only thing that changes on the TP page is some indirect text that tells you what room you're controlling. If you try to control the room (using the same button on the same subpage) from a different page (the Room Setup page vs the Main page), it works OK. If you control the volume directly on the AES, it works OK. --- In Crestron@..., trayschaeffer <trayschaeffer@...> wrote:
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Re: Strange subpage / join number problem
@OP
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Try sampling the analog going *back* to the panel. This has solved runaway volume issues several times for me. Here is one way to do that: In the simpl program, take the analog feedback signal and run it to a Serial one shot. Also connect that same analog to the input side of Analog Sample symbol. Connect Serial one shot output to trig of an OSC with hi/lo times of about a tenth of a second. OSC out is the enable for analog sample symbol. Sample out is now the feedback for the touch panel. Tray Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note?, an AT&T LTE smartphoneLincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@...> wrote: What type of panel & what communication method (Infinet EX, WiFi, Cresnet, Wired Ethernet)? It sounds like intermittent communication between the panel and the processor, so that the processor sees the "press" but the receipt/processing of the "release" is delayed. Historically, panels have only sent a "Press" (Low-to-High) and "Release" (High-to-low) signal to the processor (e.g. "Button 301 Is Pressed", "Button 301 is Released" this lead to some "fun", especially on WiFi, where if the panel got out of range a ramp would continue until it hit the limit. Newer panels cope with this by sending the press periodically as long as the button is held and the gateway knows if it doesn't see the press within that period of time it should do the "release" itself -- but this doesn't solve the problem of "overshooting", it just keeps you from overshooting so far that you blow up gear [in theory] Lincoln -- Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Silver) ControlWorks Consulting, LLC Crestron Services Provider -----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of xylantech Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 7:03 PM To: Crestron@... Subject: [Crestron] Strange subpage / join number problem I have a project that is using an AV2, an AES, iServer, V24/DGE2 and a ton of lighting stuff. The initial program was written in SB (never again), but due to a huge number of problems SB generated, I had to repair it in SIMPL. I've got everything working except for one vexing issue. The system has 6 audio zones on the AES. On one of the zones (Family Room) the volume controls act weirdly. If you try to lower the volume even slightly, it will ramp down to about 35%, then suddenly drop to zero. When you try to turn it back up, it will ramp back up to about 35% by itself. If you try to increase the volume again, it will jump up to about 75%. The startup volume level is set to 45%, so it's not recalling that. All the various rooms use the same volume buttons (on the same Volume subpage), and they all use the same inputs on the same Adagio module in SIMPL. Just to confuse things a bit more, if you go to the Room Setup page (which has the same Volume Subpage on it), the same volume buttons work normally in the Family Room. Any ideas? How is this even possible? ------------------------------------ Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers. A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the Database area. Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Re: Strange subpage / join number problem
What type of panel & what communication method (Infinet EX, WiFi, Cresnet, Wired Ethernet)?
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It sounds like intermittent communication between the panel and the processor, so that the processor sees the "press" but the receipt/processing of the "release" is delayed. Historically, panels have only sent a "Press" (Low-to-High) and "Release" (High-to-low) signal to the processor (e.g. "Button 301 Is Pressed", "Button 301 is Released" this lead to some "fun", especially on WiFi, where if the panel got out of range a ramp would continue until it hit the limit. Newer panels cope with this by sending the press periodically as long as the button is held and the gateway knows if it doesn't see the press within that period of time it should do the "release" itself -- but this doesn't solve the problem of "overshooting", it just keeps you from overshooting so far that you blow up gear [in theory] Lincoln -- Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Silver) ControlWorks Consulting, LLC Crestron Services Provider -----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of xylantech Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 7:03 PM To: Crestron@... Subject: [Crestron] Strange subpage / join number problem I have a project that is using an AV2, an AES, iServer, V24/DGE2 and a ton of lighting stuff. The initial program was written in SB (never again), but due to a huge number of problems SB generated, I had to repair it in SIMPL. I've got everything working except for one vexing issue. The system has 6 audio zones on the AES. On one of the zones (Family Room) the volume controls act weirdly. If you try to lower the volume even slightly, it will ramp down to about 35%, then suddenly drop to zero. When you try to turn it back up, it will ramp back up to about 35% by itself. If you try to increase the volume again, it will jump up to about 75%. The startup volume level is set to 45%, so it's not recalling that. All the various rooms use the same volume buttons (on the same Volume subpage), and they all use the same inputs on the same Adagio module in SIMPL. Just to confuse things a bit more, if you go to the Room Setup page (which has the same Volume Subpage on it), the same volume buttons work normally in the Family Room. Any ideas? How is this even possible? ------------------------------------ Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers. A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the Database area. Yahoo! Groups Links |
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Strange subpage / join number problem
I have a project that is using an AV2, an AES, iServer, V24/DGE2 and a ton of lighting stuff. The initial program was written in SB (never again), but due to a huge number of problems SB generated, I had to repair it in SIMPL.
I've got everything working except for one vexing issue. The system has 6 audio zones on the AES. On one of the zones (Family Room) the volume controls act weirdly. If you try to lower the volume even slightly, it will ramp down to about 35%, then suddenly drop to zero. When you try to turn it back up, it will ramp back up to about 35% by itself. If you try to increase the volume again, it will jump up to about 75%. The startup volume level is set to 45%, so it's not recalling that. All the various rooms use the same volume buttons (on the same Volume subpage), and they all use the same inputs on the same Adagio module in SIMPL. Just to confuse things a bit more, if you go to the Room Setup page (which has the same Volume Subpage on it), the same volume buttons work normally in the Family Room. Any ideas? How is this even possible? |
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Re: Crestron + calendar scheduler
3-Series does HTTPS without a problem, right?
RIGHT?!? On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 3:31 PM, kabza <kabzaa@...> wrote: ** [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Re: Crestron + calendar scheduler
kabza
Thanks fo reply.
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Maybe google calendar is too much complex, to design what i need. I need to make scheduler that works every monday, first and third week in the month, and must be editable. So, maybe you guys have some simple solution? Regards From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of Lincoln King-Cliby Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 8:51 PM To: 'Crestron@...' Subject: RE: [Crestron] Re: Crestron + calendar scheduler Yeah, the problem with that -- without a PC playing man in the middle -- is the ... If you have an Exchange (or Lotu sNotes or...) server at your disposal you can use FusionRV but that's probably a bigger investment than you want if you're only doing one room. -- Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Silver) ControlWorks Consulting, LLC Crestron Services Provider -----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Chris Niles Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 2:25 PM To: Crestron-yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [Crestron] Re: Crestron + calendar scheduler If you just wanted to parse out information, you can always scrape the HTML view: [emailadddress]%40gmail.com<https: //www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=[emailadddress]%40gmail.com&ctz=America/ Chicago> or RSS/XML [emailaddress]%40gmail.com/public/basi c On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Chip <cfm@... <mailto:cfm%40vca.com> > wrote: **"kabza" <kabzaa@...> wrote:
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Re: Crestron + calendar scheduler
Kool-Aid Drinker
Google has .NET code examples -- it shouldn't be too horrible to port
to S#. Assuming S# ever gets released. And assuming it doesn't end up as crippled and broken as S+. On Sun, 19 May 2013 14:51:10 -0400, Lincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@...> wrote: Yeah, the problem with that -- without a PC playing man in the middle -- is the ... |
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Re: Crestron + calendar scheduler
Yeah, the problem with that -- without a PC playing man in the middle -- is the ...
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If you have an Exchange (or Lotu sNotes or...) server at your disposal you can use FusionRV but that's probably a bigger investment than you want if you're only doing one room. -- Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Silver) ControlWorks Consulting, LLC Crestron Services Provider -----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of Chris Niles Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 2:25 PM To: Crestron-yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [Crestron] Re: Crestron + calendar scheduler If you just wanted to parse out information, you can always scrape the HTML view: [emailadddress]%40gmail.com<[emailadddress]%40gmail.com&ctz=America/Chicago> or RSS/XML [emailaddress]%40gmail.com/public/basic On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Chip <cfm@...> wrote: ** [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers. A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the Database area. Yahoo! Groups Links |
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Re: Crestron + calendar scheduler
If you just wanted to parse out information, you can always scrape the HTML
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view: [emailadddress]%40gmail.com<[emailadddress]%40gmail.com&ctz=America/Chicago> or RSS/XML [emailaddress]%40gmail.com/public/basic On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Chip <cfm@...> wrote:
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Re: Pretty Toolbox splash
I just opened toolbox this morning and noticed the splash does sit over my
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other windows. I never really noticed before. I guess it didn't bother me that much. Now that you've all pointed it out.... On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Chip <cfm@...> wrote:
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Re: Crestron + calendar scheduler
Chip
I haven't looked to see what type of security they use for this, but assuming it's something you can do without SSL, this should get you going in the right direction:
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Re: Pretty Toolbox splash
Chip
Release. I haven't had the luxury of being able to play with labs stuff for months. :(
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Re: Pretty Toolbox splash
Dustin
Hey Chip. When you say current version, are you referring to release or labs beta? I'm pretty sure I remember this painful, can be timed with a sundial toolbox version that is current release right now, but with the current beta / RC versions on labs they have greatly improved start time, either on purpose or by accident - we may never know. I just tested with 3 instances of simpl (1 in the act of compiling) and vt pro with a behemoth core3 project compiling as well. Startup time from click to visible workspace was 3.5 seconds. My pc is definitely above average but no super beast. (i7, 8gb, ssd primary).
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Re: VT-4000L Power
The VT-4000 was also rated at 24 watts, but will use a bit more on startup. Allow 30 watts and you should be fine.
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Re: Autonomic mms media player
Question, I just got a message from a customer that said that he is
getting a message "waiting for tcp/ip connrction" anyone seen this error before? I believe he is getting it from the iPad app. On May 18, 2013 7:04 AM, "Neil Dorin" <neildorin@...> wrote: ** [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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